THE 9/!! TV (and press) ARCHIVES
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Nice work, Simon.
Did anyone else notice the anchor mentioning the "weakening" of the structure during his conversation with Brandy? It was imperative that the soundbites were introduced well in advance of the "official" investigations.
Oh and what happened to Brandy's Mama's cough. Sounds like she recovered really quickly!!
Did anyone else notice the anchor mentioning the "weakening" of the structure during his conversation with Brandy? It was imperative that the soundbites were introduced well in advance of the "official" investigations.
Oh and what happened to Brandy's Mama's cough. Sounds like she recovered really quickly!!
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How does the caller Brandy Orange claim the smoke is blowing into her terrace when she is in Brooklyn [south-east of Manhattan] and the smoke is blowing south-westwards?...cough...cough...I've just seen my missus light up a ciggie outside...
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=wtc ... tedIndex=1
Edit: added url for image source
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Update re: the WNYWFOX5 archive affair
I have e-mailed Jeff (of the official TV archives) once again to ask him about the blanked out 43 minutes of their all-important first (58-min) part of the WNYWFOX5 morning broadcasts of 9/11.
Feel free to download this version of mine of the NOSE-OUT sequence - and see if you can find that blob:
http://www.septclues.com/NoseOutSEQUENCEwnywFOX5.mpg
If you take the time to compare the Archive version with my version - you will see that this can hardly be a matter of video resolution. The small fly-by choppers, for instance, are perfectly visible on my version. So have WNYWFOX5 gone to all this trouble - finally making public (some) of their 9/11 footage - only to insert "Flight175" into that wide shot? I don't know. What I do know, is that some dude has been bombarding me with a string of e-mails lately, urging me to look up that blob on the TV archives - and insisting that I should address the issue...
Surely, my e-mail 'stalker' will now return the favor...and address the NOSE-OUT issue itself? :
Update re: the WNYWFOX5 archive affair
I have e-mailed Jeff (of the official TV archives) once again to ask him about the blanked out 43 minutes of their all-important first (58-min) part of the WNYWFOX5 morning broadcasts of 9/11.
So you may ask: WHY did FOX's Dennis Swanson even bother to turn up at the 9/11 archives (as late as August 2011!) to give them a truncated version of their horrendous/blooper-packed WNYW broadcasts? Please keep in mind that Swanson's official morning footage goes blank after only 15 minutes - yet it includes the infamous NOSE-OUT shot. Now, you may remember that one of my points in September Clues was that no plane was visible in the wide shot, just before the three zoom-in motions preceding the NOSE-OUT disaster. You may also recall that Anthony Lawson (maker of "September Clues Busted") later came up with a never-seen-before-version of the wide shot in which a tiny blob ("Flight 175", no doubt! ) was visible. Well, this blob (which is TOTALLY ABSENT in all of the four clips I've collected over the years of the NOSE-OUT sequence), is now also visible in the official "Dennis Swanson version" recently uploaded on the TV archives...Dear Jeff,
While wishing you a Happy New Year, I am sending you a video analysis of mine I released yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEVO34
I am sure you realize that if, as you say,"that's how it was given to us" (the WNYW FOX5 9/11 footage), the question is: WHY did FOX's Dennis Swanson give you a truncated / blanked out version of their very own 9/11 footage? What exactly is going on here? And what does this say about your 9/11 TV archives credibility?
Thanks for a kind reply.
Simon Shack
Feel free to download this version of mine of the NOSE-OUT sequence - and see if you can find that blob:
http://www.septclues.com/NoseOutSEQUENCEwnywFOX5.mpg
If you take the time to compare the Archive version with my version - you will see that this can hardly be a matter of video resolution. The small fly-by choppers, for instance, are perfectly visible on my version. So have WNYWFOX5 gone to all this trouble - finally making public (some) of their 9/11 footage - only to insert "Flight175" into that wide shot? I don't know. What I do know, is that some dude has been bombarding me with a string of e-mails lately, urging me to look up that blob on the TV archives - and insisting that I should address the issue...
Surely, my e-mail 'stalker' will now return the favor...and address the NOSE-OUT issue itself? :
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Simon - the chopper screenshot above with the blob; How many seconds from impact is that allegedly taken?
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Simon, I'm finding it very difficult to perfectly line up the frames of your version and the 9/11 version of the nose-out shots. Do you have any difficulty doing this with the other versions available to you? Are we looking at a re-render with slightly different frames? Especially check the fade in after the fade to black that interrupts the nose-out.
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Approx 8 seconds from impact, Smokey.SmokingGunII wrote:Simon - the chopper screenshot above with the blob; How many seconds from impact is that allegedly taken?
Compare with...
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Right Buddy, Nothing on fox 5 or fox 11 Los Angeles)
Can Ace baker send you $100, 000 now?
Can Ace baker send you $100, 000 now?
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Hi Simon,
In response to your PM'd question, if you're using firefox you could try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... oadhelper/. It doesn't work everywhere, but does generally work on the archive with the caveat that you need to download entire videos from the start.
Good luck with your comparison. What follows is the best I could come up with. I apologize in advance if things don't quite line up. The clip you linked to (and others available on the web) have a black border even though the overall resolution is the same as the archive footage. In practice that means the image portion of the frames has a lower resolution than the archive footage.
There are some differences between the two sets of video that could be attributed to differences in resolution as illustrated below. The 9/11 archive footage is of a considerably higher resolution so objects in the distance appear to have greater detail, or in the case of the helicopter image, appear clearer for longer. At the same time, the first frame of the fade following the fade to black appears to differ between the version you've linked to and the archive footage and I'm not sure what could account for that other than a re-render of the footage. Does anyone else have any theories?
In response to your PM'd question, if you're using firefox you could try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... oadhelper/. It doesn't work everywhere, but does generally work on the archive with the caveat that you need to download entire videos from the start.
Good luck with your comparison. What follows is the best I could come up with. I apologize in advance if things don't quite line up. The clip you linked to (and others available on the web) have a black border even though the overall resolution is the same as the archive footage. In practice that means the image portion of the frames has a lower resolution than the archive footage.
There are some differences between the two sets of video that could be attributed to differences in resolution as illustrated below. The 9/11 archive footage is of a considerably higher resolution so objects in the distance appear to have greater detail, or in the case of the helicopter image, appear clearer for longer. At the same time, the first frame of the fade following the fade to black appears to differ between the version you've linked to and the archive footage and I'm not sure what could account for that other than a re-render of the footage. Does anyone else have any theories?
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnkljzg-9c
LOL
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Isn't the perspective if the towers way off in this wide shot? Did they really loom like that over the rest of the buildings? In the tight shots the heights look much more similar.Equinox wrote:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnkljzg-9c
LOL
Also, do smoke clouds hang together for miles? That's a lot of smoke....
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I’ve been up that way... Here is a shot from my crappy $200 Sony handy cam I got in my Xmass stocking.Farcevalue wrote:Isn't the perspective if the towers way off in this wide shot? Did they really loom like that over the rest of the buildings? In the tight shots the heights look much more similar.Equinox wrote:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnkljzg-9c
LOL
Also, do smoke clouds hang together for miles? That's a lot of smoke....
Here is a shot from a professional camera man showing the twin towers in all her color glory,
AND HERE IS WHAT FOX NEWS SHOWED US ON 9/11 FOLKS…
GAME OVER – BUSTED. Get the word out.
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Oh I had a closer look at the "footage". And I kept my eyes on the chopper. On the last zoom in, the chopper magically disappears. If it would be farer away, then it should fade out, but it just vanished suddenly. And then keep your eyes on the antenna, which starts to shrink.... what software did they use for shot?
Oh and compare the text from the "high res" footage to the "low res" footage. It does not match pixel exact (the text is not the same size!). So this has to be rendered independent from each others! So this is not 100% the same footage, it's made separately from the other.
Oh and compare the text from the "high res" footage to the "low res" footage. It does not match pixel exact (the text is not the same size!). So this has to be rendered independent from each others! So this is not 100% the same footage, it's made separately from the other.
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FOX FLOP ARCHIVED.simonshack wrote:*
My new video about the whole WNYW FOX5 affair:
FOX FLOP
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEVO34
Enjoy!
Fox Flop.
Features footage from –The very first all important 58 minute archive clip, shows the initial 15 minutes of the broadcast whereafter which it goes blank for 43 minutes!
Verify this for yourself,
Tinyurl.com/wnywfoxclip1
So just what 9/11 Imagery does Rupert Murdoch not want us too see?
WNYW News Live 9/11- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzqh8Ag
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzqh8Ag
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @2.48mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=168s
Located in fox archives-
Helicopter Skid_1 @19.31 mins- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=1171s
Helicopter Skid_2 @25.09 mins - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=1509s
Helicopter Skid_3 @25.55 mins - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=1555s
Extra
@ 21.43 mins- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=1302s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @3.08mins
Location in Fox Flop- - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=188s
Located in fox archives-
Rendering glitch_1
@22.26 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=1346s
Rendering glitch_ 2
@23.28- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzq ... ge#t=1406s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @5.19mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=318s
Located in fox archives-
Computer Chopper. –
@55.49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=3349s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @5.46mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=345s
Located in fox archives-
Dave Price pretending to fetch the news
@ 56.11- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=3371s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @7.04mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=424s
Located in fox archives-
Pentagon Smoke –
@57.29- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=3449s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @7.25mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=445s
Located in fox archives-
Yellow animation of WTC1 collapse.
@11.49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=4309s
Fox Flop (by simonshack) – @9.11mins
Location in Fox Flop- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEV ... age#t=551s
Located in fox archives-
Staged managed drama street scenes out of a Hollywood movie set.
@12.53- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=4373s
Located in fox archives-
Brandy Orange the fake eye witness
@14.08mins- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=4448s
Located in fox archives-
Joe Clines.
@1.57.50 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ag#t=7072s
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Just realised, Joe Clines = Joke Lines
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pov603 wrote: Just realised, Joe Clines = Joke Lines