Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

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Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby ElSushi on March 28th, 2013, 1:57 pm

I have been knowing the young and very talented French jazz saxophonist Guillaume Perret for a few years now, especially since he started his new band "Electric Epic", and I came across some 9/11 photographs (apparently film rolls) which he published on his CIA FB profile a while ago.
http://guillaume-perret.fr/?page_id=37#en
https://www.facebook.com/electricepic

Here are the photographs which he claims to have taken "probably" around 12pm on 9/11 around Manhattan.


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-1.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-3.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-4.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-5.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-6.jpg

http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-7.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-8.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-9.jpg


http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-2001-10.jpg

Now, I have asked G.Perret why most of the photographs he took on 9/11 are all set in black and white. I know him and his band are currently on tour in Istanbul but I hope to clear that issue very soon.

Here is the description of how he managed to take these photographs around Manhattan in this excerpt taken out of an interview which he did in French a while ago for a French media (http://www.francetv.fr)
http://www.francetv.fr/culturebox/guillaume-perret-itineraire-dun-enfant-du-sax-133881

September,11th
On the 11th of September 2001, around 5am in the morning, I was "standing" near the twin towers, exhausted and half awake in the metro after a long night of jam sessions… I wake up and I go taking some photographs. I made some breaks, I was a bit shaking, and in the end, the bright shiny "lines" coming out from the morning sky looked like flames…This was a few hours before the "crash". Then, I went sleeping , I was staying in a place quite far from there, in the Queen's. I wasn't there when the first crash occurred. I then came back on the spot around noon, I could manage to penetrate the area, I grabbed a small medical face mask and I then started taking lots of pictures, as I was walking in the ashes…the first question that came to my mind when I got to know what really happened was "Will I be jamming out tonight?"…I was totally disconnected from reality ! When such big events occurred, I normally stay calm at first, but then I started to get very emotional soon after.
I eventually went jamming out that evening, in Harlem. I was the only white guy, the atmosphere was rather strange...


I don't really know what to make of this. The sole ideal that he could manage to penetrate the Manhattan zone that day around noon is rather lame and highly suspicious in my opinion. Are these pictures even real ?
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby CTGal1011 on March 28th, 2013, 3:17 pm

The whole "I heart NY" thing on the car is just beyond staged. Who does that when they are running for their "lives"? No one. How did he sneak in there? Where are all of the other "sneakers"? All of these after the fact photos seem to have the same theme. No one else around. No witnesses, no personnel, nothing. Where are the police? Military? A single soul?
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby simonshack on March 28th, 2013, 3:47 pm

ElSushi wrote:I don't really know what to make of this. The sole ideal that he could manage to penetrate the Manhattan zone that day around noon is rather lame and highly suspicious in my opinion. Are these pictures even real ?

Elsushi,

The idea that he could freely roam around with a camera in that area at noon is odd, perhaps. But why shouldn't these photos be real?

THIS is what they tell us / or, in any case, suggest :

1- The area was still (90minutes after the WTC1 collapse) enveloped in thick smoke (compare with any controlled demolition job: the dust from crushed concrete settles much faster than that ). Instead, military-grade smoke obscurants would certainly linger in the air for hours : that's what they are made for.
2- Police officers were blocking the access roads to 'Ground Zero' (no surprise there!)
3- Lower Manhattan appears pretty much deserted - in spite of 'millions of people' working there... (and no surprise there either: it was evacuated at dawn!)
4- There were no "thousands of burned-out/crushed/flipped-over cars all around the area" - (as 'documented' by the bogus Judy Wood imagery - crafted by Joe Marengo). If that were the case, surely Guillaume would have snapped some pics of those spectacular wreckages?


Would you kindly ask Guillaume at what time of day he snapped this photo in the Times Square subway station - and whether any of those fliers we see on the walls depict 'missing 9/11 victims'?

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Anyways, I find it wonderful how NewYorkers just went on with their lives - and went club-jamming on that Tuesday night. All that jazz!
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby brianv on March 28th, 2013, 4:40 pm

Image

September Noon Sun? :rolleyes:

Is it normal for a B/W image to look like this under ELA?

http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 75b.228357
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby ElSushi on March 28th, 2013, 5:25 pm

Yes, Simon, I would tend to actually think that these pictures look real, and you can tell there were definitely printed out of a film roll.

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http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-101.jpg

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http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-131.jpg

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http://elsushidelamancha.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/guillaume-perret-11-septembre-111.jpg

I have sent an email to Guillaume in order to ask about the specific points you mentioned. I will update that info as soon as I hear from Guillaume.
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby brianv on March 28th, 2013, 6:24 pm

Were the identical scratches on

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and

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done to add realism?
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby MrSinclair on March 29th, 2013, 4:02 am

If that is him playing, who took the photo?
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby ElSushi on March 29th, 2013, 7:40 am

That could be the man who we see next to him standing on the top of the WTC.
Hard to tell.
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby brianv on March 29th, 2013, 3:10 pm

ElSushi wrote:That could be the man who we see next to him standing on the top of the WTC.
Hard to tell.


So who's taking the photograph of both of them on top of WTC?

Also hard to tell, but it appears that a head has been glued onto somebody else's body in the same shot!

And why is the thread titled Guillame Perret's OLD photos taken on 9/11?
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Re: Guillaume Perret's old photos taken on 9/11.

Postby teriyaki taryaki on July 30th, 2013, 7:01 am

Abirato Radio 07 / 28 / 2013 - ep52 - 9/11 amateur photographer Guillaume Perret

http://radio.abirato.info/wp-content/up ... rapher.mp3

We talk with ElSushi, Guillaume Perret, and Simon Shack about Guillaume’s photos which he says he took on 9/11/2001.

A great musician, by the way:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPE25npYhDI

A throwback to the glory days of jazz-rock fusion in the 1970's and bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Brand X, Jean-Luc Ponty, Eleventh House, Dixie Dregs, Arti + Mestieri, Goblin, etc.

http://guillaume-perret.fr/?page_id=37#en

https://www.facebook.com/electricepic
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