"9/11 SURVIVORS"

The most common objection people have to our research: "Too many people would have been involved to pull off such a massive hoax." Well, with trillions of taxpayers' dollars at hand, this operation could certainly afford contracting many individuals (under a gag order and on a need-to-know basis). Meet the real - and unreal - persons, companies & entities assigned to carry out this gigantic, media & military-assisted psyop.

Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby simonshack on June 22nd, 2012, 12:23 am

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Oh my gosh, yes...

The "Tom Canavan clip" is one of my favorites ! :lol:

I mean, just consider these few points:

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As 'crazy' as it may sound to newcomers to Cluesforum, our half-decade-long research has consolidated our initial suspicion that ALL EXISTING VIDEO CLIPS OF 9/11 (planes crashing, towers collapsing, wounded survivors interviews, etc...) are nothing but parts of a "Hollywood" production designed to simulate the events of that 'fateful morning in Manhattan'. No imagery of 9/11 - NONE - can be trusted as being real depictions of the events of September 11, 2001. As long as this is not obvious to everyone, the 9/11 hoax will live on - and will be crystallized in history books according to the wishes of TV and Hollywood.

In fact, our battle here on Cluesforum is all about preventing these deceptive antics to succeed. I personally believe this is a noble endeavor - however thankless and unrewarding it may be, due to the vast masses of TV-addicted people of this world. In my mind, television is by far the most dangerous and mind-numbing 'drug' of our times - and much more so than what the common man is willing to admit.

But let's keep up our efforts - I'm sure we're onto some giant leaps for mankind! :P
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby Utah on June 22nd, 2012, 5:31 am

Tom "Ketchup Face" Canavan, still at it 10 years later... :puke:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BCU3XEU70I

Also, for laugh, check out this account of his ordeal from the first annual propaganda fest in 2002..
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002-09-05-miracles-usat_x.htm
Canavan was knocked face-first to the ground and engulfed by smoke and debris. He opened his eyes but couldn't see. He listened but couldn't hear.

I'm dead, he thought. He considered what it was like to be dead: It's not so bad.

Then he tasted dirt. His mouth was in it.

He smelled smoke. His pants were on fire
Can't imagine why....<_<
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby SmokingGunII on June 22nd, 2012, 12:06 pm

So Jean worked on the 81st floor & Tom on the 47th? 8+1+9 4+7 =11. Who would have thunk it? :P
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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

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Re: 9/11 'Wounded survivors'

Postby MrSinclair on July 30th, 2012, 3:27 am

Here is the sad and sordid tale of the "only 9.11 responder yet to settle." His photo is so realistic it almost looks sort of real.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... deZNXDLJ5H

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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby simonshack on September 7th, 2012, 2:00 am

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TONY CIARNELLA:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bz2kP_OhWE

GREG CHERRY:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZomqWrnnM

I really don't know what to comment here, other than: if you can't see how formidably phony and fake these two 'interviews' are - there's little chance you will ever wake up to the fact that the entire 9/11 (psy)operation was staged - from A to Z.
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby Viterbi on September 7th, 2012, 7:43 pm

simonshack wrote:+

I really don't know what to comment here, other than: if you can't see how formidably phony and fake these two 'interviews' are - there's little chance you will ever wake up to the fact that the entire 9/11 (psy)operation was staged - from A to Z.


In the "Greg Cherry" interview there are two black FBI or police agents clearly listening to the story that the "survivor" is telling on camera, maybe to test if it's OK. They try to hide their faces with some towels but it's something so obvious (one of them, with a walkie-talkie in his hand, even looks directly to the camera on 1:19) that the cameraman should close the shot during the last part of the scene.

It is something that is very common in the scripted media "interviews" of 9/11: the "handlers" or "observants" watching the scene and, sometimes, being part of it. One of the most blatant cases is during the first "interview" that Rick Leventhal made in his "live from Church Street show" in FOX News (since 2:32 in the video). In fact, this was the scene that started the show.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZT6GHo6Fbg

A "rookie" policeman who has survived the catastrophe of the first collapse as if he was in a "surreal movie" has perhaps not studied very well his lines and screws the script.

First (3:26) we can see a more experienced policeman who appears to listen what his mate is saying about the explosion or "collapse". The "rookie", doubting, says that a explosion caused the "collapse".

But he screws definitely the script when he says that there were "not many civilians " near the Towers when the first "collapse" happened (3:37), only 100-150 "law enforcement" people. He is first interrupted by some guy out of scene and another guy with yellow shirt and coat (whom we can see in the beginning in the background near the mysterious van parked near the "evidences" of the plane crash), suddenly appears in scene (which forces a cut to the PIP before the FOX anchor tries to interrupt the scene).

And when Leventhal has finished the "interview", the yellow shirt guy goes on berserk mode and says some angry words on camera to the bad acting policeman before taking him out (3:59).

What an incredibly clumsy scam!
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby Utah on September 8th, 2012, 5:21 pm

Viterbi wrote:
simonshack wrote:+

I really don't know what to comment here, other than: if you can't see how formidably phony and fake these two 'interviews' are - there's little chance you will ever wake up to the fact that the entire 9/11 (psy)operation was staged - from A to Z.


In the "Greg Cherry" interview there are two black FBI or police agents clearly listening to the story that the "survivor" is telling on camera, maybe to test if it's OK. They try to hide their faces with some towels but it's something so obvious (one of them, with a walkie-talkie in his hand, even looks directly to the camera on 1:19) that the cameraman should close the shot during the last part of the scene.

It is something that is very common in the scripted media "interviews" of 9/11: the "handlers" or "observants" watching the scene and, sometimes, being part of it. One of the most blatant cases is during the first "interview" that Rick Leventhal made in his "live from Church Street show" in FOX News (since 2:32 in the video). In fact, this was the scene that started the show.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZT6GHo6Fbg

A "rookie" policeman who has survived the catastrophe of the first collapse as if he was in a "surreal movie" has perhaps not studied very well his lines and screws the script.

First (3:26) we can see a more experienced policeman who appears to listen what his mate is saying about the explosion or "collapse". The "rookie", doubting, says that a explosion caused the "collapse".

But he screws definitely the script when he says that there were "not many civilians " near the Towers when the first "collapse" happened (3:37), only 100-150 "law enforcement" people. He is first interrupted by some guy out of scene and another guy with yellow shirt and coat (whom we can see in the beginning in the background near the mysterious van parked near the "evidences" of the plane crash), suddenly appears in scene (which forces a cut to the PIP before the FOX anchor tries to interrupt the scene).

And when Leventhal has finished the "interview", the yellow shirt guy goes on berserk mode and says some angry words on camera to the bad acting policeman before taking him out (3:59).

What an incredibly clumsy scam!


Little hints of conspiracy like the talkative "rookie" cop reporting "explosions" and the "handlers" lurking about are probably all part of the show. Yet if the "handlers" role is to double as a role player and a script 'continuity supervisor', as the latter, they would indeed be distraught about the bad acting. But how could we expect these underprepared amateurs to give a convincing performance, given such a nonsense storyline!

While some components of the hoax do seem clumsy, some aspects of the plot seem deliberatlely contradictory and ridiculous, perhaps meant to cause cognitive dissonance in anyone who actually thinks about it. The masses are gullible, and swallow the nonsense stories without question. Meanwhile, anyone who tries to actually make sense of the fiasco is going to get led down endless rabbit holes by the "truth movement" or get a migraine trying to make sense of it on their own.

To be fair to the perps, realistically staging the elaborate street scene was a pretty ambititous undertaking. While Levanthal's performance is fairly convincing, the bit players participating in the simulation are far less so. If I had to guess, I'd say that no scripts were passed out for the minor parts, but rather the 'extras' like "Tony Ciarnella" were quickly briefed on their stories:

"Remember, you saw the second plane and hit. And there were body parts everywhere! Don't forget,
1) you saw planes,and
2) you saw bodies,and
3) it was like a movie!"

The "like a movie" bit we hear again and again from different 911 role players was likely included and repeated ad naseum to encourage the mass audience to suspend disbelief and enjoy the show. We americans love getting lost in our movies, and 911 was no exception!
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby simonshack on January 17th, 2013, 1:05 am

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"DEBORAH MARDENFELD"
Survivor with buttocks sheared off by plane debris


This is the story of 'Deborah Mardenfeld' - allegedly "the first to go in and last to get out of hospital due to her horrible 9/11 injuries". This has got to be one of the silliest bunkum survivor-tales of them all. I have compiled a few news excerpts which make for some entertaining reading. Enjoy:

Excerpt from the New York Daily News:
"I had just left the subway, I was in the underground mall and a man told us to go out onto the street," she told the Daily News."I looked up, I saw the second plane hit, I heard someone scream 'Run' and I ran, and that's the last thing I remember," she said.

Her ordeal is beyond agonizing. Mardenfeld almost bled to death that day and needed an immediate transfusion of 31 pints of blood. Her buttocks were sliced off, her back was split open, her intestines were punctured and her legs were crushed and fractured, among other injuries."
Read more here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1147485/posts


Wow. I wonder if someone kept a record of the serial number of that mean plane debris. Must have been some sharp slicer!

Excerpt from the NewsTribune:
"On Sept. 11 she got up early to go to her job at American Express in the World Financial Center, St. John said. "She woke me up to say goodbye and show me she was wearing her favorite shirt I had gotten her," purple with ties at the neck and ruffles at the wrists.

She never came back.

It is still hard for St. John to talk about the hours he spent waiting, calling, hoping Debbie would be among the thousands he could see streaming uptown.

Mardenfeld had taken the subway downtown to the trade center. When she walked out, she saw the second plane hit the south tower. "I heard, 'Run for cover,'" she said. She did, and that is the last thing she remembers about what she calls "the accident." She was struck by large pieces of debris, perhaps the landing gear from the plane. Good Samaritans kept her from being trampled and eventually flagged down an ambulance.

When St. John reached her, talking his way through barricades, he recalled, "only her hair was recognizable."

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2002/09/1 ... rylink=cpy


Ok, wait a minute: so her boyfriend waited for hours waiting and calling - but when he finally got to her ... he had to "talk his way through barricades"??? Was Deborah still lying on the street somewhere? Or were there barricades at the hospital? Who writes this stuff? But perhaps the silliest part of this wacky tale is that Deborah was later, apparently, awarded a record $8.6MILLION compensation - yet her attorney "Guy Smiley", we are told, didn't claim a penny of it!!! You see, just like the average ...ehrmm... humanitarian attorney - Guy worked for free! :rolleyes:

Guy Smiley, the lawyer who represented her for free, said the award was ''hard money for her''.
''She'd give it all back in a flash,'' Smiley said.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/ ... oreStories


And from another Newsday article:

"Her attorney, Guy Smiley of Manhattan, did not collect a fee."
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread. ... rney-s-fee


As this blogger rightly observes:

"You Can't Make Shit Like This Up"
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http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.it/200 ... is-up.html

So far, I have not been able to find a single picture of Deborah Mardenfeld. Can anyone help me out?


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One more link to this story: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/9-11 ... php#page-1
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby nonhocapito on January 17th, 2013, 1:25 am

What a beautiful story!
And yes apparently, there is only this one picture of Deborah out there:

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From http://bestofpj.com/2003/still_photogra ... 27235.html

this is so labeled: "Deborah Mardenfeld embraced her fiancee Gregory St. John in a New York City Hospital two days prior to the 9/11 anniversary - Deborah is one of the first victims of 9/11 and is still in rehab from her wounds."

Conveniently enough, this is the only format available: an almost unreadable piece of crap picture.

However, I found something else of interest. Apparently there is a movie out there called "Code Yellow: Hospital at Ground Zero" that came out in 2003:

The story focuses on the efforts to save two people wounded in the attacks: Deborah Mardenfeld and David Bernard.

http://emro.lib.buffalo.edu/emro/emroDe ... umber=2231
("David Bernard": http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =854168529)

As it is often the case with these artificial 9/11 propaganda documentaries, IMDB reports almost no credits for this movie, except for the director and the voice actor: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0461015/
Nobody else is credited, be it for music or camera work or writing. Funny like that.

So all we know is that the movie was acted by Brian Dennehy and directed by Nina Rosenblum, here she is on IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0742466/

Like a good trooper, Rosenblum also made a documentary about the Madrid bombings:
Zahira: 'la que florece'
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443705/

As far as I can tell, neither documentary has a presence on the web, nor on youtube or other channels.


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Nonho, I found this cropped version of "Deborah Mardenfeld" in 'La Nacion':

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http://www.lanacion.com.ar/430345-el-re ... l-hospital
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby Viterbi on January 17th, 2013, 1:49 am

http://www.people.com/people/archive/ar ... 05,00.html

This is the ending of the Mardenfeld story in a October 2001 People article including other bizarre "survivors" accounts:

Doctors warn that Mardenfeld still faces the danger of infection in coming weeks. But if she survives, with luck she will be able to walk again—and dance at her wedding to Greg St. John next year. Dr. Gerald Ginsberg, NYU Downtown's director of plastic surgery, is optimistic. The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this."
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Re: 9/11 'Survivors'

Postby simonshack on January 17th, 2013, 2:21 am

Viterbi wrote:http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20135405,00.html

This is the ending of the Mardenfeld story in a October 2001 People article including other bizarre "survivors" accounts:

Doctors warn that Mardenfeld still faces the danger of infection in coming weeks. But if she survives, with luck she will be able to walk again—and dance at her wedding to Greg St. John next year. Dr. Gerald Ginsberg, NYU Downtown's director of plastic surgery, is optimistic. The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this."


Thanks, Viterbi - you beat me to it. I just made a screencap (from another article) of that pricelessly idiotic "So doc, my butt is smaller?" quote (see below). So please note that the quote that I found is from a different article - which goes to show just how totally scripted (and only slightly modified to suit) all those phony 9/11 news stories were.

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http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-pr ... d=98898952
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Re: 9/11 'SURVIVORS'

Postby nonhocapito on January 17th, 2013, 3:19 am

Here's an excerpt from an interview with Nina Rosenblum.

What are you most afraid of, Nina?

Nina Rosenblum: Well I think a nuclear accident is inevitable.

It's already happened and from what I understand if people don't spend the money to keep upgrading the infrastructure it will happen again. There is a reason that Indian Points is leaking now. They say the infrastructure is older and it is starting to break down and it needs to be repaired. I feel like we are in the grip of madness and if we continue along these lines… It's like road rage, if you keep ratcheting it up something terrible could happen again.

When I did the film Hospital at Ground Zero, I filmed for fifteen months. I filmed everything -- all of the different kinds of work, all of the doctors, all of the nurses, all of the workers, all of the patients and, in understanding that and seeing that this was not the first time that this had happened... ratcheting up the problem, that is very frightening. It hurts my heart.

From: http://www.danaroc.com/inspiring_051506 ... nblum.html


Gee, I wish I could watch this movie. [st]But I suspect that this movie does not really exist[/st]. Scratch that. The movie seems to be for sale on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Code-Yellow-Hospi ... ode+yellow (although I cannot load the trailer).

Allegedly this movie should not only have video pictures of "Deborah Mardenfeld" but also of "David Bernard"...

But a simple look to "David Bernard" tributes and pictures on the voices shows that this 9/11 "wounded" and later vicsim NEVER EXISTED: http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =854168529

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So how could he be featured in a movie?

By the way. This, supposedly, is Dave Bernard's IRS badge:

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From http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... 1216655917

However, according to the bullshit story, Bernard was wounded when

debris falling hundreds of feet smashed into the left side of Bernard's body on the sidewalk below.
He suffered two broken vertebrae and serious spinal cord injuries, leaving him without feeling below the waist. He also suffered punctured lungs, nine broken ribs – two were removed – and a fractured shoulder blade.

From http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =751998934


So, he was hit by debris, not burned. Why his IRS badge should be burned?
WHO WRITES THIS CRAP?? :wacko: :blink:
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Re: 9/11 'SURVIVORS'

Postby MrSinclair on January 17th, 2013, 3:32 am

This buttock business reminds me of that other old joke where the guy at the butcher shop got his ass caught in the meat grinder and got a little behind at his work. :P
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Re: 9/11 'SURVIVORS'

Postby pov603 on January 19th, 2013, 5:49 am

MrSinclair wrote:This buttock business reminds me of that other old joke where the guy at the butcher shop got his ass caught in the meat grinder and got a little behind at his work. :P


And that reminds me of the guy working at the butcher shop got fired after being caught putting his dick into the bacon slicer. What happened to the bacon slicer you may ask? She got fired too...
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