Selene wrote: fbenario wrote:
omaxsteve wrote:Like the majority of people I know (whether Jewish or not) neither my sister, nor any of her family (husband and three kids) are even remotely open to the possibility that the whole 9-11 event and specifically the plane crashes, as you and I both know, were nothing more than a made for TV movie.
You've got at least a double (and possibly a triple) negative in there, which renders the sentence either meaningless, or the opposite of what I think you are trying hastily to say. Still, it is so confusingly written I can't even be sure I'm right that it is poorly done.
It's unreadable (coming from me ...
But it touches upon a sensitive spot.
I reckon that 98% of my social surroundings sheeplishly follows the "official story" on 9/11 or at least does think planes...
Some I have been able to convince but the number of ignorant sheeple is much bigger...
I hope I am an exception.
In my experience it is best to start out with simple things when introducing a person to media fakery.
Traumatic events have a powerful affect on the brain. The hoaxers count on this to keep people from exercising any critical thinking about a given event.
So I like to start out with people by asking "if the news media and government were caught blatantly lying to you, they would lose their credibility right?" Once they agree I show them the LAX dummy video. Nine times out of ten I get a "are you sh!tting me!" kind of response. That opens the door wide open, and then I show them Robbie Parker smiling and laughing. That is always followed by a nearly identical response.
At that point I have established credibility for myself and simultaneously crushed whatever faith they had in the media. Most of the time they ask me for more examples, but I tell them to watch "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook" and get back to me later.
When they do it is almost always accompanied with wanting to talk about it or them wanting to know what other events have been staged. That's when I tell them to go to cluesforum.
So here is where the gained credibility (usually some pre existing cred to be sure too) comes in handy. I warn them before going to CF that they will see things that will tempt them to scoff (I know I nearly did when I first saw questions about AIDS, nukes, etc.) but to understand that there are a lot of things under scrutiny at CF that we have always just accepted without ever really thinking about it.
It never fails that they contact me later saying something like "OMG 9/11 was faked?!?! And you never told me?!?!". They of course follow this up by admitting that they would have said I was crazy if I had told them at the start.
Note: Time and place is key. And one on one conversations are best. People are generally terrified of being different, so they won't even be able to think straight if they sense they are being watched and judged. That should go without saying.
Also Note: The 1 in 10 who believe the LAX dummy is real. . . they don't pass go and certainly don't collect $200. Good oxygen is simply wasted on such people.
I only post this because another forum member and I have been corresponding about this issue, and I occurred to me that others may benefit from it as well.
That said, I recognize this might be the wrong thread for it. So if it needs to be moved then fine by me. It can be picked up elsewhere. I'm certainly curious to hear about the experience of others in this regard.