Did you donate money to a 9/11 scam?

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Did you donate money to a 9/11 scam?

Postby hoi.polloi on April 8th, 2010, 11:55 am

"Reporting Fraud and Scams to the Proper Authorities"
Some advice from http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Vic ... orting.htm

Federal Trade Commission: KnowFraud Complaint Form: https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

Individuals who suspect possible corporate fraud may report suspicious activity to the FBI in Washington, DC, via a toll-free Corporate Fraud Hotline. The number is (888) 622- 0117. The Hotline is manned Monday through Friday 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. by FBI analysts.

The FBI also has a terrorist tip line which has been extended to include other serious crimes.

They have received over 600,000 tips from around the globe. Initially, almost 100% of the tips received were related to the terrorist attacks; however, now approximately 45% of all tips received are related to almost every other FBI criminal program, e.g., drug trafficking, organized crime, money laundering, pyramid schemes, child pornography, fugitives, bank robbery.

A list of local Field Offices for the Secret Service.

etc.

They also have recommendations for Canadian and British citizens.

And then there's this fun one:

Get the Taxman After the Conman

Did the scammer report your losses as income or did they hide it somewhere? If you suspect any tax fraud activity, you can report it to the Internal Revenue Service toll free at 800-829-0433. You may even get a reward by filing a Form 211 with the IRS.

Before you poo-poo these potential solutions as a lost cause, just imagine what would happen if every person who donated money to the Elizabeth Wainio scams suddenly called the FCC, SEC and filled a Form 211 with the IRS? Do you think the fake 9/11 vicsim would get exposed?

I wonder .... ;)

One of the last sections, near the bottom of the page offers phone numbers - per state's Attorney General's office - for reporting fraud.

B)
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Postby fred on April 8th, 2010, 2:20 pm

Another worthy pursuit would be to accuse the some of the relatives of the fake victims of engaging in deliberate fraud. There's no need to even get into the broader 9/11 issue-- simply pointing out that they tried to claim a fake relative who never existed in order to get sympathy and defraud the compensation fund would generate plenty of unwanted attention and outrage.

"This man is CEO of a major bank, and yet he lied about having a son in the towers just to try to get another million dollars for himself."

Going after that kind of scum is the sort of case like the sort of case that even a hit man would take on pro bono. All we need is a politically ambitious prosecutor. The factual allegations alone will bring a lot of very unwanted attention to these lowly Enron-style financial fraudsters.
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Postby brianv on April 9th, 2010, 2:54 pm

There were collection boxes in every pub and restaurant in Ireland for the Firefighters, which really pissed me off at the time. Even more so now!
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Postby simonshack on April 9th, 2010, 3:13 pm

brianv @ Apr 9 2010, 01:54 PM wrote: There were collection boxes in every pub and restaurant in Ireland for the Firefighters, which really pissed me off at the time. Even more so now!

You've gotta be kiddin'....I'd pay gold to see where those pennies went. Maybe you could ask a pub owner who brought the boxes ? :unsure:
http://www.septemberclues.info
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Postby brianv on April 9th, 2010, 3:47 pm

simonshack @ Apr 9 2010, 03:13 PM wrote:
brianv 4 Apr 9 2010, 01:54 PM wrote: There were collection boxes in every pub and restaurant in Ireland for the Firefighters, which really pissed me off at the time. Even more so now!


You've gotta be kiddin'....I'd pay gold to see where those pennies went. Maybe you could ask a pub owner who brought the boxes ? :unsure:


I will Simon!
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Postby proloft on April 9th, 2010, 5:47 pm

simonshack 4 Apr 9 2010, 03:13 PM wrote:Maybe you could ask a pub owner who brought the boxes ? :unsure:

Where I come from there were firemen standing on street corners holding a gumboot,
kinda like the squeegee-people accosting you at traffic lights, asking for money.

I remember giving them a whopping 7 (all that I had in my wallet at the time) and
wishing them well.

I would like my seven dollars back now.:angry: Maybe I'll pick a local fire station and ask the
guys there if they remember where the money went after they had collected it.

Yes, thanks for the idea brianv & Simon!
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Re: 9/11 Money Grab

Postby simonshack on January 29th, 2012, 11:14 pm

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oh my, oh my...I am so very shocked and outraged ! :lol: :rolleyes:

Abuses in charities tied to 9/11
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... d-911.html
"NEW YORK - Americans eager to give after the 9/11 terrorist attacks poured $1.5 billion into hundreds of charities established to serve the victims, their families and their memories. But a decade later, an Associated Press investigation shows that many of those non-profits have failed miserably."


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Fortunately, though - these evil scammers will be punished in due time... <_<
New York, Arizona To Investigate 9/11 Charity Scams
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/3 ... 43530.html
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Postby simonshack on January 30th, 2012, 12:03 am

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...and now, ladies and gents, some advice to avoid getting scammed - courtesy of...

BBB (the Better Business Bureau)
http://www.bbb.org/blog/2011/09/911-sca ... americans/

My personal favorite BBB 'consumer tips':

"When solicited to contribute to charities, ask questions about why the charity still needs to collect 9/11 related money now. What ongoing purposes are they serving that flow from the events of 9/11?"

"When surfing social networking sites, steer clear of links with so-called secret 9/11 videos or conspiracy theories."

"For online videos related to the anniversary of 9/11, rely on websites run by TV networks and other reputable news organizations."
Arf arf arf ! :lol: :rolleyes:

(the BBB should run spell checks: that "repuTable" needs a "K" !!!) :puke:
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Re: Did you donate money to a 9/11 scam?

Postby simonshack on February 10th, 2013, 9:36 pm

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*recommended info for Italian readers*



IMPOSSIBILE.IT
a case study of '9/11 charity' fraud

I just bumped into this cheap, über-crass little stinkhole of a 9/11 fundraiser today: "IMPOSSIBILE.IT" :



It was apparently set up in the immediate aftermath of September 11 2001, and it apparently only raised $9725 in total - but what is remarkable about it - is that it targeted the pockets of overseas, Italian donors - "in support of firehouses and first responders of 9/11". In the list of donors, we can even find a famous Italian/Jewish TV comedian, Paolo Hendel.

Here ìs my best translation of the first lines of the 'mission statement' of IMPOSSIBLE.IT - read it to believe it !


Perchè IMPOSSIBILE.IT ?
....perchè quello che è successo negli States, se non lo avessimo visto tutti in diretta tv, sarebbe stato ritenuto impossibile. Impossibile tirare giù le due Torri, impossibile beccare il Pentagono, impossibile che 4 aerei si schiantassero simultaneamente contro 4 obiettivi in America con molti kamikaze a bordo. Impossibile che così tante persone rimanessero fregate nello stesso momento. Sembrava un film di fantapolitica realizzato al computer, tipo Independence Day o L'inferno di cristallo (ricordate?) ed invece è successo veramente.


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Why "IMPOSSIBLE.IT" ?
"...because what happened in the States, if we hadn't all seen it on Live TV, would have been considered impossibile. Impossible to bring down the two towers, impossible to strike the Pentagon, impossible that 4 planes would simultaneously crash into 4 targets in America with many kamikaze pilots aboard. Impossible that so many people got screwed [YES - "screwed" is the literal transalation of "fregate" - try Google translate!]at the same time. It looked like a computer-crafted fanta-political movie, such as Independence Day or the Towering Inferno (remember?) yet it all happened for real."



So, I was naturally curious to find out who was behind this umpteenth despicable 9/11 scam. It turns out that a lady in NY (of Italian descent) named Ferne Mele is the person who, we are told, personally handed out the donation cheques to the various recipients of the funds raised by IMPOSSIBILE.IT. Here are the five cheques (actually illustrated on the site!) which were allegedly handed out :

A $1500 cheque to Dean St. Heroes, Fund Brooklyn (Engine 219/Ladder 105)
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A $1500 cheque to Rescue 3, Bronx:
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A $1500 cheque to Rescue 5, Staten Island:
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A $1500 cheque to Engine 235, Brooklyn:
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A (measly) $200 cheque to the Yamel Merino Memorial Fund:
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(If you wonder about "Yamel Merino" - please check out this newly updated forum post of mine.


Now, here we have Mrs Ferne Mele (center) - of the Synergos Institute:

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http://www.synergos.org/universityforanight/10/003.htm
Here's Mrs Ferne Mele's bio: http://www.synergos.org/bios/fmele.htm

"The Synergos Institute is a nonprofit organization based in New York that works with local partners around the world to fight poverty".

Wow - sounds neat, huh? They fight poverty! As it is, Mrs Merle's charitable hand reaches out to all sorts of needy people: <_<

Yup - that's right: Mrs Ferne Mele has dished out $2900 for poor Barack Hussein Obama's campaign.

That's all for now, folks - hope you enjoyed hearing about this pathetic IMPOSSIBILE.IT 9/11 con-scheme... I find it priceless!
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