MISSING!

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Re: MISSING!

Postby antipodean on December 23rd, 2011, 11:48 pm

HonestlyNow wrote:How did my last post get deleted, may I ask . . .

me, as I facetiously asked . . . wrote:And yet, if they were unalphabetized, how would someone who might know someone who might be missing find that person's poster, if they were all jumbled up??


It's not a shrine, the idea of publicly displaying a missing person's picture, is to hopefully jog the memory of someone who possibly may have seen this person alive after 9/11, or knew their where abouts immediately prior to 9/11.
So they would be randomly placed not alphabetically. You wouldn't visit the wall of the missing, being only interested with those missing that begin with a certain letter of the alphabet.
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Re: MISSING!

Postby lux on December 24th, 2011, 2:16 am

^ If you're referring to my use of the word "shrine," it was intended as sarcasm. I know what their purpose is supposed to be. <_<
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Re: MISSING!

Postby nonhocapito on December 24th, 2011, 3:00 am

lux wrote:They are just sad and emotion-evoking and that is the real purpose of them.


True but with 9/11 it was certainly more than that, as the missing walls were meant to support right away the idea of the mass of people dead because of the attacks. The missing fliers appear to have been an integral part of the simulated victims scenario. Before the digital reality of the vicsims, and before the actors/family victims, this was probably the first appearance of the vicsims into reality.

This, assuming these fliers were really posted around the city, and the pictures themselves of the missing walls aren't faked. But I guess it makes sense that the plan included posting some fliers in reality, to support the illusion of the large numbers -- too bad given the hollywood mentality behind 9/11, everything was exaggerated for dramatic effect, and we are left with nonsensical images of these walls covered with fliers up to the brims, which, as brilliantly explained by Simon and others on this thread, makes absolutely no sense.

And I insist on the height up to which the fliers were allegedly posted.
Imagine the scene for a second: a victim's relative coming all the way from Hoboken with a ladder to post a flier so high up that nobody could read it. Good one.

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Was a "person with camera" (once again) included in the picture as a psychological device to make us believe that "everyone saw and documented" the scene? Is this clue telling us that this picture is in fact completely fake?
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Re: MISSING!

Postby lux on December 24th, 2011, 3:34 am

nonhocapito wrote:
True but with 9/11 it was certainly more than that, as the missing walls were meant to support right away the idea of the mass of people dead because of the attacks. The missing fliers appear to have been an integral part of the simulated victims scenario. Before the digital reality of the vicsims, and before the actors/family victims, this was probably the first appearance of the vicsims into reality.


True but to what end? I believe it was to the end of an emotional reaction in the public. An intense state of feeling gravely wronged by a certain "enemy." A wrong that demanded retribution and a new and darker outlook on the world. It was to be "the day the world changed forever" in the minds of Americans.
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Re: MISSING!

Postby SmokingGunII on December 24th, 2011, 10:56 am

Good to see this thread bumped.

One should also remember that not only did the perps create these ridiculously staged scenes, they also had people create memorial murals on pavements & walls. Indeed, one wonders who was responsible for making Washington Square the hub of the candlelit vigil?



PS: Can anyone explain why the number "11" has its own poster on the photo above or is this more subliminal code?
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Re: MISSING!

Postby pov603 on December 24th, 2011, 11:26 am

reel.deal wrote:
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In the same way that there are '11' vicsims being shown? [though the one in the middle has two people in the photo]
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Re: MISSING!

Postby icarusinbound on December 24th, 2011, 1:19 pm

nonhocapito wrote:Image
Was a "person with camera" (once again) included in the picture as a psychological device to make us believe that "everyone saw and documented" the scene? Is this clue telling us that this picture is in fact completely fake?


I'm having difficulty identifying the spectator's video camera. It's got a characteristic Sony-named handstrap guard, and in 2001 would probably have been Hi8 format. It's like a CCD-TRV88 (see http://www.manualowl.com/m/Sony/CCD-TRV88/Manual/59025), but appears to have far too much silver-grey molding around the lens, unless it's some form of after-market add-on. The camera is shown as having a *huge* non-standard sensitive cardoid microphone of a design normally intended for use in far-off low audio recording...it serves here as an unsubtle pointer in towards the subject-matter. I was intrigued as to whether the camera itself might have been a technical anachronism...thoughts? Is there some suggestion of insertion artefacts around her face, and the trailing edge of her right arm, or is this just resolution pixel aliasing, and she's definitely there?

Am I being super-critical?

What is going on with that perspective ramp or bench (or plank?) up from the foreground? How does it meet the convex subway signage? What is happening with that larger 'wide-framed' picture at the focus of the composition? Is there a depth anomoly behind this icon display upstand and the subway signage?

Look at the sunlight squares to the right of the (very large?) orange traffic cone. Why are they not directly matching the skylights? Optically, are they not far too small as projected dilations of light? What is creating that odd 'head+neck?'-shaped shadow within the top of the upper pair, on the sidewalk?

I fully note the observation that the individual fliers/posters go up far too high...such that in fact the upper posters wouldn't be seen by a passer-by at a distance outwith the display down-stand.

And also, the overall effect is too composed, there's not enough jostling for space, not enough overlapping, not enough paper colour variation.....it's actually a bit like a curated display already respectful of itself. And a random sequence of grieving people would start posting from the bottom up, not the top down, and certainly not centred on an eyeline. How are they attached, other than the token large 'bordered', one with black sticky tape?

And where do these compulsory square glass candle reliquaries come from? Whether Norway or New York, they seem to be instantly available, and a totemic necessity....

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SmokingGunII wrote:


PS: Can anyone explain why the number "11" has its own poster on the photo above or is this more subliminal code?

Happenstance subway stance....or.....
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Re: MISSING!

Postby simonshack on December 29th, 2011, 12:23 am

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STEVEN ROSENBAUM IS AT IT AGAIN!

The Rosenbaum clown strikes again...
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He has now produced a "9/11 MEMORIAL APP". Check it out:
http://www.the911memorialapp.magnify.net/

Here's an 11 August 2011 interview with Rosenbaum - about his new 9/11 product:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9slc0Tds2I

Please read about Steven Rosenbaum here - if you haven't done so before: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2349590
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Re: MISSING!

Postby simonshack on January 7th, 2012, 6:00 pm

Youtube user Synthstrumental left me this interesting comment/finding on my YT channel:

Synthstrumental wrote:
"Was just playing Crysis 2, which is set in a not-too-distant future NYC, in ruins (complete with buildings torn apart). In one part of it, I instantly thought of September Clues, when I saw big poster boards set up, with "Missing" posters plastered all over. Talk about continuity of planning across the spectrum of media! I didn't think of taking a picture at the time, or if you even knew about this - or if it was even worth it, but anyway, keep up the GREAT work, Simon & co. :) "


Later on however, he supplied me a link to this image by private message:

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As Synthstrumental rightly comments : Talk about continuity of planning across the spectrum of media!
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Re: MISSING!

Postby Makkonen on January 7th, 2012, 6:32 pm

Wow, that's pretty mind-blowing!

I know this goes way off-topic (in terms of Missing!, but stays on topic in terms of media continuity), but the newest Transformers movie featured some very WTC-esque collapse graphics:

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http://en.paperblog.com/banana-unpeeled-dvd-review-transformers-dark-of-the-moon-78037/
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Re: MISSING!

Postby Tufa on January 7th, 2012, 7:58 pm

If the 9/11 was REAL ... the flight recorders should have survived. If you build flight recorders, and wish to win a contract, you need to meet certain standards!
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There should be some manual or instruction for the next hoax. Take hi-res pictures of any kind of posters with missing people! Also take a complete set of all empty walls, so non-real poster sites can be spotted!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . :wub: :wub: . . . . . . . . .
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Isn't it very nice, that you fix a child drawing of a patriotic nature, and then you take the effort of travelling to Manhattan and stick it up? Isn't that just lovely ?
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Re: MISSING!

Postby simonshack on January 8th, 2012, 9:50 pm

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The career - and antics - of Mr. Steven Rosenbaum never cease to amaze me.

First, please read my last post about the guy to get the full picture of the personnage:
viewtopic.php?p=2364110#p2364110


Then, read about Steven Rosenbaum (founder and CEO of Magnify.net) here: http://www.magnify.net/company/team
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Next, take a cursory look at the dreadfully messy September Clues Magnify.net website (which has been up for years - apparently set up by a longtime September Clues fan by the nickname of "Spiney" - who I have never really trusted/befriended/or been much in touch with - due to his consistently odd/cryptic/ghost-like behavior) :
http://www.septemberclues.magnify.net

Could Rosenbaum himself possibly be behind September Clues Magnify.net ? Well - just a 'funny' thought...

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Now, get this, folks:
Steven Rosenbaum wrote:
"For the past 3 years, I've had the privilege of being able to document the process of planning, designing, and building
the National 9/11 Memorial and Museum."

(...)

"Steven Rosenbaum is an author, documentarian, and filmmaker. His 5-year-long longitudinal study of the design, development, and construction of the National 9/11 Memorial and Museum entitled: "Engaging Absence" will be published in 3 parts. The first element, a photobook, is slated to be released on 9/11/11."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-ros ... rial_Plaza


Wow. The man is truly a Jack-of-all-trades ! <_<
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Re: MISSING!

Postby Farcevalue on January 8th, 2012, 10:39 pm

....Engaging Absence (of verifiable evidence)
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Re: MISSING!

Postby simonshack on January 10th, 2012, 12:54 am

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Here's the congresswoman (Carolyn Maloney) who has raised questions about the 3000 missing victims:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnZuFVZsbt0[/Youtube]

As you can see, she doesn't seem to question the reality of the 9/11 victims at all. What is she on about?
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Re: MISSING!

Postby simonshack on January 10th, 2012, 3:07 pm

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Another "heart-wrenching" wall of MISSING fli(a)rs...

Between 0:56 and 1:13, the camera pans on a section of the wall...
...where several "H" vicsims are nicely assembled in alphabetical order...

Haskell Timothy
Hirai Katsuyuki
Huie Susan
Hague Mary Lou (misspelled "Haque")
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McN1xln3BpQ

Aah...what respectful order and discipline observed by all these grieving families
who rushed to downtown Manhattan with hastily printed fliers of their loved ones... <_<


Well...uh, most of them, anyway...
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