fred wrote:simonshack wrote:To use novel and untested technology to bring down the WTC complex would have been a definite no-no: an absolutely foolish and unnecessary extra risk - the kind of which no military-managed operation will ever go with.
Simon, I agree with everything in your reply to Kentrailer, especially your assessments of using the shills to boost the credibility of the fake imagery.
However I think Kentrailer does has a valid point, and so I have a minor quibble with you: Why do you assume or believe that Directed Energy Weapons are novel or untested? They've been working on this stuff for a lot longer than you or I have been on this planet. Tesla is quoted in many articles from 1935 saying he could bring down the Empire State Building with a small portable device. [And the ESB actually survived a real military plane crash, unlike the flimsy made-for-TV WTC complex.]
Your DVD player uses a laser and your kitchen oven probably contains a microwave. Do you honestly believe that there are no destructive military applications for this very useful technology that somehow found its way into your cheap consumer devices like CD players decades ago? This stuff would have been novel and untested 100 years ago. Now it's in kitchen appliances.
Raytheon and Boeing have only had maybe the last 70 years before 9/11 to figure out how to blow something up with it. Then there are the non-consumer technologies which weapons scientists and engineers have been working on for generations. Most of Tesla's notebooks are still classified today. The USA imported a bunch of Nazi scientists from Germany after WWII. The Israeli's are known to have a pretty good grasp of weapons technology. Have you been attending every secret weapons test for the last 100 years to conclude that they're still stuck with technology invented by Alfred Nobel? This stuff has been around a lot longer than we have. I think somebody has figured out how to make it work by 2001.
c.f.
New York World-Telegram
11 July 1935
NIKOLA TESLA, AT 79, USES EARTH TO TRANSMIT SIGNALS: EXPECTS TO HAVE $100,000,000 WITHIN TWO YEARS
Could Destroy Empire State Building with Five Pounds of Air Pressure, He Says
by
Earl Sparling
1. He had discovered the so-called cosmic ray in 1896, at least five years before any other scientist took it up and twenty years before it became popular among scientists, and he is now convinced that many of the cosmic particles travel fifty times faster than light, some of them 500 times faster.
Needs No Commutator
2. He has found a way to produce a direct electric current by induction and without the use of a commutator, which is something the experts in electricity have considered impossible for the past hundred years.
3. He has invented an "absolutely impossible" machine which will impart vibrations to the earth which, with proper receiving apparatus can be picked up anywhere on the earth's surface, and that this mysterious machine will allow scientists to explore the deep interior of the earth, will enable practical geologists to discover gold, coal and petroleum, and at the same time will give ships the means of navigating without compass or sextant.
Dr. Tesla has 600 to 700 patents to his name. He invented the rotary field motor, and is admittedly the seer and father of all modern electrical development. As has been his custom for five years now, he arranged his own birthday party, drank only hot milk as his part of the celebration, and made his announcements with the superb certainty of a man who knew what he was talking about, even if none of his guests did.
Tells of "Quake"
He said, among other things, that he expects to have $100,000,000 within two years, and he revealed that
an earthquake which drew police and ambulances to the region of his laboratory at 48 E. Houston St. in 188.7 or 1888 was the result of a little machine he was experimenting with at that time which "you could put in your overcoat pocket."
The bewildered newspapermen pounced upon this as at least one thing they could understand and "the father of modern electricity" told what had happened as follows: -
"I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound.
"I asked my assistants where did the sound come from. They did not know. I put the machine up a few more notches. There was a louder cracking sound. I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher.
"Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been down about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium. The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake. That's all they ever knew about it."
Watch Out, Mr. Smith
Some shrewd reporter asked Dr. Tesla at this point what he would need to destroy the Empire State Building and the doctor replied: - "Five pounds of air pressure. If I attached the proper oscillating machine on a girder that is all the force I would need, five pounds. Vibration will do anything.- It would only be necessary to step up the vibrations of the machine to fit the natural vibration of the building and the building would come crashing down. That's why soldiers always break step crossing a bridge."
His early experiments in vibration, he explained, led to his invention of his "earth vibrating" machine. Tall and thin and ascetic face, his eyes sunken but … humorous under protruding brows, he was cagey about describing what his new machine is, although he believes it will be "the chief thing of my many inventions posterity will thank me for." …
----
New York Times ( 11 July 1935, p. 23, c. 8 )
His Greatest Achievement
one of the subjects, which he hoped, he said, will come to be recognized as his "greatest achievement in the field of engineering," was, he said, the perfection by him of "an apparatus by which mechanical energy can be transmitted to any part of the terrestrial globe."
This apparatus, he said, will have at least four practical possibilities. It will give the world a new means of unfailing communication; it will provide a new and by far the safest means for guiding ships at sea and into port; it will furnish a certain divining rod for locating ore deposits of any kind under the surface of the earth; and finally, it will furnish scientists with a means for laying bare the physical conditions of the earth, and will enable them to determine all of the earth's physical constants.
He called this discovery "tele-geodynamics," motion of earth-forces at a distance. It is of this, he said, that it would "appear almost preposterous." The apparatus, he added, is "ideally simple," consisting of a stationary part and a cylinder of fine steel "floating" in air.
He has found means, he said, of "impressing upon the floating part powerful impulses which react on the stationary part, and through the latter to transmit energy through the earth." To do this he has "found a new amplifier for a known type of energy," and the "purpose is to produce impulses through the earth and then pick them up whenever needed."
----
Novel and Untested since 1917?