simonshack wrote:Dear elmoastro,
My very simple question would be: do you still plan to do so, one fine day? If not - why? I have even provided you with a 'soft' way of doing so (William Tselepsis' absurd absence from Cantor's own 9/11 memorial) which allows you to submit to your friend/acquaintance a simple, non-offensive question: "How come your brother is missing from the Cantor Memorial?"
See, the reason you are met with skepticism and impatience here is also very simple: to this day, and for almost half a decade now, every single entity who has mentioned "knowing someone who perished on 9/11" has - unfailingly - ended up either talking his/her way out of the issue, dodging it altogether, disappearing from the forum or, (as is your case) suggesting that we all need to be more open-minded about - or to reconsider - the basic postulation of our longstanding VicSim research: that no one was killed 'as advertised in the media' (in towers or airplanes) on 9/11.
Yes. I do plan to ask the question. And I understand the reason for the doubt as you explained. To be clear I am interested to find out as well. I want to have discretion in how I approach it. Given it's been over a decade, I'm ok if it takes a little time for the right opportunity.
Now, your last post above even brought up the notion of 'religious belief' which, quite frankly, raises a tall red flag as to what may be your actual, underlying agenda. To be sure, we are all very tired of the relentless attempts to liken this forum to some "cult" or "religion". I am, for one, growing pretty weary of it all. What we do here is the exact opposite of that - as we valiantly keep calling out the dogmatic Official 9/11 Tale, sold to the public as an incontestable Bible through the mighty and cultish powers of the "Infallible Church of Television".
My post was philosophical, dealing with my own personal experiences with cutting through my own belief and was directed at human psychology, not an attempt to link CF with religion. If it was taken that way, I apologize. It wasn't an attack or degradation. Religion should be kept out of it, I agree. Belief in any form is what I refer to and applies across any discipline in my opinion.
Lastly, the last sentence of your above post tells me that you are most likely just a silly troll: "But it's also the potential flat-earth lens." I suppose this is a crude innuendo aimed at associating us all to flat-earthers? If not, please explain - to the best of your capacities. Your next post may be your last on this forum.
Not at all. It is my own mantra. I ask myself "What is my own flat-earth thinking." It's my own koan that breaks my ego from wanting to be right or wrong. It allows me to leave room for the things I personally may be blind to. It is what I use to cut through my own belief programs. It allows me to keep an open mind. And it seems to work for me. Having done personal work on belief and seeing the results, it is my opinion that it is very difficult to understand and apply how we wire emotion and belief. The biggest example is 9/11. The majority believe what they saw on TV and still do to this day. I learned to cut through that belief for myself as have members of this forum. It's not an attempt to subvert or sway others. Yes, I have opinions, but I try to be open to information that may go against something I hold to be true. I don't believe CF to be a group of flat-earthers. Since I use "lens" as a metaphor for how I personally look at things, I've tried to strip away old, out-dated lenses in my own life and replace them with ones that allow for more clarity in a situation. Again, if it was taken as a direct shot at CF, then I apologize. Keep in mind, I'm not the one that made this the focus as I had no clue it was historically charged with your prior experiences. To you, I'm a troll. To me, I made a statement that has been taken as a direct shot at your research. A troll pursues an agenda. I have no agenda and have only tried to answer in response--not put forth alternatives to counter your research. I'm only trying to fit what I've learned here with my own experience and try to fit it into a semblance of truth. I didn't even reopen this thread. I've explained it before so I won't repeat. As far as the future, do what you gotta do.