David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

How the controlled opposition was designed to be part of the 9/11 hoax

Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby Alfie on September 15th, 2012, 8:50 pm

Simon1961 wrote:I believe David Icke is a very intelligent man.


Beware of false prophets, There are a web of them.

David Icke, Before its news, Anus Jones, Tsarion, Zen Gardner, Natural News, Red Ice Radio(So sad they are wankers too, I really liked them), we are change, Global research, activist post, Ukcolumn, etc etc

They all follow each other, represent each other, follow the daily mail UK headlines and repeat the juxtaposition of we are love they are evil whilst promoting fear porn.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby brianv on September 15th, 2012, 9:02 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
Simon1961 wrote:I believe David Icke is a very intelligent man, researcher but most of all a very good communicator. I think he believes too much that is told to him but is more right than people give him credit for. I saw him being interviewed on "The Project Camelot" series of youtube interviews - mostly phonies of those I have seen. I had previously seen an American predecessor , Jordan Maxwell on the same series. Apparently JM had sponsored DI in some way. DI seemed to use similiar ways of speaking about things as JM. I observed that JM spoke about having the feeling of being protected by invisible forces. DI articulated the same thing. I believe he had this, perhaps subconsciously to his "repertoire". David Icke had based his style on American style "communicators " in the same way the Beatles copied US Rock N Roll and took it back IMO :-)

As British people know David Icke had a sort of mental breakdown. That doesn't necessarily preclude that he did have significant spiritual awakening as well. When interviewed Icke seems to rail-road his views through and talk over those speaking to him without incorporating their views in a "dialogue". He has made money, he is sincere, does have a big ego. I would say he is a brave man.


There is no way David Icke is anything but controlled opposition. He is an agent of propaganda hired to herd dissent and people with questions towards far fetched territories were desire to pursue the truth further or oppose the system is completely exhausted and ultimately lost.

The reptilian angle is a pure hollywoodesque invention that mimics "antisemitism" to pollute completely the discourse over social responsibility, be it of certain categories or classes of humans against others. The culprits offered are instead a race from outer space, and all humans become equally victims of this bizarre intruder... This is a psychological device more than anything. It equates Scientology as a designed system to make alternatives interpretations of the human condition impossible.

As to his interpretation of 9/11, it does not differ from Alex Jones' at all. It is made of the same pre-cooked conspiratorial flavor, whose main purpose is to make the acknowledgment of media fakery impossible.

You are new to this forum, Simon1961, but you should really familiarize yourself with our research not just about 9/11, but also about the controlled opposition that was there since the beginning to make that scam possible down the line. Do this before posting again on this subject, otherwise we end up wasting our time.


Such devastating rationale! Truly appreciated from this quarter.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby Simon1961 on September 16th, 2012, 12:29 am

I know all about false opposition and have witnessed it. I find the knock back a little arrogant - imagining a grandfather figure smoking a pipe, leaning on the mantelpiece and condescending to junior !:-) but appreciate the straight forwardness.

There are shades of grey with Icke and indeed many other personalities. I too like most on here have a "conspiratorial" mind set. I'm also aware that a forum may/will develop it's own centre of gravity - a core conformity that many try to gravitate towards in order to be "accepted" .

I like this forum and in few days my mind has been opened considerably with regard to the space hoaxes and I just been staggered and convinced by the nuke hoax stuff.

On the reptiles. I realise that my position isn't near the forum's centre of gravity but let me briefly say why I believe there is some mileage in it. Let's not forget that Icke isn't the creator of this idea. I will do so in bullet point form:

1/ The existence of flying saucers can't be doubted. Some are human, some are not. There is a strong case for the German's having come into contact with this technology.
2/There is much stuff out there on the ET connection. I say ET as shorthand . They maybe inter-dimensional. Roswell in 1947 has been examined in great depth. Witnesses gave descriptions of the greys . The original "little green men".
3/ I have been convinced by Karla Turner, Budd Hopkins and Jacobs on their abduction work. I also believe Roger Leir's extraction of alien implants on video (can be seen on youtube ) is genuine. I invite people who are sceptical to invest a little time - perhaps you might earn a few debunking brownie points !
4/ Within the abduction accounts, reptiles appear, but not very often. This is my reason for thinking there is something "in it".

As I mentioned earlier I don't subscribe to Christianity, but the idea of "demons" has some merit. We as humans feed off lower life forms in physical terms - might "higher entities" feed of us in some way ? This is only an intuition but I sort of think that we may harvested for our emotions in some way. Can't prove this though :-) I do believe "ET" is a missing factor in all those trying to understand world events. My intention isn't to push this on the forum. I'm here to learn, respect the forum's "centre of gravity" and I will respectfully make sure my hat is off in church !
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby fbenario on September 16th, 2012, 1:34 am

Simon1961 wrote:I know all about false opposition and have witnessed it. I find the knock back a little arrogant - imagining a grandfather figure smoking a pipe, leaning on the mantelpiece and condescending to junior !:-) but appreciate the straight forwardness.

There are shades of grey with Icke and indeed many other personalities. I too like most on here have a "conspiratorial" mind set. I'm also aware that a forum may/will develop it's own centre of gravity - a core conformity that many try to gravitate towards in order to be "accepted" .

The two bolded phrases are beneath you. You wouldn't have bothered posting here in the first place if you hadn't already figured out we care only for pursuing, identifying, and exposing media fakery, and care nothing about anyone's feelings. In other words, we aren't part of the modern "building self-esteem movement". Accept our cogent criticism of your posts, since your words are the only mechanism you have to make clear to us your good faith and maturity, and you'll be treated with courtesy and respect at all times.

If that philosophy STILL strikes you as a core conformity, then I don't believe this is the right place for you. To the extent you do want to live by The Golden Rule, and decide not to waste your own or our time with defensive, emotional, insulting, or repetitious comments, you will do just fine here.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby MrSinclair on September 16th, 2012, 2:43 am

I saw David Icke's live presentation on 911 in 2003 in Boston. It was fascinating and engaging in spite of being quite lengthy. Too bad it turned out to be crap.
While I can accept an ignorant well intentioned David Icke in 2003 the simple fact is that we live in a post September Clues world now and he has chosen to ignore this and thus destroy any possibility of any credibility. It convinces me that he was co-opted long ago and used to distract well intentioned but naive sorts, myself included.
Red Ice Creations as mentioned above has also chosen to ignore September Clues and the Forum. I've written to Henrich several times before I realized he was going to continue to propagate the party line on Norway, 7/7, 911 and the lot making his site a waste of time as well.
I'm still waiting for any prominent truther to recognize this site and change their ways but none that I know of have done so.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby Terence.drew on September 16th, 2012, 2:52 am

MrSinclair wrote:I saw David Icke's live presentation on 911 in 2003 in Boston. It was fascinating and engaging in spite of being quite lengthy. Too bad it turned out to be crap.


Ha! Love it. The truth no frills.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby hoi.polloi on September 16th, 2012, 4:32 am

This forum does not exist to discuss a myriad of paranormal topics. Nor will it in the near future, as far as I understand the collective wishes of the most dedicated members and administrators.

We are talking about cold, hard, facts. Forensics stuff.

Icke seems to convince everyone that forensics, facts and other science about the nature of our social problems do not - philosophically - even exist!

I will say that Icke calls TV "the movie of life" and says it's not real, and that alone is a refreshing tidbit. But when he goes on to say nothing is real, how does that help the average person (who is exploring the physical world) find a sandwich, a bed, and refuge from criminal minds with technological power?

Sticking our heads in the sand won't, I guess, make the faking of our news stop. Personally, I cannot condemn anyone for a free flow of (even preposterous) ideas, but nor does it really help us identify the problem. Here is the real problem: all the tributes, memorials, history textbooks filled to the brim with what the criminal media and its corporate cronies created:

- fake nuclear weapons
- fake science
- fake astrophysics
- fake physics
- fake satellites
- fake terrorists
- fake victims
- fake families
- fake history
- fake present
- fake future
- fake understanding of human behavior
- fake understanding of humanity in general

The lies are quite grand, and it seems anything people generally go along with they will exploit. So while Icke will cry "wolf" frequently, he rarely identifies - as we do - the actual people running about in sheep's skin.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby Simon1961 on September 16th, 2012, 11:51 am

This business of quoting what people say on forum's as debating "bullets" is very old hat. I did it myself years ago but go fed up with "internet tennis". I would never go to a pop concert to worship or to a David Icke "concert" or take on the role of a Beta male ganging up to try and impress the Alpha.

I believe I gave a measured evaluation of Icke. Just my opinion.

I'm here to learn for the most part. Have given a few "out of the box" beliefs that aren't new but obviously don't find favour here. That's fine. I restate my position that I won't push it. For my own part like any of you I can decide what is a cold hard fact.

Is this a place for me ? Yes because I can learn here and it's not really a "place" is it ? I will spend a few weeks reading and if not banned will possibly make a few points on things - then move on - then return every so often.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby hoi.polloi on September 17th, 2012, 6:28 am

It's "old hat" to make points? And you're critiquing me on my post structure when you can't even write a sentence without inserting random characters into it? So you're here to make "sloppy" comments, dismiss, refuse or insult comments on your comments, then act like you actually care about your opinion, but move on to another post?

How is that different from trolling? Or being a lame issue-dodging politician?

This isn't a political game. It's our forum. If you don't want comments, use a blog and turn off commenting.

Furthermore, your grammar seems to be deteriorating by the moment. Are you on some kind of medication that prohibits you from sounding a bit more legitimate?

You have come here to say the reptillian overlords and alien abductions and demons have merit. But you dismiss criticisms of the mouthpiece of those very things: a one Mister David Icke. Which is the topic at hand. Not the actual things he discusses but himself as an "alternative media" spokesperson.

You all around give a very negative impression of yourself, the believability of your personality and you don't seem to really even believe in the opinions you express but just state them as if it is your mission to cause confusion and obnoxiousness. You are banned. Feel free to read the forum and keep your lousy comments to yourself.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby fbenario on September 18th, 2012, 1:26 am

hoi.polloi wrote:You have come here to say the reptillian overlords and alien abductions and demons have merit. But you dismiss criticisms of the mouthpiece of those very things: a one Mister David Icke. Which is the topic at hand. Not the actual things he discusses but himself as an "alternative media" spokesperson.

You all around give a very negative impression of yourself, the believability of your personality and you don't seem to really even believe in the opinions you express but just state them as if it is your mission to cause confusion and obnoxiousness. You are banned. Feel free to read the forum and keep your lousy comments to yourself.

Thank you, Hoi. I've been waiting a long time for the forum to shorten new members's leash. I believe the Admins have good hearts who want to help people learn, as I do, but over time we've been too lenient. I'm with you on all your decisions.

David Icke > Advice Kid.
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Re: David Icke - A Freemason Shill or Snake Oil Salesman?

Postby Xious on August 18th, 2015, 2:02 am

I would say that he is a Sociopathic Liar.

I just finished watching Chris White's "David Icke Debunked". Wow, yet another one of his very well done documentaries.

I hope Icke gets a chance to watch it. :D
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