RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

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RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby simonshack on September 21st, 2014, 7:53 pm

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RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

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I just realized that this "TRUTHERS AND SHILLS" section of our forum lacks a thread dedicated to the most spectacularly bold / blatant yet insidious "truther"-shilll of them all : the alleged "amateur 9/11 videographer" Rick Siegel. I was reminded of the clown today by the good Joan Edwards over at Fetzer's "REAL DEAL" blogspot. Hopefully, you will all enjoy reading this little piece of historical 'drama' leading up to the gradual exposure of the fake 9/11 imagery - which, as we will see, must have caused some panic among the MSM gatekeeping crowd...

Little did I know about this fellow Rick Siegel's background as I signed up to "911researchers.com" - a discussion forum that Rick had founded. This was back in late 2006 / early 2007, as I was still working on September Clues v.1.0 (which I first released - on Livevideo.com - on June 5, 2007). At the time, Siegel's forum was one of only two places on the internet (along with Killtown's "911movement.org" forum) to allow any discussions about image fakery, or rather, about "NPT"(No-Plane-Theory") as it was called back then.

All I knew about Siegel at the time was that he had produced a (crappy) 9/11 'conspiracy'-movie named "911 EYEWITNESS" - which starred Siegel himself in the guise of a "private citizen who - allegedly - filmed the WTC1 collapse from Hoboken, New Jersey". In fact, Siegel's collapse imagery was - at the time - the ONLY EXISTING supposed "amateur" collapse 'video' with a name attached to it. Yes, there were maybe 2 or 3 other blurry (alleged "amateur") collapse videos circulating back then, but they were anonymous (uncredited) and featured (Steven Rosenbaum's) "CAMERA PLANET" watermark.

However, I soon started wondering why Siegel, the "911researchers.com" administrator never seemed to perform any research at all. All he did was posting silly gossip, vapid or/and provocatory comments - and whatnot. But since this was one of only two forums which tackled issues related to my own 9/11 research, I hung around there hoping to get some of my ideas across to its readers - and to learn good stuff from the forum's best contributors. And suddenly, around mid-2007, all hell broke loose... Please stay with me, because this gets pretty funny - knowing what we know today here on Cluesforum.

As it happened, Siegel had started viciously attacking the author ("Sophia Shafquat" - aka "Sofia Smallstorm") of another 9/11 'conspiracy' movie, "911 MYSTERIES". Siegel accused Sofia (who had used parts of his purported WTC1 collapse video) of having "tampered with it" (you've gotta love it!... tampering with fake footage!) - and was even threatening her with a big lawsuit ! :P

Next, Siegel was himself accused (by another 911 "truther" clown, John Albanese) of having viciously harassed a "9/11 victim family member", namely, the infamous Ellen Mariani (who has since been exposed as a fraud / impostor). That Siegel-Albanese "feud" (a crass dog-and-pony show) even made it to the New York Post :


9/11 SKEPTICS’ LUNATIC FRINGE - by Andrea Peyser (July 16, 2007)

THIS time, they’ve gone too far. A group of 9/11 conspiracy theorists – whackos who deny that jumbo jets brought down the World Trade Center – is on the attack. But their latest target isn’t the government, which they claim destroyed the buildings with explosives.
They’re using a vicious Internet assault to pick on an elderly widow.

“They’re dirty sons of bastards! They are not real men,” feisty Ellen Mariani, 69, told me. Ellen lost her husband aboard United 175 on Sept. 11, 2001.
“They have no respect for women, no respect for the dead and no respect for little children who now have been orphaned.”
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The Web site is the work of a Rick Siegel, who hawks DVDs that purport to prove the trade center’s destruction was an inside job. He is partners with Nico Haupt, who is known for sending blistering e-mail rants to trade-center survivors.

My attempts to reach both men were fruitless.


http://nypost.com/2007/07/16/911-skepti ... ic-fringe/

(It later turned out that Rick Siegel was good friends with Andrea Peyser, the author of the above NYP article!... :rolleyes: )

Shortly after, Rick Siegel's "911rearchers.com" forum was shut down, reportedly via 'legal actions' by John Albanese himself...
"911researchers.com Website Shut Down" : http://arabesque911.blogspot.it/2007/07 ... -down.html

Observant readers may have noticed that all this 'dire drama' played out soon after my June 5, 2007 release date of September Clues. Oh, well...

So who exactly, you may ask, IS this Rick Siegel character? WHO EXACTLY IS this man who claims to have filmed the WTC1 collapse with his own little camera from the shores of Hoboken which, at the time, was the ONLY EXISTING such "amateur footage" claimed by an identifiable person? What is this man's background?

Well, please meet the CEO of ONLINE TV, the first online video network broadcasting 24 Hours a day from Europe and the USA using advanced proprietary software and paid membership driven technology.

"Online TV Networks CEO Rick Siegel Interviewed on Squawk Box (NBC)"

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgWX_j0QKXE


And here's another Rick Siegel interview:

"Rick Siegel Interviewed On Launch of Windows 95"

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkp3k-GWDRo


Enough said? Hope you all enjoyed this little summary/review - for the historical record. :)



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For further related details and updates :

JIM KOSIOR - the "2010 version" of RICK SIEGEL: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2361064

WHY DOES CLUESFORUM EXIST?: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2389447
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby simonshack on April 3rd, 2015, 2:57 am

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RICK SIEGEL'S LONE BIRD

"A LONE BIRD RIDES A HOT THERMAL IN A CIRCLE ABOVE THE DUST CLOUDS"

Please go to 9min11secs in this video (credited to Rick Siegel) and watch that "lone bird" flying around... :rolleyes:

Make sure to watch it in full screen. It is truly hilarious (or, if you will, very very sad and silly).


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAeIhgQWw4

If this inane video animation doesn't offend your intelligence - NOTHING WILL !
Please do not let yourself get hypnotized by the audio tracks of Rick Siegel's "videos". Turn the volume down to zero. As it is, we are asked to believe that Rick Siegel, as he "ran down with his zappy scooter to the Hoboken pier with his camera", somehow had a radio / TV audio feed running in the proximity of his video camera microphone...

Rick Siegel is a perp - and is now, as far as I know, taking refuge in Spain. He needs to be tracked down - and interrogated.
In my ideal world, of course...

Please keep in mind that Rick Siegel is the guy credited with the ONE-AND-ONLY early-released "amateur footage" of the WTC collapses. ALL the other extant (higher resolution) "amateur WTC collapse imagery" was released months / or years later. In any case, the incredibly poor resolution of Rick Siegel's alleged 9/11 video material is a red flag in itself: to be sure, he wasn't filming with a crappy cellphone camera (since they didn't exist in 2001). And remember: even the first images of the "moon landings" were as atrociously crappy as Rick Siegel's "9/11 videos".
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby simonshack on April 4th, 2015, 8:13 pm

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RICK SIEGEL'S 9/11 "FOOTAGE"

Anders Lindman - a longtime 9/11 "truther" (and fellow Scandinavian?) over at Jim Fetzer's "REAL DEAL", wrote these lines yesterday:

AndersLindman wrote: "I would be surprised if it could be shown that the Siegel video is CGI fakery. I absolutely doubt that, but yes to really know for sure such investigation is needed I agree."
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2015/03 ... 5559849804


So, if such investigation is still needed - I will kindly oblige, dear Anders. Here's my (new) contribution to 'the cause'. Please do take the time, however, to read my above descriptions of Rick Siegel - so as to get the 'full picture' of the guy.

As for the 9/11 pictures credited to Siegel, there are several problems with them.

Here is a moment featuring the "WTC2 collapse". The smoke reflected in the building at right flows in the wrong direction. This is an error a (lazy) animator may easily make - since when you wish to mirror an object in a window, you'll have to flip the image horizontally. However, in the case of moving imagery (such as this drifting smoke) you'll have to remember to also reverse the sideways motion of the moving object:
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uolPib4RX6o

Here's a supposedly 'overexposed" frame - directly extracted from Siegel's "911 footage" (no, I haven't altered it in any way) which is claimed to have been caused due to him "manually adjusting the [camera] filter". ( Here's a link to this 'excuse-me caption': "SORRY FOR THE MANUAL FILTER ADJUSTMENT": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAeIhgQWw4#t=33 )
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAeIhgQWw4

Here is another similar "overexposed" frame - to be found in Siegel's "9/11 Eyewitness" movie:
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What we see in the above two frames is nothing that can possibly occur when adjusting any "filter" (or light sensor) of a real video camera. Instead, the black contours lining this city skyline scenery are tell-tale signs, typical of chroma / luma-keying, well-known to anyone familiar with greenscreening tricks in the digital domain. The two frames are instant 'giveaways' telling us that this imagery was computer-generated. Anyone claiming otherwise will have to submit ANY instance where such a phenomenon has occured with a REAL video camera adjustment.

Another difficulty when simulating real world environments in the digital domain is, of course, to create realistic perspectives. Siegel is supposed to have been filming from the Hoboken Pier - across the Hudson and about 3km North-West from the WTC (he then claims to have moved slightly further North, to the Frank Sinatra pier - as per this little map featured in his movie):
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Now, here is a looped gif of a sequence meant to depict Siegel panning his camera towards his fellow bystanders on the Hoboken pier. Please pay close attention to the amount of 'camera rotation' that we can see in this clip - and the apparent viewing angle at which these bystanders are gazing at the WTC drama :
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Here is a still frame from the above gif loop. Yes, these Hoboken-pier-bystanders DO appear to gaze in the correct (South-East) direction of the WTC (as of Google maps). The problem is, does the WTC itself - as depicted in the above clip - appear to be placed correctly? Or do these folks appear to be gazing in the wrong direction?
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[Oh, and you may say that the poor headless woman at far right is probably not gazing at anything at all! :P ]

Let us now compare "Siegel's shot of the WTC1 collapse" with what was shown on TV on 9/11. In Siegel's clip of that 'historical moment in time', we can clearly see a helicopter flying right by the towers, roughly in a South to North path:
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We should expect to see this same helicopter-fly-by in this other clip from the NIST-FOIA archives - but we don't :
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In this shot (from North East) aired by CBS, we should MOST CERTAINLY expect to see that chopper-fly-by... but we don't:
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( More about the "VANISHING HELICOPTERS" here: viewtopic.php?p=2354017#p2354017 )

So what is going on here? Make no mistake: I am not suggesting that what was aired on TV was any more real / authentic than the imagery credited to Rick Siegel. All I am pointing out here are a few absurdities & aberrations which, I hope, will help people realize the utter phoniness of ALL the extant 9/11 imagery - be it credited to "amateur videographers" or to the news media.

We are then asked to believe that Siegel hung around at the Frank Sinatra pier for another seven hours - until the WTC 7 collapsed at 5:20PM or so. Yes, just like the Naudet brothers, Siegel claims to have captured ALL THREE building collapses, WTC2, WTC1 and WTC7. Oh well, I guess that, as filmmakers / documentarians, they were all 'conscious' that this was a historical event to be documented to the very end...

However, it is worthy of note that Siegel's POV of the WTC7 collapse was very similar (give or take a few degrees) to that of NY1 TV - who were also supposedly filming from the Frank Sinatra pier / or park. Here is a frame from Siegel's "footage" (he claims to have left his video camera in time-lapse mode - and only captured a couple of frames of the falling WTC7 - just as it started to collapse) :
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uolPib4RX6o#t=3504

Here is a frame of the WTC7 aired on television by NEW YORK TV1 - just as it started to collapse ( I call it the WTC7 Mustard Shot ) -_- :
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And here is a gif loop of the NY1 clip (aired on TV) purportedly depicting the WTC7 collapse:
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfJ3Zur0_Y

As you can see, what was aired on TV that day (what with those absurd color schemes, 'dancing' smoke plumes, missing helicopters and whatnot) was no better - nor more credible - than what was later claimed to be "amateur" imagery. I therefore rest my case: NO available 9/11 imagery can be trusted as legitimate footage. It stands to reason that a thick, visually impenetrable military-grade smokescreen was raised around the WTC area, so as to ensure that if ANY REAL / LEGITIMATE amateur footage of the day were captured on film (in spite of possible electromagnetic HERF measures selectively disabling any camera / video electronics in the area) - it would only show Lower Manhattan engulfed in smoke - and little else: no details of the various tower collapses was recorded on film - as they were 'safely' demolished behind a smokescreen - the oldest & simplest trick in the military 'warfare-deception book', if there ever was one.

More about the "9/11 SMOKESCREEN": viewtopic.php?p=2391828#p2391828

Anders, do you still think that Rick Siegel's 9/11 "footage" is real and legit?
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby Farcevalue on April 9th, 2015, 10:21 pm

What successful rock star with an illustrious history of chart topping hits and tours wouldn't want a minor role as a psyop stooge? All of them except Geddy Lee, evidently. If one were to make it to wellaware1 before venturing to cluesforum, he may be persuaded to dismiss any further inquiry into Rick Siegel. Which is surely the point. From the demented "research" of DGB:

[st]http://wellaware1.com/artwork/large/getty.jpg[/st]

[ADMIN: The above image — now removed with only link remaining — is a poorly constructed image implying "Geddy Lee" from the band Rush is the same person playing the character "Rick Siegel". It has been removed due to its nature as speculative montage rather than clear research. It's not an impossible implication, but please do not be taken away with wellaware1's extremely lazy "research style". Do the slightly more strenuous and therefore more provable CF style which is to make explicitly clear points in essay/diagram style. Otherwise it really doesn't look like you care. Thanks. -hp]
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby hoi.polloi on April 9th, 2015, 11:07 pm

I thought we made it clear we don't do 'hit and run' posts with links/URLs/videos.

Sorry, but this needs to explained with your own words if you think it's legit. Especially if it's coming direct from Goldengooseegg.

For my part, I have looked at the Rick Siegel video very closely so you'd better make a very good case for make up or digital altering, since they don't look a bit alike, and everyone has veins on their arms.



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Hoi, I will have to disagree with this particular mod action of yours. In his comment, Farcevalue makes it very clear that he does not think Goldbug's demented "research" is legit in any way - and only posted that inane Goldbug 'comparison' to highlight the raving silliness of the bugger's "research". This was no 'hit and run' post by Farcevalue, only a brief reminder of what sort of idiotic shillery and well-poisoning we are up against, this Goldbug clown being specifically designed to discredit and ridicule any legit research such as the Vicsim Report - or the more recent Challenger Crew research. (simon)
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby Flabbergasted on April 9th, 2015, 11:37 pm

It´s none of my business, but I believe Farcevalue was posting the montage as an example of how DGB tries to lead potential researchers away from important lines of investigation by waving shoddy photographic comparisons before their eyes.

But I am glad the image was removed. It was giving me the creeps.
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby hoi.polloi on April 9th, 2015, 11:42 pm

Another strange thing about the Rick Siegel video "911 Eyewitness Documentary" is that when they show him in his own video, he fades in on a still picture, as if to conserve the number of images in the moving video. This could be a rather obnoxious process, depending on the video software, don't you think?

Rather than merely having lots of video to take 'takes' from, they act as if each segment featuring this "Rick" character is a precious commodity that they want to show every single frame of. It's almost as if a military supervisor had gone over each frame and "approved" a limited number of sequences.
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby Farcevalue on April 10th, 2015, 12:08 am

Flabbergasted wrote:It´s none of my business, but I believe Farcevalue was posting the montage as an example of how DGB tries to lead potential researchers away from important lines of investigation by waving shoddy photographic comparisons before their eyes.

But I am glad the image was removed. It was giving me the creeps.


Exactly.

I thought the comparison to be so ridiculous as to require no further explanation. It was posted as an illustration of the well poisoning tactics used by well aware to lead the curious away from discovering that actors are used in psyops, but not famous easily recognizable celebrities who have already achieved fame in their own right.

And yes, it is a creepy image.
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Re: RICK SIEGEL - unforgettable mega shill

Postby fbenario on April 10th, 2015, 12:35 am

Let's change the title of this thread from '... unforgettable ...' to '... unforgivable ...'.
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