roastrunner wrote:Deborah Koban
. I was just surprised that there would be a real person in the news directly related to a vicsim. Sorry for the tangents. This was a thread about the simulated victims of 9/11 and I figured I'd point out a recent story in the media. That's all.
Is it me, or does 'Joe' seem to be pointing with his left hand to 'Deb's' jumper and its 'plane' motif?simonshack wrote:*
Just a few FACTS:
On the official VOICES OF SEPTEMBER 11 memorial site,"Deborah Kobus" has one - and only one - guestbook tribute entry, by one "Joe Jacinto", which says:"Still thinking of you everyday.....I MISS YOU MY DEAR FRIEND."
http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =426701253
And here's the picture which "Joe Jacinto" has uploaded on that tribute page. I suppose it is meant to depict Joe Jacinto and his dear friend Deborah Kobus...
There is no "Deborah Kobus" who died in 2001 listed in the SSDI. However, as many as 8 people with the surname "KOBUS" are listed in the SSDI as having died in the year 2001:Ambrose F. Kobus
Veronica C. Kobus
Lorayne A Kobus
Ruby P. Kobus
Casimir S. Kobus
Barbara H. Kobus
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... 0&gl=&gst=
simonshack wrote:On the official VOICES OF SEPTEMBER 11 memorial site,"Deborah Kobus" has one - and only one - guestbook tribute entry, by one "Joe Jacinto", which says:"Still thinking of you everyday.....I MISS YOU MY DEAR FRIEND."
Today is the 6th year since I last heard from you. You called me at the St. Regis, Aspen (at work) Sept 10, 2001 Monday at 9AM. I saw your number appeared in my caller id but let the voice mail picks it up. I called you right away and you told me to have a great day and we'll catch up later.
Today, September 10, 2007. 9AM. My phone at work rang 3 times and I picked it up and said hello but there's no answer from the other end...I looked at my called ID and it is an unknown number from New York City...I just sat there and cry. My mind instantly replayed the very first moment when we first met in Aspen. My buddy Alex told me that we have a house guest from New York. We hit it off right away, I felt that we've known each other for years.
Our little road trip to California was fun. Dropped you to your friends house in Arcadia,CA while I visited my mom in LA. On our way back to Aspen, you told me that you always wanted to see Las Vegas, so I took you there. In return, you took me up to the mountains and tought me how to ski....
My friend, thanks for calling...and letting me know that you're there!
Joe Jacinto, Phoenix, AZ
I remember our trip to Ireland in 1987, because I went this past summer. Missed, but not forgotton.
Miss you,and love you, Debbie your longtime friend from Wisconsin,Dawn Paulke
Saw the lights tonight & thought of you & my other friend that we lost
Debbi K, Brooklyn, NY
To Debbie's memory, family and friends:
Today marks 12 months since you've been gone. I watch the tributes and the memorials on TV and when someone mentions the WTC I think of you and your wonderful smile.
Yes, we worked together, but if you know Deb...she always made it a point to know the person and not just the "fellow employee".
I worked in fire and I am now in law enforcement. The losses have been great. Of all the funerals.. I think of Deb.
May God hold you in the palm of his hand, look down upon you and say, "I broke the mold when I made your smile!"
The thoughts and prayers of the Landrys go out to Deb's family and friends, as we know there are many!
Brian, Sara, George and Grace Landry
Brian Landry, Nashua, NH
No other entries here, I cannot believe it. To Deborah - everyone's thoughts are with you and the others in heaven...Requiem, rest in peace.
Claire Hogan, Sydney, Australia
Ferretti was working as a Computer Engineer in the North Tower of the World Trade Center on the day of the attack. After feeling a rumble in the building, he and his co-workers evacuated the building and soon learned that a plane was the cause of the tremble. After the second plane impacted the South Tower; Ferretti realized that this was no accident. Ferretti spent the next few days digging through rubble and sleeping on the streets to stay close in case he could help any fellow survivors.
Dan Aykroyd and Paul Ferretti of the Blues Brothers Soul Band perform after a Dan Aykroyd bottle signing of Special Crystal Head Vodka at Stache on March 20, 2015 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
simonshack wrote:*FATHER JUDGE'S staged/fake rescue pictorial
Kevin Allen, of the Office of Emergency Management, came all the way from Crown Heights, Brooklyn, that morning and reported to the OEM command bus on the far side of the Church Street Post Office.
The team then accepted a godsend on the balcony overlooking West and Vesey.
One of the Chiefs just said we're not going to leave him here. We just picked him up and went up the stairs we came down. I can't tell you how we got outside. [It] was still dark. We ended up in front of-- we ended up on the west face of 6 World Trade Center, which happens to be up on a pedestrian walkway which is like three stories up. We had no way to get down. So we were still carrying the chaplain. We come around on the Vesey side of this pedestrian walkway.
We found Father Judge, who was dead. We moved out of the lobby. We went up the escalator to the -- I guess that's the concourse level up there, worked our way through six, around the outer part of six. Then we proceeded down a stairway and escalator down into the -- this is on the Vesey Street side. We proceeded down to the street level. We were at West Broadway and Vesey. We turned father Judge over to EMS.
We proceeded towards 5 World Trade Center, where we met OEM representative Kevin Culley, along with a couple of Port Authority police who were carrying who we believed to be Mychal Judge on a chair. We immediately checked for some sort of pulse, found none. We called for EMS. They responded with a backboard. We put Father Judge on a backboard.
“We felt this huge shake, the whole ground was shaking,” said Allen. “I guess that’s when the south tower came down. We got in the bus, behind the building, and that’s what saved us – that post-office building.” The OEM team fanned out and were stunned to hear the voice of their boss, Calvin Drayton, the first deputy commissioner, calling for help over the radio. But no one could discern his location. On his way searching for Drayton, Allen saw three men carrying a body. He pitched in.
We went up the steps and I remember looking up because one of the firemen was yelling at a photographer.
One of the things that made 9/11 different from many of the battlefields where Nachtwey has worked for the past 30 years was that he wasn’t seeing the bodies of the dead. “The absence of bodies put your heart in your throat, understanding how great the loss must be. There was no one to rescue, no one to treat. They were all underneath the wreckage, and they were all dead.”
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