Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby hoi.polloi on December 16th, 2011, 10:53 pm

Peoplefinders = Data aggregators = fake and real mixed together haphazardly = worthless as evidence of anything
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby Thunder on April 12th, 2012, 1:09 pm

Some stuff about Lisa Beamer, wife of Todd Beamer.
In 2008 they lived here:
Todd M & Lisa K Beamer
9 Cubberly Ct
Cranbury, NJ 08512-2821
(609) 860-8533

They bought the house for $1996954.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z13/ ... erDeed.jpg

Now it seems that Lisa moved:
Lisa K Beamer
(609) 860-8536
4 Evans Dr
Cranbury, NJ 08512-3125

She lives there with Rebecca L Jordan, Sara C Jordan, Laurie P Jordan, Zack W Jordan.
4 Evans Dr was sold August 25, 2009 for $850000.

Almost the same phone number, but not far away from the old house (5 to 10 minutes).
Now, Helen and Panagiota Simigiannis live in 9 Cubberly Ct. They bought it for $950000 on May 19, 2010. (http://peoplehouses.com/f/SIMaa457867-4 ... 8751f.html and http://www.zillow.com)

Don't sure if you need these information, but I find it quite interessting
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby brianv on April 12th, 2012, 2:01 pm

Panagiota Simigiannis ?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby Thunder on April 12th, 2012, 2:52 pm

Yes, this is a greek name, but I thought Panagiota (pronounced similar to "Panajoda") was a female name. Simigiannis is also a common greek surname. Helen is a doctor of gynecology and is married to a man ;)
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby brianv on April 12th, 2012, 8:35 pm

Thunder wrote:Yes, this is a greek name, but I thought Panagiota (pronounced similar to "Panajoda") was a female name. Simigiannis is also a common greek surname. Helen is a doctor of gynecology and is married to a man ;)


You have met them then? Or are you simply repeating media bullshit?
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby nonhocapito on April 12th, 2012, 11:01 pm

Thunder wrote:Don't sure if you need these information, but I find it quite interessting


More than "interessting" I find them quite confusing. First of all: any little tidbit of information you post here, you must give us a link to where you took that information from. I happen to know you are taking this from letsroll, mind you (precisely from this page: http://letsrollforums.com/10-2007-lisa- ... 17025.html) however, none of the links provided in that story actually points to a page containing this information. So you are taking it as it is, trusting the middle man, and maybe you shouldn't.

Second: borrowing from letsroll, you seem to suggest that "Todd Beamer", almost certainly a fake identity of a non-existing person, would still be around buying houses -- or was in 2008.

It begs to question why would any fake 9/11 victim use one's real name after having faked one's death. Or, conversely, why should anyone use one's real name as a fake 9/11 victim, and yet photoshop one's pictures and falsify one's biographical notes. :wacko:

Then you also suggest that "Lisa Beamer", almost certainly a fake identity posed by an actress, would actually be living anywhere under this name. This is possible, of course, it could be part of the acting deal, it might come with the necessity to handle the phony foundation that most likely is supposed to co-finance her operation (of course there's a foundation! http://foundationcenter.org/pnd/spotlig ... =188700002 although now the website doesn't seem to work anymore).

However it is also possible that all these addresses and infos have been added to the internet to give Lisa Beamer some credibility --but it is all happening in the electronic world, not in reality, and the agent/actress lives comfortably elsewhere, with her real dog and her real boyfriend.

Finally, the connection to SIMigiannis is completely incomprehensible to me and almost qualifies as trolling. <_<
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby Thunder on April 13th, 2012, 1:00 pm

It's very easy to verify that stuff. http://www.antheiagyn.com/about-dr-hele ... iannis.php there is a hint "She lives in Cranbury NJ with her husband". I do not believe that there are two Helen Simigiannis in Cranbury.
At peoplehouses.com you can read purchasing histories for houses. Just search for the name.
At www.whitepages.com you can see where she lives now. Just enter one of the mentioned addresses.
And at www.zillow.com you can see what house are sold for what price at what date. Also just enter the addresses.

Also I did not made any suggestions if something was faked or Todd is still alive. Just as an additional information how expensive the houses were and when they got sold and who is in the new owners list.
These are no evidences of faked ppl, just an additional information. Maybe this can be useful somewhere else. For more, I won't lean out of the window too much at this point.
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Re: Meet VICSIM Robert Eaton's Family

Postby antipodean on April 13th, 2012, 1:18 pm

http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/guestbo ... pid=134404
A bit of a bump, but thought it interesting how this vicsim's family is expanding their profile.

Any Brits on here living in the Brighton area at a loose end on Sunday, get along to the finish of the Brighton Marathon & meet vicsim Robert Eaton's nephew, he's raising money for the 'Robert Eaton Memorial Fund' REMF. Robert's dad has chipped in with a hundred quid.
Good luck Charlie, we are very proud of you. Nanny and Grampy.xxDonation by Doglas Eaton. on 19/03/12
http://www.justgiving.com/Charlie-Stephenson

1. Lee Burberry
2. Terry Hilder
3. Richard Morris
4. Bob Gear
5. Tim Hodges
6. Kevin Risby - CPFC supporter, running in a Pink BHAFC shirt
7. Mark Bushell - CPFC supporter, running in a BHAFC shirt
8. Charlie Stephenson - Robert Eaton's nephew
9. Richard Stevens


http://www.northstandchat.com/showthrea ... Final-Push.

Or get along to the annual 'Robert Eaton Memorial Fund' soccer match on May 11th, being held in nearby Lewes, where Rob's Dad is often involved in presenting the after match medals & trophies.
http://www.justgiving.com/REMF2012
http://www.remf.org.uk/#/about-remf/4562414626

(@ 8min 30sec.)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvNNNIXaZY

More on Robert Eaton (Vice President of E speed) in the Cantor Fitzgerald thread.
viewtopic.php?p=2359829#p2359829
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Re: Meet VICSIM Robert Eaton's Family

Postby Heiwa on April 14th, 2012, 11:11 am

antipodean wrote:More on Robert Eaton (Vice President of E speed) in the Cantor Fitzgerald thread.
viewtopic.php?p=2359829#p2359829


And at http://letsrollforums.com/robert-eaton- ... 26644.html
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby antipodean on May 5th, 2012, 10:55 pm

The vicsims relatives & friends conspicuous by their absence here.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1360 ... -in-court/
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby enantiodromie on May 16th, 2012, 11:21 am

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That's Fred's facebook profile: https://www.facebook.com/fredluchsinger
He seems a real person.

Please pay attention to this picture:

Image

The image properties tell it was shot with a Canon PowerShot S100, it was used no zoom and other information. Seems to be a real picture, no photoshop, just the whole picture from the camera memory.
Please someone investigate more about those things
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby brianv on May 16th, 2012, 12:00 pm

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Why, it's none other than Fred Batshit. :rolleyes:

Also note the Standard Vicsim Clothing in the above image.
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby pshea38 on May 16th, 2012, 6:54 pm

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I wouldn't fancy bumping into these two down a dark (and blind) alley!
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby Maat on May 16th, 2012, 7:25 pm

enantiodromie wrote:
That's Fred's facebook profile: https://www.facebook.com/fredluchsinger
He seems a real person.

Please pay attention to this picture:
http://i.imgur.com/qbvUR.jpg

The image properties tell it was shot with a Canon PowerShot S100, it was used no zoom and other information. Seems to be a real picture, no photoshop, just the whole picture from the camera memory.
Please someone investigate more about those things

Enantiodromie,

Can you tell us where you are quoting the supposed "image properties" from? No camera of any kind is noted in the Exif data of the image you posted (no info at all, in fact): http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&referer= ... FqbvUR.jpg
And the Facebook link gets "This content is currently unavailable."

The smaller version on 'We Remember [Creating] Brad' has no "camera" data either, of course.
Image
@ http://www.bradfetchet.com/2005Birthday ... el_JPG.htm

Exif Viewer: http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&referer= ... el_JPG.jpg

ELA results (on larger version): http://www.fotoforensics.com/analysis.p ... 2a1.442049
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Re: Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

Postby enantiodromie on May 19th, 2012, 1:49 pm

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