MORE "New" IMAGES (released in 2010!)
WPIX Dub 4 09 This file is a must view, it’s hard to imagine anyone faking this clip, even with an advanced simulator. It looks to real and the panning around the sky makes it that much harder to fake. I'll post this clip up so people can see if there is any fakery I've missed, or can explain the complexity in the images.
The Video still processing on Youtube, should be a min or two: Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiuH8kNgsxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiuH8kNgsxE
Well.. I guess none of both options. Relax dude... I am not here to try and debunk your video's. I am also not here to try ridicule you and your claims and I am certainly not here to try to spread disinfo or whatsoever.simonshack 4 Oct 4 2010, 08:25 PM wrote:Fakers 911,fakers911 4 Oct 4 2010, 05:38 PM wrote:
You actually can see "PAT" flying in the Rick Siegel video at about 2:52. It is coming from within the cloud. After that, at 3:00 exactly you can see it again for a fraction of a second. :)
I frankly hoped my point would be clear enough - but it seems you didn't get it. Yes, "PAT" is seen on both videos as the WTC2 collapse initiates flying north-eastwards. After which the WPIX video shows it making what looks like a 180? turn and RETURN on its path. On the SIEGEL video it simply vanishes. "PAT" is NOT seen flying back southwest as we see on the WPIX video. And no, it can not be attributed to any issue of "perspective" or "video compression". PAT is simply missing on the SIEGEL video when it should be clearly visible.
See, when I get comments such as yours, I sometimes wonder if my English is unclear or if the person responding is intentionally playing stupid. Which one is it?
I guess I had not read your post thoroughly enough. My bad...
Now I see what you mean and yes, the chopper is not there in the Rick Siegel video.
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How is this hard to fake again? A bigger model of the city? a larger composition? More Melinda fake conversations over intercom? Or the fact that the panning of the camera can spot another heli very far away without hesitation?MrBatsht @ Oct 4 2010, 09:07 PM wrote: WPIX Dub 4 09 This file is a must view, it’s hard to imagine anyone faking this clip, even with an advanced simulator. It looks to real and the panning around the sky makes it that much harder to fake. I'll post this clip up so people can see if there is any fakery I've missed, or can explain the complexity in the images.
You are so enthusiast about these videos it's like you made them yourself...
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It's amazing to me sometimes.
Simon makes it very easy to understand the concept of fake video. He points out that software must be used to compose those videos. It is evident that software has been used to produce all of them.
Then, more videos come out - that resemble the limited variety of video types seen on 9/11 which were deliberately and falsely labeled 'news broadcasts' or 'amateur video' and people decide - oh, oh wait.
THIS one must be real. RIGHT?
No no this one must be real ...
Oh maybe this one is real ...
No? No?
Well - well - maybe ... uh ... this one? Oh that looks the same as the others doesn't it?
Gee - where can I find some real looking video of 9/11? None of it seems to be around.
Duh.... :rolleyes:
Wake up folks. Quantity doesn't equal quality. It really is all fake.
Simon makes it very easy to understand the concept of fake video. He points out that software must be used to compose those videos. It is evident that software has been used to produce all of them.
Then, more videos come out - that resemble the limited variety of video types seen on 9/11 which were deliberately and falsely labeled 'news broadcasts' or 'amateur video' and people decide - oh, oh wait.
THIS one must be real. RIGHT?
No no this one must be real ...
Oh maybe this one is real ...
No? No?
Well - well - maybe ... uh ... this one? Oh that looks the same as the others doesn't it?
Gee - where can I find some real looking video of 9/11? None of it seems to be around.
Duh.... :rolleyes:
Wake up folks. Quantity doesn't equal quality. It really is all fake.
I would say that quantity doesn't equal credibility, something that the thick skinned miscreants don't understand. "Oh, how could all the hundreds upon hundreds of amateur footage be fake?" A pure pseudo argument, its not founded in any real logic.hoi.polloi 4 Oct 5 2010, 04:07 AM wrote: It's amazing to me sometimes.
Simon makes it very easy to understand the concept of fake video. He points out that software must be used to compose those videos. It is evident that software has been used to produce all of them.
Then, more videos come out - that resemble the limited variety of video types seen on 9/11 which were deliberately and falsely labeled 'news broadcasts' or 'amateur video' and people decide - oh, oh wait.
THIS one must be real. RIGHT?
No no this one must be real ...
Oh maybe this one is real ...
No? No?
Well - well - maybe ... uh ... this one? Oh that looks the same as the others doesn't it?
Gee - where can I find some real looking video of 9/11? None of it seems to be around.
Duh.... :rolleyes:
Wake up folks. Quantity doesn't equal quality. It really is all fake.
I just made a .gif file from a clip coming from the NIST Cumulus database. It is a small sequence from "Jim Huibregtse clip_6B.avi"
Check out the reflection in the window. Another wobbling building and impossible perspective. That smoke in the window.. what angle is it coming from? :D
Feel free to use it to your likings :)
EDIT: Oh.. and I noticed this:
Oh.. and here, the complete mechanism to lift stuff up the WTC 7 has vanished completely:
Check out the reflection in the window. Another wobbling building and impossible perspective. That smoke in the window.. what angle is it coming from? :D
Feel free to use it to your likings :)
EDIT: Oh.. and I noticed this:
Oh.. and here, the complete mechanism to lift stuff up the WTC 7 has vanished completely:
They had 9 years to do it right this time. Probably nice inserted background + plane, but I can't distinguish this one from a legit video.TruthNow @ Oct 5 2010, 11:14 PM wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/11september ... jvfwK_bQ-Y
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@Simon:
No, I don't see it ;)
Hehe.. these guys failed dramaticly. It only took me +/- 9 years to come to that conclusion. I was always looking in the wrong direction and discussing the WTC7 collapse over and over again. Now that's rather pointless to me!
EDIT: Anyway.. reflections is stuff people can and will argue about, but a dissapearing lift meganism at building WTC 7 will make them look foolish, if they try to argue that.
Hahaha.
Here you go, the video's made by the alleged Jim Huibregts.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FA4HB6Y4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RB5TM7Z5
No, I don't see it ;)
Hehe.. these guys failed dramaticly. It only took me +/- 9 years to come to that conclusion. I was always looking in the wrong direction and discussing the WTC7 collapse over and over again. Now that's rather pointless to me!
EDIT: Anyway.. reflections is stuff people can and will argue about, but a dissapearing lift meganism at building WTC 7 will make them look foolish, if they try to argue that.
Hahaha.
Here you go, the video's made by the alleged Jim Huibregts.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FA4HB6Y4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RB5TM7Z5
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Believe it or not: THESE WTC7 drawings were shown on TV on 9/11 !!!
And on a more recent History channel documentary:
It does NOT matter how many more 'realistic-looking' video they release year after year as their 'skills' and technology improve. They have failed. Period.
Believe it or not: THESE WTC7 drawings were shown on TV on 9/11 !!!
And on a more recent History channel documentary:
It does NOT matter how many more 'realistic-looking' video they release year after year as their 'skills' and technology improve. They have failed. Period.
http://www.septemberclues.org
It's the window washer thingy! Edit/ Which isn't in the photo immediately underneath!fakers911 4 Oct 5 2010, 11:12 PM wrote:Hahaha.. how painfull.simonshack 4 Oct 6 2010, 12:08 AM wrote: Believe it or not: THESE WTC7 drawings were shown on TV on 9/11 !
:lol:
Check the WTC 7 in my screenshot a few posts above this one.... what's up with the strange short black bar?
My main language isn't English, so I couldn't come up with a word for it. And yes.. it's gone completely.brianv 4 Oct 6 2010, 12:20 AM wrote:It's the window washer thingy! Edit/ Which isn't in the photo immediately underneath!fakers911 4 Oct 5 2010, 11:12 PM wrote:Hahaha.. how painfull.simonshack 4 Oct 6 2010, 12:08 AM wrote: Believe it or not: THESE WTC7 drawings were shown on TV on 9/11 !
:lol:
Check the WTC 7 in my screenshot a few posts above this one.... what's up with the strange short black bar?