"9/11 SURVIVORS"

The most common objection people have to our research: "Too many people would have been involved to pull off such a massive hoax." Well, with trillions of taxpayers' dollars at hand, this operation could certainly afford contracting many individuals (under a gag order and on a need-to-know basis). Meet the real - and unreal - persons, companies & entities assigned to carry out this gigantic, media & military-assisted psyop.

"9/11 SURVIVORS"

Postby simonshack on February 11th, 2012, 11:37 pm

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THE BABY-POWDER ACTORS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTTlIgTuuUw

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My favorite Baby Powder survivor: :lol:
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Direct link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... oo#t=2742s
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9/11 'SURVIVORS'

Postby Utah on April 14th, 2012, 7:05 am

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Another graphic depiction of real 911 victims..the horror!

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"The 9/11 picture I'll never forget (but wish I could)"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ml?image=1

'The empty gurneys, chosen by Taryn Simon (award-winning photographer and New York resident): 'It’s hard for me to cite an image as my memories are bound to the physical experience and news footage, not photos. That said, I remember a snapshot I took in the hours following the collapse of the buildings outside Saint Vincent’s Hospital in downtown New York. They had closed Seventh Avenue so ambulances could get directly to the hospital. There were countless empty gurneys lining the street awaiting incoming patients that never arrived’
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby CTGal1011 on April 14th, 2012, 8:25 pm

If only there had been hijacked planes that crashed into buildings packed to the gills with people. Then, maybe those gurneys wouldn't be so damn lonely.

But hey, at least they had all of the starched whites ready for duty, right?

Wish we had an unphotoshopped picture available of inside any of those ambulances. How many medics were with each vicsim? What were their injuries? X-rays? Bloodwork?

It is just AMAZING that not one nurse, doctor, ORDERLY, lunch lady, custodian and/or laundry person at any hospital receiving vicsims has said anything about it. No vicsims showing their scars. No people who were waiting in the emergency department for a bladder infection or fall allergy shots saw anything. :P
Did all of the vicsims have private rooms? Did all of the vicsims have vicsim roommates? No giftshop purchases? No vicsims toting their IV poles going for a smoke? No vicsims toting their IV poles to the cafeteria? No visitors to see the vicsims? No sign ins? No calling of priests (other than the "dead one" Father Mychal) to give last rights?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on April 14th, 2012, 8:46 pm

CTGal1011 wrote:Did all of the vicsims have private rooms? Did all of the vicsims have vicsim roommates? No giftshop purchases? No vicsims toting their IV poles going for a smoke? No vicsims toting their IV poles to the cafeteria? No visitors to see the vicsims? No sign ins? No calling of priests (other than the "dead one" Father Mychal) to give last rights?


You are talking about sim-wounded, but I think the "wounded" side of the scam was deliberately and blatantly expunged from the psyop. They never even pretended there were civilians wounded anywhere, which, obviously, is an absurdity. Imagine all that debris raining down on manhattan in reality (in an environment not perfectly evacuated in advance, and with a demolition not perfectly under control) how many wounded would have created.

But no, the media immediately told us that there were "no wounded", and that all the people were donating blood for nothing. http://bu.academia.edu/DouglasStarr/Pap ... w_Republic

But it makes sense. I think this simplified the difficult work of controlling the staffs at the hospitals, on top of controlling firefighters and police. If it is true that firefighters and police are often in masonic groups, like I have been reading somewhere, it seems unlikely that all doctors or orderly staff are too. Better to keep em out of the loop. They probably busied themselves with real people in shock for the events, on top of a normal routine, on top of handling the thousands of citizens apparently donating unnecessary blood.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby simonshack on April 14th, 2012, 8:58 pm

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NURSERY (C)RHYMES...


DIANA LA CAROZZA nurse testimony:
At 16secs: "People have seen the pictures" :huh:
At 21secs: "NO ONE CAME". <_<


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIaPwHeup44


LIVE FROM ST.VINCENT's HOSPITAL

At 55secs: "They have received NO new patients since 8:30 this morning - this is very bad news!" (haha, this is BAD NEWS indeed! :lol: )
At 1min:30: "They're ready for patients...they're ready for patients...if some could be brought to them..." :(

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI4pYif87d8

Quite simply, there were NO injured - because the WTC complex was an empty/fully evacuated area - therefore NO ONE got hurt. You know, when you plan to demolish buildings, people are NOT supposed to hang around anywhere near those buildings. It is just common safety measures to NOT LET ANYONE INTO A DEMOLITION AREA. This is the way it has always been - for EVERY PROFESSIONAL DEMOLITION JOB in the history of this world.

9/11 WAS A DEMOLITION JOB! B) (how about that - for brevity?)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby SmokingGunII on April 14th, 2012, 10:03 pm

Let us not forget it was the same scene at the Pentagon....look at the commotion in the background. ;)

"No fatalities to speak of" :P


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFT73dZe1Cc
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby simonshack on April 15th, 2012, 12:05 am

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More BS 9/11 survivor-stories courtesy of ABC: :rolleyes: :puke:

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/September_11/9 ... 4n_nNluqSp

Isn't it funny how, after years of 9/11 Vicsim research (and 60 long pages of this thread alone) we are now left looking at the alleged survivors - having found NO EVIDENCE for anyone of the VICTIMS to have existed? But hey - let's assume that these survivors DO exist (and are traceable, flesh-and-bone individuals, liable to be ruled to appear in a future court of law ). In this case, we should start listing them, one by one. I suggest we start doing just that.

"Keating Crown" - is my first (new) entry - we've heard, of course. of a few more of them (as spread around this forum).
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Utah on April 15th, 2012, 3:32 am

Here's another survivor story, featuring "Ken Summers"
(courtesy of my favorite DI forum shill, apparently posting 'evidence' against the vic-sim theory)


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlcuTor3Zc0



By the way, Ken looks awesome for a guy who says he was "on fire" and blown out a revolving lobby door by a "yellowish-brownish combustible mixture". (Aw shucks, if the survivors say there was jet fuel in the the lobby, there goes the whole no planes/ demolition theory...) B)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Utah on April 15th, 2012, 3:55 am

The horribly burned Harry Waizer...
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article here: http://www.lohud.com/article/99999999/SPECIAL01/609080334/WTC-profile-Harry-Waizer

and also Lauren Manning, like Harry, another Cantor Fitzgerald employee, was also toasted by a fireball in the WTC...
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article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/nyregion/10injured.html?pagewanted=all
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby icarusinbound on April 15th, 2012, 8:34 am

Utah wrote:
and also Lauren Manning, like Harry, another Cantor Fitzgerald employee, was also toasted by a fireball in the WTC...
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article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/nyregion/10injured.html?pagewanted=all


Utah, this article has to be some kind of parody. The sheer number of suspicious aspects in the reported story is crazy, the writer appears to be deliberately pointing-up the impossibility of this woman's story.

Who else agrees? If this were to be used in some kind of pre-trial hearing (as per Simon's comment above) it would be shredded in seconds - assuming proper objective tests of evidence and real standards of justice were being applied.

Follow the link, it's got to be read to be believed (that it's actually been published, I mean)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on April 15th, 2012, 1:31 pm

Chemical Facial Peel

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http://www.lovethatface.com/cosmetic-fa ... peels.aspx

How does survivor "Ken Summers" story destroy the VICSIM postulation, is he dead?
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911 'Survivors'

Postby Utah on April 17th, 2012, 11:04 am

[I think it makes sense to start a new topic, keeping 'survivors' separate from vic-sims. [Mods can fix it or punish me if I'm out of line. :ph34r: ]

nonhocapito wrote:I think the "wounded" side of the scam was deliberately and blatantly expunged from the psyop. They never even pretended there were civilians wounded anywhere, which, obviously, is an absurdity. Imagine all that debris raining down on manhattan in reality (in an environment not perfectly evacuated in advance, and with a demolition not perfectly under control) how many wounded would have created.

But no, the media immediately told us that there were "no wounded", and that all the people were donating blood for nothing. http://bu.academia.edu/DouglasStarr/Pap ... w_Republic

But it makes sense. I think this simplified the difficult work of controlling the staffs at the hospitals, on top of controlling firefighters and police. If it is true that firefighters and police are often in masonic groups, like I have been reading somewhere, it seems unlikely that all doctors or orderly staff are too. Better to keep em out of the loop. They probably busied themselves with real people in shock for the events, on top of a normal routine, on top of handling the thousands of citizens apparently donating unnecessary blood.


I tend to agree with this assessment, but it would seem that they are now changing the story...

Released in 2011, '911 Emergency Room' looks like a pretty audacious propaganda effort meant to push the idea of lots of 911 injured, going as far to assert that "thanks to the initiative of ER doctors, nurses, and paramedics, thousands of lives were saved on 911." (45:47)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o05yEgMxKuQ

Nothing earth-shattering here: More "never before released " 911 footage that looks like dramatic re-enactments and training exercises, a few dubious shots of 'wounded', and a handful of hospital staff and 'survivors' acting out the drama for the masses.
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby nonhocapito on April 17th, 2012, 9:16 pm

In fact I must correct my previous statement: Some wounded stories were given, even very early, obviously. But it is clear that, regarding what was happening in the hospitals, the psyop had to contain the drama and not even try to enact the arrival of wounded people to real hospitals requiring actual medical staff to lie about it, pretending to be overwhelmed by them.
Instead, all they had were a few scenes filmed in studio showing the same few actors in hospital pajamas.

This first of the videos below, from ABC, features "Marlene Cruz" interviewed "from Bellevue", of all New York hospitals (Bellevue is traditionally the New York hospital for mental patients, like every Woody Allen fan knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellevue_Hospital):


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGZYP--wz0

Notice how they placed the "Bellevue" sign behind her in case we wanted to doubt she was really there. :D How would that ever happen in reality?

The following one, from NBC, is famously hilarious for the incredibly bad acting, and the atrociously bad video quality -- for no apparent reason.
It also features "Marlene Cruz", along with "Arthur Del Bianco" and "Hursley Lever", and it is also "from Bellevue":


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5qVkJ0-hs

The third video is from CBS, must also be "from Bellevue", and also features one of the same actors from the previous video, "Arthur del Bianco" (whom we see "reunited with his wife" :puke: ).
This video reassures us of the line given by the psyop: hospitals are not receiving wounded because there are none.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpTcpCOwBwY

(Not surprising to note how all these videos were and are still largely used to fuel fake "truther" theories about the "inside job" and the "explosions", as if the accounts were authentic. This is understandable, since nothing is given for nothing: I am giving you a few crumbs of conspiracy, as long as you believe these people were really wounded and escaped from the collapsing WTC.
Besides, those "who want to know the truth" would expect from such first-hand survivors exactly this kind of contradicting, half-revealing stories. Never mind the fact that, in reality, TV would never interview anyone with a contradicting, half-revealing story to tell.)
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby Utah on April 18th, 2012, 6:02 am

nonhocapito wrote:all they had were a few scenes filmed in studio showing the same few actors in hospital pajamas.

It does seem rather pathetic given our perpsective today, doesn't it? This is best they came up with ? Obviously, they never anticipated the level of scrutiny we are now bringing to the table. No wonder they are trying to change tactics with the "hordes of injured" story put forth in the 911 ER piece.

nonhocapito wrote:This first of the videos below, from ABC, features "Marlene Cruz" interviewed "from Bellevue", of all New York hospitals (Bellevue is traditionally the New York hospital for mental patients, like every Woody Allen fan knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellevue_Hospital):


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGZYP--wz0

Notice how they placed the "Bellevue" sign behind her in case we wanted to doubt she was really there. :D How would that ever happen in reality?
Well, to be fair, it is television, and news is always staged as entertainment, even in the case when its not total BS. Bellevue Hospital is an amusing choice.The name is synomous with mental instablity for many New Yorkers and Woody Allen fans. Maybe our perps have sense of humor. Or were the 'survivors' driven mad by the silliness of it all? :wacko:

nonhocapito wrote:(Not surprising to note how all these videos were and are still largely used to fuel fake "truther" theories about the "inside job" and the "explosions", as if the accounts were authentic. This is understandable, since nothing is given for nothing: I am giving you a few crumbs of conspiracy, as long as you believe these people were really wounded and escaped from the collapsing WTC.
Indeed! The psy-op game plan clearly included many such little conspiracy nuggets built into the narratives of planted witness (different size planes,planes with no windows, bombs in the building, etc) and even sending forth a few 'truther'-oriented 'survivors' like William Rodriquez. (It sort of reminds me of how the collapse animations have mysterious flashes, horizontal ejections, smoke monsters, and other breadcrumb trails to endlessly distract truth-seekers and herd them away from the real conspiracy- The MEDIA HOAX -and into the '911 'Truth' offered by gatekeepers Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, Richard Gage, etc.)
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby simonshack on April 18th, 2012, 11:14 am

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I can just see the briefing these poor, third-rate actors were given:

"Ok, guys - remember: We need you to keep reiterating, in a way or another, these three concepts:

1: You were inside the WTC - and struggled heroically to get out - or helping people get out
2: You SAW two passenger planes crashing and burning inside the building
3: You SAW people jumping out of the building - to a horrid death

Ok? ACTION!"
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