Electronic Jamming on 9/11

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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby SmokingGunII on September 4th, 2012, 4:54 pm

For the moment and due to limited time, I am going to keep my powder dry and let RF hang himself upon his own petard. I'm surprised some members, who should really know better are even bothering to humour this stunning "hypothesis"!

Isn't it ironic that someone accuses another member of lack of evidence, fact, web links etc offers none of his own, yet continues to make outlandish and clearly erroneous comments such as "not one amateur photograph exists"! :lol:

RF - I haven't liked your attitude since you joined and like Nonho, your writing style is reminiscent of "Fred". I have asked you if you have had a previous account here (since you joined in May 2012) but seem to know so much about everything and everyone, but you have failed to respond.

Quite frankly, I have neither the time nor the compunction to respond to your trolling or dignify the codswallop of a theory you put forward.

I can't think of a better way to undermine the credibilty of this forum than suggesting the towers were demolished together in seconds whilst the NYC area was starved of media footage and then shown the "live" footage later in the day and not realising that they had witnessed two completely different events! Coincidentally, I should add, close to the anniversary, which normally results in increased traffic to this site.

Can you imagine new visitors coming to the site and reading this stuff? They would think we were all crazy.

Smokescreen, indeed.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby reichstag fireman on September 4th, 2012, 6:55 pm

SmokingGunII wrote:..suggesting the towers were demolished together in seconds


Please explain why you struggle with this idea? The footage of the collapses was completely faked. Accepted, yes? So how hard to suspect that the two towers were demolished together?

The alternative theory that you propose is very shaky. It requires the following to be true:

Throughout the whole of NY area - and from every vantage point of the WTC - not one cameraman captured a single shot of the burning and then collapsing towers? Not a single amateur photo, not a single frame of amateur footage was taken throughout that 102 minutes of the 'official' timeline of events?

That's just not a credible theory, as you must appreciate ;)

SmokingGunII wrote:NYC area was starved of media footage


Again, the media blackout in NYC is in part officially acknowledged. The terrestrial TV stations were disabled in NYC on 911. That's on the official record. Supposedly the (only?) broadcast TV antenna was on the WTC tower, and it was supposedly damaged in the "attack". Is that disputed?

So what other technologies does that leave for unwanted info to disseminate into NYC before the city is 'ready'? What other communication mediums need to be blocked?

All internet access for NYC can soon be disabled at a strategic network switch. But that leaves radio-based comms networks. For a (near) total media blackout across NYC on 911, radio comms also need to be disabled.

Here's a shortlist of media/comms systems to disable for a total media blackout. No doubt the list is incomplete. Please comment:

  • Landlines, fixed wire packet- and circuit-switched networks
  • Cellular phone network
  • Citizen Band Radio
  • Private Mobile Radio (PMR), shortwave amateur radio, etc.
  • "Satellite" TV
  • Terrestrial TV & radio (FM and AM)

Fixed wire networks, and cellular phone networks were discussed earlier.

CB radio - virtually obsolete, even in 2001. Preserve of a few truckers. 'Skip' generally not available. Small number of channels (40? ), Very small bandwidth (tens of kHz). If deemed necessary, CB reception could soon be jammed across NY area on 911.

PMR and shortwave - fairly rare - confined to security personnel, radio hams, etc. All relay-based PMR could be disabled at the mast. Local jamming required, too, perhaps.

"Satellite" TV - this is the medium that introduces the greatest weakpoint to the hypothesis. But is it? Subscription satellite TV services can be disabled at the head-end via the broadcaster's conditional access scheme. That allows service to be disabled on a house-by-house basis, or even an entire district. So reception of subscription satellite TV could easily be turned off across the whole of NY. While the rest of the east coast can still receive it.

According to Mickey, unencrypted Free-to-Air "satellite" TV (which can't be selectively blocked by region) was not common in the USA in 2001. And very few people even today have motorised reception dishes and specialist receivers to watch FTA. So that leaves vanishingly few "satellite" TV viewers who could break through a media blackout imposed on NY on 911.

Broadcast FM has relatively poor reception range so can be disabled by turning off local transmitters. (Unconvincingly) explained officially by that same supposed mast damage to the tower.

Broadcast AM - blackout more difficult - propagation by multi-hop ionospheric refraction is common. At times it is possible to receive a broadcast over thousands of miles. How many regular AM radio listeners are there, though? Local jamming required, too, perhaps, then?

SmokingGunII wrote:and then shown the "live" footage later in the day and not realising that they had witnessed two completely different events!


You have misunderstand the basic chronology and the timings to the faked events, SmokingGunII.

It takes just 10 seconds to simultaneously demolish two towers! The official narrative with an events timeline of 102 minutes has to be bunkum.

Please appreciate that there are 102 "official" minutes of missing amateur photos and footage! But what if the (undamaged) towers were collapsed simultaneously in 10 seconds? Eureka! Does that now explain the lack of footage?

There was only 10 seconds to capture any shots of the collapsing towers. And since the towers were never on fire, and never damaged by a strike, there could be no photos of those fake events either! Agreed?

Simple question: at what point in the official timeline (between 08:46 and 10:28) is the most expedient time to perform that double tower demolition?

No more scoffing, no more sniggering, no more sneering, please, SmokingGunII! People might otherwise doubt your motives :lol: Please confine your response (if any) to rational mature debate! Thank you.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby Mickey on September 4th, 2012, 8:36 pm

The more I think about it, this hypothesis has solid merit, and it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive with camera jamming theories either.

But RF can certainly help by not being condescending in his approach towards forum members. This isn't the only thread where I see this. ^_^
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 4th, 2012, 8:39 pm

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Foreword :

Mickey, it would appear NYC had no digital terrestrial coverage in 2001: Here's a 2005 article titled "NEW YORK BRACES FOR TV BLACKOUT : http://engel.house.gov/109th-congress-p ... -blackout/

Also:
"The New York market is uniquely problematic for multipath reception due to the large number of man-made obstacles which prevent adequate digital coverage of the entire city from the main broadcast facilities atop the Empire State Building."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_transmission_system


And last but not least:

"The NYC 9/11 Digital Television Transition Project"
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/legacy/otiahome/dtv/nyc911.html

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A LOOK AT RF'S HYPOTHESIS

For simplicity's sake - and for the sake of reasoned, open-minded discourse, I will hereby 'act as a supporter' of Reichstag Fireman's hypothesis. This doesn't mean that I do support it, but I find this way of debating an interesting exercice in assessing the validity (if any) of the different aspects involved in RF's hypothesis. So all I'm doing here is listing some thoughts over which we can all serenely ponder upon. As we make headway in one or the other direction, we may gradually weed out the impossible from the possible - and the absurd from the plausible.

I understand that the crux of RF's hypothesis can be succintly summed up as follows:

"New Yorkers (in our case, this term will include ALL people located at viewing distance from the WTC towers) were not aware of the (purported) events in Manhattan until both WTC towers suddenly collapsed in a few seconds, presumably at 10:28AM (as TV showed the second tower, WTC1, collapsing). This, because New Yorkers were virtually 'isolated' from the rest of the world - no TV, no phone lines, no internet connections, for the duration of 102 minutes."

It sure sounds like an outlandish theory - but we are all here well-equipped to handle & assess any seemingly 'crazy' theory before dismissing it offhand. What follows is therefore a series of considerations - and some fresh diggings of mine - which may (or may not) confer more plausibility to the above-mentioned scenario.

DOES THE US GOVERNMENT HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THE CIVILIAN AIRWAVES?

As far as I can tell, the answer to that question is "yes". Have you heard of EAS?

Here's the EAS Wonkypedia page:
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"EAS is a national warning system in the United States put into place on January 1, 1997."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System

True to form, the perps decided to perform the first total blackout of ALL US TV signals ... on 11/9 2011 - of all days. : :rolleyes:

Here's an article about that EAS 3-minute blackout 'test' of November 9, 2011:
"Did You Know Feds Will Temporarily Cut Off All TV and Radio Broadcasts on Nov. 9, 2011?"
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:07pm by Buck Sexton Buck Sexton

If you have ever wondered about the government’s ability to control the civilian airwaves, you will have your answer on November 9th. On that day, federal authorities are going to shut off all television and radio communications simultaneously at 2:00PM EST to complete the first ever test of the national Emergency Alert System (EAS).

The EAS has been around since 1994. Its precursor, the Emergency Broadcast System (EBS), started back in 1963. Television and radio broadcasters, satellite radio and satellite television providers, cable television and wireline video providers are all involved in the system.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-you ... -on-nov-9/



Back to 9/11, 2001: to be sure, the official reason given (during the "LIVE" 9/11 broadcasts) for the LOCAL NYC TV stations to lose their signal, was because "FLIGHT11" had crashed into WTC1 were all their transmitters were located. Now, this Wiki page tells us that a total of 9 stations (WPIX and "eight other") blacked out:

"On September 11, 2001, the transmitter facilities of WPIX, eight other television stations and several radio stations in the New York City area were destroyed when two hijacked airplanes crashed into and destroyed the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPIX


Whereas this other Wiki page mentions a total of 13 stations - including four major networks - CBS2, NBC4, WNYWFOX5, ABC7 !!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wpix-911.jpg

"A screen shot of the frozen picture as seen on the WPIX Satellite feed. It is my understanding that the satellite feed was microwave-relayed from the World Trade Center. It appears as if this shot was frozen by the Satellite Uplink's equipment upon loss of signal. If you look very carefully, you can see the shot was frozen not long after the second plane hit the #2 tower. The transmitting mast in the first tower was the primary broadcast facility for: WCBS 02, WNBC 04, WNYW FOX5, WABC 07, WWOR 09, WPIX 11, WNET 13, WPXN 31, WNJU 47, WKCR 89.9, WPAT 93.1, WNYC 93.9, and WKTU 103.5."

[ Caption signed by: ]

~Mike Fitzpatrick, NECRAT Webmaster[/i][/size]


This Mike Fitzpatrick (here's his Twitter page) - is apparently a Transmission engineer in New England for both TV & Radio - and works for NECRAT. If you wonder what NECRAT is : http://www.necrat.us/biz/wiki/index.php ... CRAT:About Looks like Mike should know what he's talking about. Maybe we should give him a call and ask him how he reckons that CBS, NBC, FOX and ABC were able to continue broadcasting after 8:46AM ?

To be sure, the info Wonkypedia has about the 9/11 TV stations' broadcasts is a pretty messy affair - replete with oddities and contradictions. In this other relevant Wiki page, we are told that...
"During the September 11, 2001 attacks, WCBS-TV channel 2 and WXTV-TV channel 41 stayed on the air. Unlike most other major New York television stations, WCBS-TV maintained a full-powered backup transmitter at the Empire State Building after moving its main transmitter to the North Tower of the World Trade Center. The station was also simulcasted nationally on Viacom (which at the time owned CBS) cable network VH1 that day. In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the station lent transmission time to the other stations who had lost their transmitters until they found suitable backup equipment and locations."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicat ... 11_attacks



On this other Wonkypedia page, we are told how the various TV channels "reacted"(sic) that day. (Please read paragraph titled "Reaction of various networks" ). To sum it up in simple words, that paragraph basically says that:

[1] - Some networks suspended their program lineup and simulcast the news coverage of their affiliated broadcast networks.

[2]- Other networks stopped airing programs altogether. (I found the weirdest Youtube video by some 'oddball' who claims to have resumed the MNN broadcasts on 9/12 - after MNN had "dropped the ball on 9/11" - suspending all their programming on September 11 2001.) MNN - The Manhattan Neighborhood Network public access TV : http://www.mnn.org/

[3]- Still other outlets continued their regular programming anyway; these included Disney Channel, Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, A&E, The History Channel, Game Show Network (etc...)


NEW YORK CELLPHONE/LANDPHONE BLACKOUT ON 9/11

As for the cellphone and other communication blackouts - which does seem to have occured (according to multiple and varied sources) - I found a most interesting webpage on the site of this most interesting, FEMA-affiliated company:


The New York City Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Service
http://nyc-arecs.org/jv2012.html

"Members of NYC-ARECS were activated during the 9/11 attack, as the cellular towers, police and fire communications, and most television antennas were lost when the World Trade Center collapsed."

[the full article is well worth the read]


I also re-discovered this other interesting comment on the Daily Paul website which I had saved some time ago (FWIW) :
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/120138
I was in FL when 9/11
Submitted by Maeve on Sun, 01/17/2010 - 19:55.
"I was in FL when 9/11 happened. We had no cell, landline, or internet service for nearly an hour. The tv still ran, but communications were cut off. I remember that very clearly."



THE QUESTION OF THE ABSENCE OF PRIVATE 9/11 IMAGERY
Well... I'll tackle this question later on. This post is getting far too longwinded ! :)
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby reichstag fireman on September 4th, 2012, 8:46 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
reichstag fireman wrote:Remember that anyone in or around New York who listened to the TV or radio on 911 (since you claim it wasn't blocked), would have heard the news of the apparent attacks and gone straight out with their cameras to capture the event. Yet that didn't happen. How so?


I am not claiming it [TV & Radio] was not blocked [in NY]. How would I know? I said i find it difficult to believe and I said why.


A quick review of this forum uncovered a message back on page 8 of this thread. It was posted by contributor cam251 on 9 August, who provided a youtube link to footage apparently broadcast across the US by abc on 911:

See:

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=457&start=105#p2373458
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OwEzJzQ_HY

A transcript excerpt from that footage:

MALE COMMENTATOR: A lot of the local TV signals, radio signals, two-way radio, AM and FM channels - many of those signals in New York City have ...

FEMALE ANCHOR
: Alright. Right now we're gonna interrupt. We're gonna go to the President. He's talking about what has just happened..


Waddaya reckon? Media blackout across NY, anyone?

And how was two-way radio (CB, Ham Radio, etc) unavailable in NY on 911, if not deliberately jammed?

Moreover, what need for jamming two-way radio in NYC?

To effect a near-total comms blackout? To keep New Yorkers blind to the PSYOP unfolding across the globe!

Agreed?

Now with the minutiae resolved, can we can revisit the Simultaneous Towers Demolition hypothesis?
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 4th, 2012, 11:44 pm

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While the above-posted "frozen satellite image" of WPIX (a.k.a."WB11") is still fresh in our minds, I'd like to mention a little 'head-scratcher' which puzzles me.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPIX

If, as Wikipedia has it, the WB11 “satellite” signal froze to a halt (before the tower collapses), how come we have these WB11 images depicting both towers collapsing? :huh:


WB11 "COLLAPSE IMAGERY OF WTC2 - 9:59AM"


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLjF3e2q8gg

WB11 "COLLAPSE IMAGERY OF WTC1- 10:28AM"


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFUBnP_Io1A
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 5th, 2012, 1:05 am

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If RF's hypothesis is correct, New Yorkers may find solace in the 'fact' that...


"Bin Laden was unable to watch the attacks on the World Trade Center because he couldn't get a television signal" :P :rolleyes:


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Osama Bin Laden ordered a satellite TV dish to watch 9/11 attacks... but couldn't get a signal at his mountainous base
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... acks.htmll
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby fbenario on September 5th, 2012, 1:07 am

Reichstag, I like your logic and analyses, even if I'm not convinced by all of them. I'm also sure I'm convinced by other things for which you think me foolish.

None of that matters in the slightest. Some of us want a forum with free speech (other than manipulative or abusive language). Please don't abandon the forum even if some folks insult you personally. Our sole goal is to educate people to think for themselves on media fakery, and I believe you share the same goal. So 'keep your bottle' and don't threaten to leave!
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby lux on September 5th, 2012, 1:22 am

reichstag fireman wrote:We are told there was real-time TV coverage almost from the moment of the first supposed "plane strike". So why didn't New Yorkers take to the streets by their thousands on watching that horror on TV, to look at the towers with their own eyes?

Why are there not thousands of amateur photos of the second strike, and photos of the two towers ablaze? And why no camcorder footage? Was no amateur cameramen there, to capture the final moments as each tower collapsed into rubble?

For a city with suburbs housing over 10 million people, there should be literally millions of amateur photos of the 911 towers published online! Yet we find none


These are good questions and points IMO.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby Mickey on September 5th, 2012, 4:55 am

Allow me to introduce a couple of holes in the Satellite blackout theory (I still support the overall hypothesis).

reichstag fireman wrote:"Satellite" TV - this is the medium that introduces the greatest weakpoint to the hypothesis. But is it?


Undoubtedly so.

Subscription satellite TV services can be disabled at the head-end via the broadcaster's conditional access scheme. That allows service to be disabled on a house-by-house basis, or even an entire district. So reception of subscription satellite TV could easily be turned off across the whole of NY. While the rest of the east coast can still receive it.


This is only partially accurate as I explained in the previous post. There are two things working against the ability to disable the entire NYC satellite footprint in 2001

(1) Satellite footprints were all CONUS (Continental United States). DTV and DN did not have the concept of "spot beams" introduced maybe until a few months later. Maybe there was ability to block NYC region specifically(and you can insert theories about "satellites" authenticity here) but the knowledge of this was nowhere in the public domain. CONUS beam is CONUS beam. What was receivable in Alabama, was receivable in NY or anywhere else.

(2) Both subscription providers' encryption systems were entirely compromised. This means that as long as anyone that had the correct dish pointing to the DTV/DN orbital locations, and the descrambling devices, they had access to the same programming that everyone else in the US had. With the introduction of spot beams a few years later, it is possible to control which specific regions within the CONUS can see programming, as some transponders only relay to specific states, but not in 2001. With piracy rampant in those days, I would guess around 10% of all sat dishes were actually receiving programming illegally. These did not even have to be in the DTV/DN billing systems. DTV/DN could disable the NYC based legitimate subscribers blocking the CAM on a house-by-house basis as you indicated(yes this was doable) but not the pirates. Maybe the DTV initiated Super Bowl Black Sunday ECM was an attempt to reduce the numbers for the show a few months later?

Edited to add: Maybe DTV and DN had sent Electronic Counter Measures in their streams to at least block a large percentage of the pirate base specifically on that day. For the smart few who knew the hacking innards, they could still beat the ECM but this was a very very low percentage of the pirate population. I will try to search but there were some forums dedicated for all this stuff but have long since shutdown for good.

According to Mickey, unencrypted Free-to-Air "satellite" TV (which can't be selectively blocked by region) was not common in the USA in 2001. And very few people even today have motorised reception dishes and specialist receivers to watch FTA. So that leaves vanishingly few "satellite" TV viewers who could break through a media blackout imposed on NY on 911.


While our guess about the low numbers is true, and the numbers were significantly lower in 2001 for sure, this still leaves a gaping hole though. All of the 5/6 main networks(CBS/NBC/ABC/FOX/PBS/CSPAN etc) have several local affiliates around the country that broadcast in the clear. So it isn't just about the wildfeeds/backhauls. The positioning and frequency details of these networks have always been in the public domain and sat hobbyists have maintained easy to see lists in several forums example http://www.gofastmotorsports.com/channellist.html . Even if there were say 10 people in the NYC area that had FTA equipment, this is still a vulnerability. I doubt anyone in the Manhattan area had FTA gear at that time, but parts of suburbs/ New Jersey side? I may post in Rick's forums to see if anyone remembers anything but I doubt I will get any solid answers due to various reasons.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby Mickey on September 6th, 2012, 2:44 am

Simon

I did mean to acknowledge that the lack of terrestrial coverage is most easily explainable. All they had to do was switch off the transmitters whenever they pleased. This was the easiest medium out of the three to control and turn off.

I did some looking around to see if there were some new Electronic Counter Measures/Hashing in the DTV/DN streams that day but a reliable site about such information doesn't seem to list any specific ECMs.

http://www.dishnewsonline.tv/index.php?action=na2001


Please help the victims // September 12th, 2001
I am stunned and loosing my faith in human being, how can a person take other peoples life why do that to other people specially innocent people including women and children. I have never asked anyone for help since I started my web page 4 years ago but this is a perfect time for me to ask my readers to donate money, blood and their expertise to help the victims I have a link here to PayPal who have set up a good program please go there and donate.

A tragic day // September 11st, 2001
This is a tragic morning so many people have lost their lives today I hope these cowards get caught and get the punishment they deserve. My prayers are with innocent people and their families.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 6th, 2012, 3:07 am

Mickey wrote:I did some looking around to see if there were some new Electronic Counter Measures/Hashing in the DTV/DN streams that day but a reliable site about such information doesn't seem to list any specific ECMs.

Please help the victims // September 12th, 2001
I am stunned and loosing my faith in human being, how can a person take other peoples life why do that to other people specially innocent people including women and children. I have never asked anyone for help since I started my web page 4 years ago but this is a perfect time for me to ask my readers to donate money, blood and their expertise to help the victims I have a link here to PayPal who have set up a good program please go there and donate.

A tragic day // September 11st, 2001
This is a tragic morning so many people have lost their lives today I hope these cowards get caught and get the punishment they deserve. My prayers are with innocent people and their families.
http://www.dishnewsonline.tv/index.php?action=na2001


:lol: :lol: :lol:

That sounds like a mighty reliable site !
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby Mickey on September 6th, 2012, 3:25 am

simonshack wrote:
Mickey wrote:I did some looking around to see if there were some new Electronic Counter Measures/Hashing in the DTV/DN streams that day but a reliable site about such information doesn't seem to list any specific ECMs.

Please help the victims // September 12th, 2001
I am stunned and loosing my faith in human being, how can a person take other peoples life why do that to other people specially innocent people including women and children. I have never asked anyone for help since I started my web page 4 years ago but this is a perfect time for me to ask my readers to donate money, blood and their expertise to help the victims I have a link here to PayPal who have set up a good program please go there and donate.

A tragic day // September 11st, 2001
This is a tragic morning so many people have lost their lives today I hope these cowards get caught and get the punishment they deserve. My prayers are with innocent people and their families.
http://www.dishnewsonline.tv/index.php?action=na2001


:lol: :lol: :lol:

That sounds like a mighty reliable site !


Keep in mind those were posted on that day when that was the general sentiment. This was one of the top sites for ECM info back in the day. There were obviously even better ones and a lot more technical, but they have been shut down for a long time due to legal pressures over the years. This is no shill outfit. He probably still doesn't know. I meant to post the entries for those couple of days.
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 6th, 2012, 4:01 am

Dear Mickey,

To be quite honest, I'm not really much interested in the satellite TV issue. Well, I would be, if you could point me to some articles - any articles - stating something to this tune:

"Following the TV blackout caused by the destruction of the WTC1 antenna serving almost all of New Yotk City's television networks, only New Yorkers equipped with satellite dishes were able to tune in on the newscasts of the day."

:mellow:

Instead, all I have been able to find (as to the state of TV coverage in New York that day) is info such as this:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wpix-911.jpg

"A screen shot of the frozen picture as seen on the WPIX Satellite feed. It is my understanding that the satellite feed was microwave-relayed from the World Trade Center. It appears as if this shot was frozen by the Satellite Uplink's equipment upon loss of signal. If you look very carefully, you can see the shot was frozen not long after the second plane hit the #2 tower. The transmitting mast in the first tower was the primary broadcast facility for: WCBS 02, WNBC 04, WNYW FOX5, WABC 07, WWOR 09, WPIX 11, WNET 13, WPXN 31, WNJU 47, WKCR 89.9, WPAT 93.1, WNYC 93.9, and WKTU 103.5."


~Mike Fitzpatrick, NECRAT Webmaster



Or like this:

"The September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center did not affect WXTV's [channel 41]over-the-air signal, as WXTV's transmitter has always been at the Empire State Building. WXTV 41 and WCBS-TV, who had a full-powered backup transmitter at the Empire State Building, were the only major New York City stations whose over-the-air signals weren't lost. In fact, channel 41's news anchors gave information and updates in English as well as Spanish on the attacks for the benefit of viewers without cable that lost access to the stations with transmitters at the WTC."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WXTV-TV



So what gives?

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Please listen to the BBC envoy GREG BARROW - allegedly talking from New York while the images show WTC2 collapsing. Notice anything strange? Does Greg seem to be aware that WTC2 has collapsed? Is Greg in New York at all? Perhaps this BBC correspondent was a lazy sod - and didn't even bother to find (for over 70min after the "first plane strike") a good vantage point in order to observe firsthand the flaming WTC towers - the most incredible and newsworthy sight of the day? Whatever you think about this, don't you think Greg Barrow should be at the very least fired from his job?

From about 1:10 into this BBC archive clip onwards:
http://archive.org/details/bbc200109110957-1039
(or watch on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP58rZzx7z4 )

******edit update*******

Well, it appears GREG BARROW now works for the World Food Programme - and lives in Rome! I should invite him for a chat and a cup of tea. <_<


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Greg Barrow is WFP's Global Media Coordinator, based at headquarters in Rome. He moved to Rome in 2008 from London, where he headed up WFP's Liaison Office for the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland for almost 5 years.

Before joining WFP, Greg Barrow worked for 14 years as a television and radio journalist for the BBC. He spent a six-year stint reporting from sub-Saharan Africa, based first in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, and then in Johannesburg in South Africa, covering mainly conflict and humanitarian disaster stories. He than spent three years in New York as the BBC United Nations Correspondent and reported on the 9/11 attacks.

http://www.wfp.org/content/greg-barrow-0
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Re: Electronic Jamming on 9/11

Postby simonshack on September 6th, 2012, 3:36 pm

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GREG BARROW - "the psychic"

Greg Barrow is again introduced by female BBC anchor (Nisha Pillai) at what would have been 10:09 AM New York time (i.e. 19 full minutes before the collapse of WTC1 at 10:28 - and only 10MIN after he failed to report on air the WTC2 collapse).

At 1:57 into this video:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWBahl2o8fY

Greg says (at 10:09AM - New York time):
"Well, not much to add, only that we are witnessing the collapse of those two World Trade Center towers that were hit this morning."

:blink: :lol: "Not much to add", Greg?! Not even a humble explanation/apology for NOT having reported the WTC2 collapse - while the BBC was already running replays of it? And now, only 10min later (and a full 19 min before the WTC1 collapse), you already know that the second tower is doomed too? Who told you so? Your journalistic instinct?

So, to repeat: Greg, who only 10 minutes earlier failed to notice WTC2 collapsing (while he was on air at 9:59*) now predicts that WTC1 will collapse too ... a full 19minutes early spot-on prediction! Hmm. Perhaps Greg is a blind psychic?

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*(BBC actually shows the WTC2 collapse "LIVE" at 9:58:29 - which is 30 seconds earlier than the NIST's exact collapse time of 9:58min59s)
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/ ... _Final.pdf
(If you have never read NIST's hilarious collapse report - please do, it's a pretty entertaining science-fiction 'novel'!) :lol:
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