Q & A with Simon Shack
(and any forum members willing to help out!)
I have decided to open this thread dedicated to answering the questions I regularly receive from non-members outside of the forum, be it via e-mail or other sources. For many years now, I have diligently responded to countless questions privately. Naturally, many of these questions turn out to be similar in substance, so I hope this thread will be helpful to clarify the most frequently asked questions submitted by newcomers to our research - and also relieve me a little from this pretty time-consuming burden!
So, the other day, "dg" e-mailed me the following questions - or the two "puzzles", as he calls them :
I have two puzzles, both somewhat related.
The first is the planes and the passengers. Assuming the "no casualties" scenario where there are no planes and nobody in the buildings: did these planes leave their destination as the flights they were claimed to be? If not, wouldn't there be people (right down to baggage handlers) at the airport fully aware that no "flight 93" (or the other flights) actually left their airport? If there were actual flights - assuming they could be diverted and landed somewhere - who was on them? An empty plane would be noticed and remembered, too, even if all the documentation could be faked. My thinking is that the planes had to have left from their airports, and they had to have passengers. The manifest maybe could be swapped out for a fake somehow, but there would be missing people. Doesn't vicsims just create an unnecessary complication for the plotters? If you can divert the plane and land it somewhere and do away with the passengers, why bother with vicsims, when you have real victims at your disposal?
Dear dg, I'll take your last question first - and revert it: Why bother with real victims when you have at your disposal the entire clout of the media and the government bureaucracy to make up fake identities? Where is the logic in murdering scores of people - with the entailing aggravation of many inquiring families launching hundreds of investigations and throwing lawsuits at you? For your information, there has been only one single individual who has - reportedly - done just that. Her name is Ellen Mariani. Strangely enough, her most (in)famous/memorable statement at the time was: "I could not find a single other family who lost a relative on those planes." As it is, her lawyer Philip J. Berg, turns out to be a farcical character who is either totally inept in his profession or, more likely, just another little cog in the colossal 9/11 deception machine:
PHILIP J. BERG and ELLEN MARIANI
As to your assumption that the four planes existed and took off from any airport that day, it is for you to provide us with any such evidence - since the relevant authorities (FAA, NTSB, NARA et al) appear quite unable to issue such information - and that is not for any lack of trying on our part (or indeed, by several other enterprising parties). You may read here the kafkian tale of our forum administrator Hoi Polloi's valiant and patient - yet vain FOIA efforts to retrieve any sort of relevant official paperwork documenting the existence of these alleged 4 flights and passengers.
dg wrote:The second is the buildings.
Assuming the no casualties scenario, there could not have been anyone in the buildings. They would have to be closed that day. Wouldn't thousands of New Yorkers recall this? People met there, there were daycares and coffee shops and so on in the building, and casual visitors such as tourists. Not to mention that "survivors" (of which there would be tens of thousands) would *universally* recall having been told not to come to work that day. That would include those employed not just by firms renting space in the WTC, but WTC employees themselves, security guards and cleaners and elevator mechanics and all of that. Beyond a handful of accounts (and none from WTC employees), I am unaware of any testimony of this sort.
Again, I'll address your last sentence first: if you are unaware of any testimony of the sort, are you aware of any testimonies to the contrary? Well, you may have heard tales like that of Willy "BOOM" Rodriguez, the alleged "WTC janitor" who heard bombs going off in the basement. See, we now know that Willy is no janitor - but a professional magician/con-man and former pupil of "debunker extraordinaire" James Randi, who launched his infamous JREF website (dedicated to combat 'conspiracy theories') precisely on September 12, 2001. Besides, Willy "BOOM", who keeps touring the world, endlessly recounting his tall tale to large audiences (to uphold the all-important myth that there were actually people inside the WTC that day), is also a 'client' of the aforementioned attorney-clown, Philip J. Berg:
WILLY "BOOM" RODRIGUEZ & PHILIP J. BERG
https://sites.google.com/site/911storie ... s.everyone
What amazing coincidences, huh? In any case, the WTC towers were totally emptied of their historical tenants back in 1993 (with "350 bombed-out trade center tenants being moved into abundant vacant office space nearby") - as documented by Eric Darton's book "DIVIDED WE STAND". I highly recommend you to read this old post of mine which may help you see how they pulled off the illusion that the towers were still fully occupied in 2001. The handful of post-1993 tenants who supposedly repopulated the towers were mostly banking firms such as Cantor Fitgerald, Morgan Stanley, Marsh Mc Lellan, etc - ALL of them fully complicit with the upcoming 9/11 hoax. As for the 'casual tourists' that you mention (of course the WTC rooftop remained a favorite tourist attraction after 1993), none of them would have been expected at the WTC on 9/11 at 8:46AM (as the mayhem started) for a very simple reason: the WTC rooftop only opened at 9:30AM:
So, as you can see, your key question "wouldn't thousands New Yorkers recall that the towers were closed that day" is moot. Btw, if you believe there were 50.000 people in there - and only 3000 died - shouldn't we have tens of thousands of 'lucky-survivor-testimonies' by now? Where are they?
And, indeed - where are the 9/11 victims?
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlkF9DlImI
For those who still believe anyone perished on 9/11, please take some time reading the relevant 'vicsim' research on this forum. There really should be no doubt, at this point, that 9/11 was nothing but a massive hoax. Murdering 3000 'Wall Street people' was never part of the demented plan.