Sting, The Police and 9/11

The most common objection people have to our research: "Too many people would have been involved to pull off such a massive hoax." Well, with trillions of taxpayers' dollars at hand, this operation could certainly afford contracting many individuals (under a gag order and on a need-to-know basis). Meet the real - and unreal - persons, companies & entities assigned to carry out this gigantic, media & military-assisted psyop.

Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby nonhocapito on February 2nd, 2012, 7:11 pm

[The first few posts here come from "fishy music connections" thread. I thought they deserved a thread of their own after the findings started to pile up ~nonhocapito]

Here's another music industry connection that came to my attention recently.

On 9/11/2001, of all days, Sting held an important concert in Italy:

...All This Time is a live album and concert film by Sting, recorded and filmed on 11 September 2001. It was recorded at Il Palagio [Sting's residence on the hills of Tuscany] in Italy in front of a select audience drawn from his fan club and features live versions of Sting's songs from his The Police and solo song catalogue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...All_This_Time


The concert was particularly important because it was supposed to be played live on the italian radio, streamed on the internet, while a DVD and an album were to be made out of it.

The detail about the live stream on the internet sounds a little surprising to me because in 2001 streaming technologies were really crappy -- and anything live would be either very choppy or look very very bad. So I hardly see the point of doing it, especially from the IT undeveloped hills of Tuscany, unless maybe if one knew the internet was about to be knocked out that day anyway.

Among the musicians that rehearsed and were planned to guest star during the concert, was Cheb Mami, whose performance was canceled. I guess the arabic world wasn't very popular that day.

The DVD of the concert comes with a documentary that describes the preparation of the concert during the days leading to it. So we are shown Sting being "shocked" by the events, and the ensuing discussion whether or not to do the concert anyway. This is all happening on the afternoon of 9/11 -- late morning in the U.S. Barely one or two hours after the events.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFLYZdJAtxA

I don't know what to make of all this -- it is anybody's guess. Apparently the concert was supposed to open with "Fragile" anyway, and so it did.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZv2ZiCWP0Y

The selected public came (see picture below), and enjoyed the concert.

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The "select audience drawn from his fan club", from the official DVD

Of course this could all be a coincidence (another of the many), or the date might have been picked following the suggestion of some producer, at the musicians' expense. Sting's connections to the big masonic-zionist world of Hollywood and L.A. are probably multiple. It remains to see how significant they are.

But I certainly don't like seeing the guy using official keywords like "the world has changed", barely hours after the events.
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Re: Fishy Music Industry Connections

Postby brianv on February 2nd, 2012, 8:20 pm

No this isn't a "capture" from "Laurel Canyon" but it might as well be..."

"Copeland was born in Alexandria, Virginia,[2][3] the youngest of four children of CIA officer Miles Copeland, Jr. and Scottish archaeologist Lorraine Adie. The family moved to Cairo, Egypt a few months after his birth, and Copeland spent his formative years in the Middle East. In 1957, the family moved to Beirut, Lebanon and Copeland attended the American Community School there. He started drum lessons at age twelve and by age thirteen he was playing drums for school dances. Later he moved to England and attended Millfield from 1967 to 1969. Copeland went to college in California, attending United States International University and UC Berkeley. Returning to England, he worked as road manager for the progressive rock band Curved Air's 1974 reunion tour, and then assumed drumming duties for the band during 1975 and 1976."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Copeland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Copeland,_Jr.

You will have to copy and paste, it's a malformed URL :rolleyes:
[I corrected it ;) ~nonhocapito]

Edited to include link somehow absent! (my bad, sorry, I inadvertently deleted it while editing the other one! ~nonho)

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Re: Fishy Music Industry Connections

Postby nonhocapito on February 5th, 2012, 2:15 am

Thanks for pointing out an important connection, brianv. Miles Copeland is also mentioned on the wiki of Outlandos D'Amour (the first album of The Police)

With a budget of only £1,500 borrowed from Stewart Copeland's brother Miles Copeland III, the album was recorded at Surrey Sound in an intermittent fashion over six months, with the band jumping in whenever the studio had free time or another band's sessions were canceled. Miles Copeland had promised to pay Surrey Sound £2,000 upon completion of the recording, but didn't give them the full amount until much later.
Miles Copeland occasionally dropped into the studio during recordings, and reacted to what he heard from the group with vehement derision. However, upon hearing "Roxanne" he had the opposite reaction and took the recording to A&M Records the following day, where he persuaded them to release it as a one-off single.


It seems to me another way to say that the CIA had an active role in the making of The Police...

Also, for consideration:

Toward the end of his career, Hubbard was certainly a renegade, far beyond anyone's capacity to control him. But in the 1950s and early 1960s, it's probable that he had support from U.S. intelligence. His early expertise in mind control is curious, as well as his lifetime interest in intelligence tradecraft. Former CIA officer Miles Copeland claims that his CIA colleague Bob Mandelstam made "arrangements" with Scientology and Moral Re-Armament about this time. http://www.webcitation.org/64k793vUm


And interesting ideas: http://www.webanarchy.net/v3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8077
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Re: Fishy Music Industry Connections

Postby nonhocapito on February 5th, 2012, 2:55 am

Another 9/11-Sting link that I completely missed until today!

In September 2001, Sting also took part in the post-9/11 rock telethon America: A Tribute to Heroes singing "Fragile" to help raise money for the families of the victims of terror attacks in the United States. Sting lost a close friend in the collapse of New York's World Trade Center towers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28m ... 9#Activism


Upon little investigation, I find out that this alleged friend of Sting is vicsim Herman Sandler.

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Sting's alleged friend & fake victim, Herman Sandler, from http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =706047438

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Supposedly the same guy. From http://babysteppingmyway.blogspot.com/2006/09/911.html

"He had a favorite expression and he named his boat after it," Mr. O'Neill said. "His favorite expression was `No problem.' It's just that simple. No problem. That's exactly what he meant." http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =706047438


...He was a major supporter of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra and of Itzhak Perlman's music program for talented youngsters in New York.
Sandler also became a vocal advocate of saving the rainforests. The musician Sting placed a death notice in the New York Times, saying that Sandler "championed my endeavors with huge interest, support and indefatigable energy. He was a joy to be with socially, a charismatic personality exuding a sense of fun and enthusiasm for life that shone from his boyish eyes." http://www.nyjnews.com/911victims/view.php?id=204


"Trudie and I lost a friend in the Twin Towers (investment banker Herman Sandler), and singing was the last thing I wanted to do, to be honest with you. I just wanted to crawl into a corner and cry. I put it to the band. I said, 'What do you want to do' And they all said, 'We wanna play.' It was a much more sombre show than what we had planned. But as the concert progressed, the mood changed. We felt we had every right to be there, listening to music, making music, singing; because really it's the opposite of what terrorism wants. Terrorism wants us to be afraid, to be frightened and to be controlled. So even though, at the time, I didn't want to do it, I've had no second thoughts about whether or not it was right to carry on with the show." (Daily Express, Oct 2003) http://www.squidoo.com/Sting-All-This-Time


"Crawl in a corner..." Didn't catch that when you had cameras on your face on 9/11 while you pretended to care about your "joyous occasion" lost! "They all wanted to play..." It didn't take long to convince you, judging from the video above!

And besides, how could you be so sure your friend had died, just a few hours after the events? Who could have told you? To the point of certainty of wanting to "crawl into a corner" because of this?

Whatever. My doubts vanish, how uplifting! As far as I am concerned, this Sting person is a crook, a liar, a propagandist and probably a CIA agent or, if we want to be merciful, a mind-controlled drone or whatever these maniacs call it. To think that I even went to a concert of this guy when i was seventeen! :P
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby hoi.polloi on February 5th, 2012, 8:03 am

How disturbing that I once stayed very close to his property in Bagno a Ripoli for several months!

We don't have a "puke" emoticon on this board, or else I'd use it. <_<

"Call me Sting." What an ass. How about Stink, Gordon?
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby pov603 on February 5th, 2012, 9:52 am

I think the pointing out of his remorse at losing his friend so soon after such an event sums up how fake it all is.

As you have said how could he know only one or two hours after the 'incident' with him all the way away in Tuscany.

Slightly off topic, I once looked at a refurb' project at the second largest private residence in London [the largest being Buckingham Palace] way back in the late 80s.

Sting's residence backed on to this property, apparently it [Sting's] being the original gatehouse to this mansion we looked at.

The only reason I mention it is in passing because as big as his house was, it was tiny compared to the one we were looking around and secondly, because the residence was the private property of the then Kuwaiti Ambassador to the UK and his brother [at least so we were told by our mediator].

Bear in mind this was just before GW1 [Gulf War 1] or should that be G1W1 [George the First's War 1] and the invasion of Kuwait so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Sting knew the residents and the circles they moved around in all the way back then though he had already been famous for over ten years and hence would have moved in certain 'circles' anyhow.
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby nonhocapito on February 5th, 2012, 3:25 pm

pov603 wrote:As you have said how could he know only one or two hours after the 'incident' with him all the way away in Tuscany


yes, we see him in the video I posted above, discussing with the other musicians whether or not to hold the concert.

We have to take into account the different time zone! In italian local time, the attack happened around 2 in the afternoon. We see the discussion going on in broad daylight, so it can't be much later than that: maybe at five in the afternoon? 3 hours after the events?

There is absolutely no way he could have known at that time that his supposed close friend had died or not. I could accept if the friend was on a plane -- it is possible that 3 hours after the events the plane numbers were known (although I doubt it). But since the vicsim is placed in the towers, as it seems, it would have taken Sting days to be informed of this.

Stinking liar...

(...and I am also very surprised by the alleged "select audience". Would any normal person go to a concert on the evening of 9/11? Who were those people in reality?)
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby brianv on February 5th, 2012, 3:59 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
pov603 wrote:As you have said how could he know only one or two hours after the 'incident' with him all the way away in Tuscany


yes, we see him in the video I posted above, discussing with the other musicians whether or not to hold the concert.

We have to take into account the different time zone! In italian local time, the attack happened around 2 in the afternoon. We see the discussion going on in broad daylight, so it can't be much later than that: maybe at five in the afternoon? 3 hours after the events?

There is absolutely no way he could have known at that time that his supposed close friend had died or not. I could accept if the friend was on a plane -- it is possible that 3 hours after the events the plane numbers were known (although I doubt it). But since the vicsim is placed in the towers, as it seems, it would have taken Sting days to be informed of this.

Stinking liar...

(...and I am also very surprised by the alleged "select audience". Would any normal person go to a concert on the evening of 9/11? Who were those people in reality?)


"9/11" was a big day in the pop calendar, Jacko in court for "kiddie-fiddling", his pal McCartney "doing a runner" and taking off from JKF only to witness the smoking towers, Stink doing a select concert! Just like every other random Tuesday!!
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby simonshack on February 5th, 2012, 11:19 pm

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The only two pictures I have been able to find of "Herman S. Sandler" (has anyone found any more?):
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Wow, so Sting was a good friend Herman S. Sandler - one of the Sandler O'Neill company founders - who allegedly lost 66 people on 9/11?...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandler_O% ... d_Partners

..and another "9/11 wounded" company (just like Cantor Fitzgerald and all) which is now thriving like never before?

"Sandler o'Neill's phenomenal post 9/11 success"
http://www.theicor.org/art/present/art/ ... 016sht.pdf


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A bittersweet return
Since then, Sandler O'Neill has not just made a full recovery; it's bigger, better capitalized, and far more capable in more corners of its chosen universe -- banks, thrifts, financial services -- than it was before 9/11. Jimmy won't talk numbers except to say that annual revenues have risen by a factor of "three or four times," and profits "four or five times." Headcount has doubled, and that's the first clue about what's going on here.


http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/ ... ound-zero/


I'm sad. I kinda liked "Walking on the Moon"... :P


(...)
I may as well play

Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)
Keep it up
(Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo)

http://www.elyrics.net/read/p/police-ly ... yrics.html
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby simonshack on February 6th, 2012, 12:28 am

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Oh, look what I found...

"Sandler O'Neill moved in days before the 1993 bombing, but none of the firm's workers were injured in that attack."

http://sandleroneillfamily.com/articles ... 090802.htm


So here's to back up my working theory which is: as ALL the historical old tenants were dislodged from the WTC towers following the first, alleged 1993 "AL QAEDA GARAGE BOMBING" - a handful of new (perp-controlled/invented) companies appeared on the scene to "repopulate" the WTC office spaces.
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby nonhocapito on February 6th, 2012, 4:01 am

simonshack wrote:So here's to back up my working theory which is: as ALL the historical old tenants were dislodged from the WTC towers following the first, alleged 1993 "AL QAEDA GARAGE BOMBING" - a handful of new (perp-controlled/invented) companies appeared on the scene to "repopulate" the WTC office spaces.


I perfectly agree with the theory, Simon. It is the most likely scenario. I also wonder if the Lewinsky scandal was also a way to make sure that the tenants of the white house were dislodged... of course, not to imply Clinton was innocent victim -- but rather that his sympathy and credibility with the american people had to be destroyed to make the election of George Bush more plausible. All this major and minor events prior 9/11 appear really like parts of a concert...

On another note, Sting says that Sandler was a big supporter of his "Rainforest Foundation Fund", which of course now we could investigate in its real light... perhaps a monetary scam, a psychological tool to push guilt-based consumerism and protest culture in certain vain/wasteful directions and/or maybe a way infiltrate areas of Colombia for the known cartel-related reasons...?

But of course we have been instructed to believe that Sting and his wife Trudie Styler are philanthropic activists...

In 2007, Styler and her husband were forced to pay record damages for unfair dismissal after a tribunal found them guilty of breaking employment law in sacking their private chef when she became pregnant. According to evidence presented in court, Styler's chef had been made to work 14-hour days while heavily pregnant. On one occasion, when she was seven months pregnant, she had to take a train and taxi from Lake House to London, costing £148 in travel and £300 overtime, to prepare soup and salad for Miss Styler. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trudie_Styler
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby simonshack on February 6th, 2012, 8:48 am

nonhocapito wrote:But I certainly don't like seeing the guy using official keywords like "the world has changed", barely hours after the events.



Indeed, Nonho, indeed...

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http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/ ... how=139903


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And how utterly shocking to find out who Stewart Copeland's father was...
YIKES! Miles Copeland (July 16, 1916 – January 14, 1991) wasn't just any CIA operative, it seems !!!

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-"Showing promise, he was one of the founding members of the OSS and later the CIA under William "Wild Bill" Donovan;" :blink: :o

"...he was instrumental in arranging Operation Ajax, the 1953 technical coup d'état against the Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh."

-"Copeland admittedly oversaw CIA contacts with the regime and internal opponents including Saddam Hussein and others in the Ba'ath Party."


But you might just as well read Miles Copeland's full wickedpedia page ! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Copeland,_Jr.
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby simonshack on February 6th, 2012, 10:07 am

nonhocapito wrote:On another note, Sting says that Sandler was a big supporter of his "Rainforest Foundation Fund", which of course now we could investigate in its real light... perhaps a monetary scam, a psychological tool to push guilt-based consumerism and protest culture in certain vain/wasteful directions and/or maybe a way infiltrate areas of Colombia for the known cartel-related reasons...?


:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: As Hoi said... Why don't we have a "puke" emoticon ??

STING SPIN - A decade of spin
http://www.rainforestfoundation.com/html/SpinDecade.htm
"Minor 'humanitarian' projects in a few developing countries were financially backed by The Rainforest Foundation, in order to show their goodwill. Meanwhile, a huge proportion of the donated monies went to support lavish offices and staffs in major cities like New York and London, far removed from those in need, all touting Sting and Trudie Styler as concerned humanitarians in their press releases."


Sting's Rainforest Scam Gets Zero Charity Rating
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2 ... -zero.html
"Donors in the past have included Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks and billionaire Ron Perelman." ( :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )


Sting’s Rainforest Charity Rated One Of New York’s City’s Worst
http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/05/07/stin ... tys-worst/
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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

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Re: Sting, The Police and 9/11

Postby pov603 on February 6th, 2012, 4:23 pm

Whilst i am aware that many artistes' works can be 'read' into, it is almost weird now revisiting a random sampling of the Police/Stink's lyrics.
Let alone the name Police, synonymous with authority, Sting as in you've been had[?] etc.
http://www.oldielyrics.com/t/the_police.html
Next To You: I'd rob a bank/Maybe steal a plane./You took me over,/Think I'm goin' insane.
So Lonely: Just take a seat they're always free/No surprise no mystery/In this theatre that I call my soul/I always play the starring role
Truth Hits Everybody[!]: ...
Walking On The Moon[!]: Some may say/I'm wishing my days away/No way/And if it's the price I pay/Some say/Tomorrow's another day/You stay/I may as well play
Hole In My Life: There's something missing from my life/Cuts me open like a knife/It leaves me vulnerable/I have this disease/I shake like an incurable/God help me please
Fall Out: I saw my education/It was my indoctrination/Just to be another parking machine/All my sense was breaking/When I missed those other people/Cause I knew that I was not very clean
Bring On The Night: ...
Message In A Bottle: Sending out an SOS: ...
The Bed's Too Big Without You: ...
Peanuts: ...
Roxanne: ...
Can't Stand Losing You: ...
Born In The '50s: We freeze like statues on the pages of history/Living was never like this when we took all those G.C.E.'s/Oh you opened the door for us/And then you turned to dust/You don't understand us/So don't reprimand us/We're taking the future/We don't need no teacher
Be My Girl: ....
Sally: ...
Synchronicity I: If we share this nightmare/Then we can dream/Spiritus mundi...Effect without a cause/Sub-atomic laws, scientific pause/Synchronicity
Synchronicity II: ...
Walking In Your Footsteps: ...
Message In A Bottle: ...
O My God: ...
De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da: ...
Wrapped Around Your Finger: You consider me the young apprentice/Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes./Hypnotized by you if I should linger/Staring at the ring around your finger./I have only come here seeking knowledge,/Things they would not teach me of in college./I can see the destiny you sold/turned into a shining band of gold./I'll be wrapped around your finger./I'll be wrapped around your finger.
Tea In The Sahara: ...
Spirits In The Material World: There is no political solution/To our troubled evolution/Have no faith in constitution/There is no bloody revolution
King Of Pain: I have stood here before in the pouring rain/With the world turning circles running 'round my brain./I guess I'm always hoping that you'll end this reign,/But it's my destiny to be the king of pain...
Don't Stand So Close To Me[?]: 'Is it something to do with this incident and the songs lyrics which they've used to manipulate Stink?'
Every Breath You Take: Every breath you take/Every move you make/Every bond you break/Every step you take/I'll be watching you./Every single day/Every word you say/Every game you play/Every night you stay/I'll be watching you./Oh can't you see/You belong to me?/How my poor heart aches with every step you take./Every move you make/Every vow you break/Every smile you fake/Every claim you stake/I'll be watching you.
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