Conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura - 9/11

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Conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura - 9/11


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw
It is amazing how much you can learn about the controlled oposition by watching a mainstream 9/11 documentary.
You can also see how it reinforces the perp’s propaganda that there were victims and that there were planes.
But we know here on clues forum that supposed planes on 9/11 are just cgi animation.
That the victims are fake... the photos of them are photo shopped.
And that the family members are just mere 9/11 actors and bad ones at that.

Here in chapter no1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uw5Bz-oL3w @ 2.47 mintues Jesse meets up with 9/11 actor Donna Marsh O'Connor.
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Here Donna shows Jesse the photoshopped photos of her Vicim daughter Vanessa Langer.
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Here Donna goes into one of her stock standard rants. Of how the goverment kiled her daughter.
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At 3.30. minutes in part no1.. She states..
We never had an investigation. and my kid is the victim of the second “PLANE??!!”
Notice the mention that there were planes?

You really trust the goverment to do an investiagtion Donna? Btw there is new investigation Donna right here on clues forum, And the latest discovery is you are a shameless liar. And reallly bad actor.

Next in chapter 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJPciKKLB68 @3.01 Jesse travels into ground zero and Luke Rudowski brings down some more 9/11 actors to meet him.
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Look at Luke all smug like, body language says he is also a major liar.
Then none other than Bob Mcillvaine jumps into the picture to also do a stock standard rant "imagine losing your son"
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Additional Research....

Learn more on these controlled truthers buy watching this epic movie by simon shack.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE
Learn more on self proclaimed 9/11 truth leader Lucas Rudowski.
here- http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=466

When I found "Lukasz Milewski" in the CNN memorial, I theorized that he was a 'humorous' alter ego of Luke Rudowski:
LUKASZ MILEWSKI (2001?) -------------- LUKE RUDOWSKI (2009?)

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http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /3664.html

At the time, I pointed out this fact :

This is what "MILE"means in Polish:

1."pleasantly"
2."kindly"
3."affably"
4."heartily"

MILEWSKI - RUDOWSKI ....get it ? :P B)

Nice boy vs Rude boy.

Of course, there still remained the difference between the first name "Lukasz" and "Luke".
But now we know that Luke Rudowski's real first name is in fact "Lukasz" (just as "Lukasz Milewski").





This whole affair is just a massive, pathetic joke.
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in the picture where you mention Luke looking all smug, the Italian looking man closest to the camera on the left in the gray hat is an actor, I have seen him before. I cant say where, he was on a reality tv show about something but not an theater actor like most. Ok now I remember where I saw him he's not an actor but a mma fighter he had the belt for a while, Matt Serra at least his doppelganger.
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That Really sucks THEY got to Jesse, he's made some really cool episodes of that show!
SOMEONE from Sept Clues NEEDS to try to get in contact with him, I thought about it over a year ago, anybody know if he has any knowledge of this research?
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Brutal Metal wrote:That Really sucks THEY got to Jesse, he's made some really cool episodes of that show!
SOMEONE from Sept Clues NEEDS to try to get in contact with him, I thought about it over a year ago, anybody know if he has any knowledge of this research?


Yes I have been thinking about that l8tly. For some reason I just don’t really think Jesse is a Shill. Well basically like anyone who isn’t up to scratch with this ground breaking research. He is a below average researcher. But no... For some reason I don’t think he is a shill.
Yes let’s puts some research together, and get in contact with him. I think the 9/11 actors movie, The actual proof of the photo shopped relatives of the actors and also some dirt on them. We should be able to compose something soon.
I would like to make a point that I have learnt over the years researching psy-ops. Using 9/11 as a classic example using resources like….
The Bushs, link with the Bin laden’s. The Thermite, The hijackers were patsies trained by FBI… Anything that basically originated from the government. Is probably pure bull dust. I mean like if they were going to do a conspiracy does not one think every mainstream theory would be misinformation?
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the show is complete nonsense. jesse is clearly one of 'them'. what a fucking tool!
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I think Ventura is just another Charlie Sheen. Celebrities who got sucked up into the 9/11 operation playing a part, maybe because they were disinfo agents from the beginning, or because they were in need of forgiveness for some of their private crimes. Like Steve Buscemi, too. I don't think any of them is being sincere (well duh), because otherwise the sheer idea of fakery, having as they have a hollywood background, would appear to them as clear as day, and they would speak out about it. But they don't and never will. "Maybe he's not informed about it" is not an option.
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nonhocapito wrote:I think Ventura is just another Charlie Sheen. Celebrities who got sucked up into the 9/11 operation playing a part, maybe because they were disinfo agents from the beginning, or because they were in need of forgiveness for some of their private crimes. Like Steve Buscemi, too. I don't think any of them is being sincere (well duh), because otherwise the sheer idea of fakery, having as they have a hollywood background, would appear to them as clear as day, and they would speak out about it. But they don't and never will. "Maybe he's not informed about it" is not an option.
Cheers, Noho.

Thanks for your feedback,
Remember the movie the Jesse Ventura starred in called The Running Man??? IT REEKKS of TV Fakery.....

From wikipedia...The Running Man Film..
2017, the global economy has collapsed and American society has become a totalitarian police state, censoring all cultural activity. The government pacifies the populace by broadcasting a number of game shows in which convicted criminals fight for their lives, including the gladiator-style The Running Man, hosted by the ruthless Damon Killian, where “runners” attempt to evade “stalkers” and certain death for a chance to be pardoned and set free....Meanwhile, Amber begins to question the media's veracity after watching a falsified news report on Richards' capture......
Running out of options, a frustrated Killian uses computer-generated imagery to fake the deaths of Richards and Amber in the final match of the episode, a falsified battle against retired stalker Captain Freedom. (JESSE VENTURA) :o :o :o

Cue for Tv fakery in Strategic Communications Control room...GO!!!


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Sampling origonal photo ready for virtual morph insert...
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Placing virtual morph onto Real life stunt double ready, to Fight Jesse Ventura (captain freedom)
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Configuring TV fakery......
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And Viola.....
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"It is not a Tumo--- Mask..." Eeaghhh!!

Shots taken from this video...

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbRdEyPbeSE

Noho..
because otherwise the sheer idea of fakery, having as they have a hollywood background, would appear to them as clear as day,

Jesse knows all about TV Fakery.. he knew all about it 14 years before 9/11 (1987)
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Let's see about this Jesse Ventura. According to Wikipedia he:

1. is part of some secretive elite military unit,
2. stayed in the military reserves after leaving active duty,
3. uses a fake name,
4. is an actor,
5. brags about "hunting men" but has never seen combat,
6. participated as a commander of a motorcycle gang while still in the military wearing his gang colors on base,
and
7. used a motto that you must "always cheat" for his professional wrestling character, and
8. is a professional politician and media pundit.

So, yes, it seems like "Jesse Ventura" should know a thing or two about being a fraud, a fake, and a liar on TV while being on the government or military payroll.


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James George Janos[3] (born July 15, 1951), better known as Jesse Ventura, is an American statesman, the 38th Governor of Minnesota from 1999 to 2003, Navy UDT veteran, former SEAL reservist, actor, and former radio and television talk show host. As a professional wrestler, he is best known for his nickname, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, and tenure in the World Wrestling Federation as a combatant and color commentator. In 2004, he was inducted into the company's Hall of Fame.[3]

In the Minnesota gubernatorial election of 1998, running as a member of the Reform Party, he was elected the 38th Governor of Minnesota and served from January 4, 1999, to January 6, 2003, without seeking a second term.
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Early life

Ventura was born James George Janos in Minneapolis, the son of Bernice Martha (née Lenz) and George William Janos. His father's parents were from what is today Slovakia, and his mother was of German descent.[4] Ventura has described himself as Slovak.[5] Ventura was raised a Lutheran. Ventura (then still using his legal name of Janos) attended the now-closed Cooper Elementary School and graduated from Minneapolis' Roosevelt High School in 1969.
[edit] Navy career

From September 11, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era, Ventura served in the United States Navy. Ventura graduated with BUD/S class 58 in December 1970[6] and was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12 (UDT).[7] The UDTs were merged with the US Navy SEALs in 1983, 8 years after Ventura had left the Navy.

Bill Salisbury, an attorney in San Diego and a former Navy SEAL officer, accused Ventura of "pretending" to be a SEAL and wrote that Ventura would be blurring an important distinction by claiming to be a SEAL when he was actually a frogman with the UDT. Compared to SEAL Teams, UDTs saw less combat and took fewer casualties.[8][9][10] Following that, Governor Ventura's office confirmed that Ventura was a member of the UDTs. His spokesman stated that Ventura has never tried to convince people otherwise.[8] Ventura stated: "Today we refer to all of us as SEALs; that's all it is."[10]

Ventura has frequently referred to his military career in public statements and debates.[8][11][12] He was criticized by hunters and conservationists for stating in an interview with the Minneapolis StarTribune in April 2001, "Until you have hunted men, you haven't hunted yet."[12][13]

In January 2002, Ventura, who had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam, disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat. He did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, which was awarded to those involved in a firefight or who went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected.[7]
[edit] Post Navy

In 1973, Ventura was released from active duty and enrolled with the Naval Reserves, at which point he was assigned to SEAL Team 1.[2] Near the end of his service in the Navy Ventura began to spend time with the "Dago" chapter of the outlaw motorcycle club the Mongols, in San Diego. He would ride onto Naval Base Coronado on his Harley-Davidson wearing his Mongol colors. According to Ventura he was a full-patch member of the club and even third in command of his chapter. While the club may have been involved in some criminal activity Ventura avoided any problems with the authorities.[14][15][16]

In the fall of 1974, Ventura left the bike club to return to Minnesota. Shortly after his leaving, the Mongols entered into open warfare with their rivals the Hells Angels.[14]

In Minnesota Ventura attended North Hennepin Community College in the mid-1970s.[14] At the same time, he began weightlifting and wrestling. He was a bodyguard for The Rolling Stones for a short time before he ventured into professional wrestling and changed his name.[17]
[edit] Professional wrestling career

He created the stage name Jesse "The Body" Ventura to go with the persona of a bully-ish beach bodybuilder, picking the name "Ventura" from a map as part of his "bleach blond from California" character.[3] As a wrestler, Ventura performed as a villain and often used the motto "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!" Much of his flamboyant persona was copied from "Superstar" Billy Graham, a charismatic and popular performer during the 1970s and '80s.[3][20] Years later, as a broadcaster, Ventura made a running joke out of it claiming that Graham stole all of his ring attire ideas from him.
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From all that stuff you listed Fred I don't see Any concrete proof he's a shill? I like Equinox's idea, give the dude the benefit of the doubt and send him Sept Clues research.... Why would he wanna get to the bottom of Bilderburg? the Free Masons? etc.. Why even discuss and uncover that subject matter on his show? Disinformation??
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the show is reverse propaganda for stupid people. good comedy though.
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New Link for full length propganda, shill jesse movie..


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw
Equinox wrote:Additional Research....

Learn more on these controlled truthers buy watching this epic movie by simon shack.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE






Notice how the concerned truther Family members that appear in "Conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura - 9/11",
Are the exact ones that appear in Simon Shacks Movie... 9/11 Actors. :o :o :o
Nice work on choosing the actors for that movie, Simon. And just fact they have chosen the same actors for the "Conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura - 9/11", movie... Further Reinforces this epic research Exposing the 9/11 fraud that is going is continuing to this day.


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BUSTED!!


fred » August 7th, 2011, 11:45 am
Let's see about this Jesse Ventura. According to Wikipedia he:

1. is part of some secretive elite military unit,
2. stayed in the military reserves after leaving active duty,
3. uses a fake name,
4. is an actor,
5. brags about "hunting men" but has never seen combat,
6. participated as a commander of a motorcycle gang while still in the military wearing his gang colors on base,
and
7. used a motto that you must "always cheat" for his professional wrestling character, and
8. is a professional politician and media pundit.

So, yes, it seems like "Jesse Ventura" should know a thing or two about being a fraud, a fake, and a liar on TV while being on the government or military payroll.


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James George Janos[3] (born July 15, 1951), better known as Jesse Ventura, is an American statesman, the 38th Governor of Minnesota from 1999 to 2003, Navy UDT veteran, former SEAL reservist, actor, and former radio and television talk show host. As a professional wrestler, he is best known for his nickname, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, and tenure in the World Wrestling Federation as a combatant and color commentator. In 2004, he was inducted into the company's Hall of Fame.[3]

In the Minnesota gubernatorial election of 1998, running as a member of the Reform Party, he was elected the 38th Governor of Minnesota and served from January 4, 1999, to January 6, 2003, without seeking a second term.
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Early life

Ventura was born James George Janos in Minneapolis, the son of Bernice Martha (née Lenz) and George William Janos. His father's parents were from what is today Slovakia, and his mother was of German descent.[4] Ventura has described himself as Slovak.[5] Ventura was raised a Lutheran. Ventura (then still using his legal name of Janos) attended the now-closed Cooper Elementary School and graduated from Minneapolis' Roosevelt High School in 1969.
[edit] Navy career

From September 11, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era, Ventura served in the United States Navy. Ventura graduated with BUD/S class 58 in December 1970[6] and was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12 (UDT).[7] The UDTs were merged with the US Navy SEALs in 1983, 8 years after Ventura had left the Navy.

Bill Salisbury, an attorney in San Diego and a former Navy SEAL officer, accused Ventura of "pretending" to be a SEAL and wrote that Ventura would be blurring an important distinction by claiming to be a SEAL when he was actually a frogman with the UDT. Compared to SEAL Teams, UDTs saw less combat and took fewer casualties.[8][9][10] Following that, Governor Ventura's office confirmed that Ventura was a member of the UDTs. His spokesman stated that Ventura has never tried to convince people otherwise.[8] Ventura stated: "Today we refer to all of us as SEALs; that's all it is."[10]

Ventura has frequently referred to his military career in public statements and debates.[8][11][12] He was criticized by hunters and conservationists for stating in an interview with the Minneapolis StarTribune in April 2001, "Until you have hunted men, you haven't hunted yet."[12][13]

In January 2002, Ventura, who had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam, disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat. He did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, which was awarded to those involved in a firefight or who went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected.[7]
[edit] Post Navy

In 1973, Ventura was released from active duty and enrolled with the Naval Reserves, at which point he was assigned to SEAL Team 1.[2] Near the end of his service in the Navy Ventura began to spend time with the "Dago" chapter of the outlaw motorcycle club the Mongols, in San Diego. He would ride onto Naval Base Coronado on his Harley-Davidson wearing his Mongol colors. According to Ventura he was a full-patch member of the club and even third in command of his chapter. While the club may have been involved in some criminal activity Ventura avoided any problems with the authorities.[14][15][16]

In the fall of 1974, Ventura left the bike club to return to Minnesota. Shortly after his leaving, the Mongols entered into open warfare with their rivals the Hells Angels.[14]

In Minnesota Ventura attended North Hennepin Community College in the mid-1970s.[14] At the same time, he began weightlifting and wrestling. He was a bodyguard for The Rolling Stones for a short time before he ventured into professional wrestling and changed his name.[17]
[edit] Professional wrestling career

He created the stage name Jesse "The Body" Ventura to go with the persona of a bully-ish beach bodybuilder, picking the name "Ventura" from a map as part of his "bleach blond from California" character.[3] As a wrestler, Ventura performed as a villain and often used the motto "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!" Much of his flamboyant persona was copied from "Superstar" Billy Graham, a charismatic and popular performer during the 1970s and '80s.[3][20] Years later, as a broadcaster, Ventura made a running joke out of it claiming that Graham stole all of his ring attire ideas from him.

Thanks for that information Fred, Yes Actually reading through that and seeing is pre/knowledge of TV fakery in the movie “The running Man... “
I’m convinced he is a shill, and is probably the worst Disinformation, 9/11 Gatekeeper going around town.

by groovygoolie » July 26th, 2011, 5:34 pm
in the picture where you mention Luke looking all smug, the Italian looking man closest to the camera on the left in the gray hat is an actor, I have seen him before. I cant say where, he was on a reality tv show about something but not an theater actor like most. Ok now I remember where I saw him he's not an actor but a mma fighter he had the belt for a while, Matt Serra at least his doppelganger.
Yes that obvious shill actor.. @ 14.36 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw



He is not Matt Serra.. Image Image

He is.. Manny Badillo
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IcuAkG-2uo

9/11 Manny Badillo, his uncle Thomas Joseph Sgroi was killed in while working at the World Trade Center. He talks about the emotional hardship of the victim's family members and how poorly they're treated. He talks about the importance of supporting the 1st Responders
"ROBERT T. LANE"---------------------versus---------------------- MANNY BADILLO
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Manny (who allegedly lost his uncle on 9/11) is also good at ...uh... raising money - in close complicity with his colleague Lukasz Rudkowski:
"Heather LaMastro has started attacking 9/11 Victims Family member Manny Badillo for being complicit in Luke Rudkowski’s embezzlement of funds promised to 9/11 first responders and for Wearechange New York’s operating costs. In past articles we have shown you that other members of Wearechange New York have begun to question where the money goes."
http://crotchshotradio.com/2010/12/17/w ... ezzlement/

Claims to have lost his uncle Thomas Joseph Sgroi in the 9/11 psy-op. Travels around with the usual suspects holding talks about 9/11 in various forums and on national television.

A search through the Social Security Death Index will give you one hit for T J Sgroi. SSDI says that Sgroi died on 20th May 1999.
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the show is complete nonsense. jesse is clearly one of 'them'. what a fucking tool!
I know the show is pretty cheesy, and a bit of a crack up… at 13.36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw
The Funniest Part in the movie was when they were talking about the thermite being liquefied and painted on the walls.

Jesse—“Alright... any body still got any doubts”
Alex- “It is one thing 2 say this can be liquefied and Used as paint... It is another thing 2 say it was used at the world trade centre site.”

Jesse- “Rodriguez, the janitor... told me construction was a daily thing there... That every floor when a tenant moved out, constructions took place... what happens? There painting... (Makes dumb painting movement with his hand)
And painters could be painting this stuff on and not even Know it!! Imagine if this stuff was painted on buildings in New York, Boston, Washington DC … all over the country…. THAT STUFF COULD BE EVRYWHERE!!!”

That has 2 be the most retarded 9/11 theory I have ever heard... What a tool alright.
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Pro Wrestling and "Reality TV" are probably a great places to recruit or look for these actors.

We've already seen the example of Rachel Uchitel as a reality TV actress, 9/11 actress, and publicity seeker.

We've seen bit-part actors from TV commercials such as Gary Welz. We've seen wannabe actors like Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas (who supposedly approached Robert De Niro with a script?).

We've seen comedians like Bill Hicks/Alex Jones.

We've seen Howard Stern "wack packers" like Paula Gloria.

We've seen unsuccessful musicians (if they're even musicians at all), like "Ace Baker" and Bruce Watson and Andrew Lowe Watson.

We've seen stage magicians like William Rodriguez, James Randi, and the Camera Planet guy.

Pro Wrestlers know they're part of a scripted made-for-TV show and that most of their fans don't realize it (and their true fans in general probably aren't all that bright.) The Wrestlers are used to staying in character even when they're "off-duty" and signing autographs for children and that sort of thing. They obviously have a desire to be seen or be famous and generally lack the household recognition of major stars.

I suspect that Manny Badillo and Jesse Ventura aren't the only "Pro Wrestler" actors in the 9/11 script and that if we look we will find more.
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I'm FULLY aware of who those Actors are and where they've been seen I have watched Sept Clues after all :D
Even so do you think Jesse Himself said "I need to interview this guy and this girl" OR did his team of researchers inquire as to what family members of vicsims to contact? Then Jesse was given a log of what the 911 show was gonna entail? I know it's REACHING but getting somebody in the Media with that exposure to At Least give the research here a GOOD HARD LOOK? Send the show some rebuttal information, what's the worst that could happen? We find out once and for all he IS part of the problem, THEN I'll get on board with everyone else...
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Fred - good to see you back, but please don't promote the Bill Hicks/Alex Jones bollocks. :(
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