Drama under the OldElmTree

How the controlled opposition was designed to be part of the 9/11 hoax
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simonshack @ Sep 12 2010, 10:06 PM wrote:
brianv 4 Sep 12 2010, 02:12 PM wrote: "Is the problem that you think she doesn't exist"

Isn't she dead? :rolleyes:

You and your in-laws were at her funeral, I take it? Could you pop out and take a photo of her grave and post it here?
Hold it, everyone !

Just found this :

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Well, I guess we can call it a day, folks - there's all the evidence we needed right there!... :D

(Found it on an image search, but when I clicked on the related website link it said ERROR 404 ACCESS FORBIDDEN)
NOW That's FUNNY Simon!! Can you get me the address of the skilled stone mason that made that Amazing piece? :P
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Brutal Metal @ Sep 12 2010, 05:10 PM wrote: What type of car and color did your friend drive when you knew her for those 3 faithful years? Did she belong to a gym? play tennis? Jog? Have Tupperware parties? Please let us live vicariously through you and her, tell us the Deep Philosophical discussions you had about life? I'm all ears??
Much to your disappointment, I can answer those questions. I know what car she drove and what she liked to do. I see no need to bother though since she "never existed"...

And to whomever posted the picture of the stone with her name on it. If it will make you happy, that memorial is in Hunterdon County so I'd be more than happy to take a ride over there tomorrow and take an actual picture of it for you. I'll make sure I get it from various angles never posted anywhere so you know it was me who took it and that it's actually there.
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justsayin 4 Sep 12 2010, 11:00 PM wrote: Much to your disappointment, I can answer those questions. I know what car she drove and what she liked to do. I see no need to bother though since she "never existed"...

And to whomever posted the picture of the stone with her name on it. If it will make you happy, that memorial is in Hunterdon County so I'd be more than happy to take a ride over there tomorrow and take an actual picture of it for you. I'll make sure I get it from various angles never posted anywhere so you know it was me who took it and that it's actually there.
We can't wait. Anyway, you should know this was a joke because of course a piece of stone doesn't prove much. Instead, it is important that you provide the more details you can think of. The car, "what she liked to do": anything.

You know, first, it is humanly hard to say detailed cold-blooded lies like that (when they're not prepared in advance from a script), and it matters to see you do it;
second, these details will stay here, whether they are false or true... They will clash with details that in the future should be anywhere provided... it is interesting to see if you are in the position of cooking them or not. Would you run that risk without blinking?
(well, you already failed on that unfortunately.)
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justsayin 4 Sep 12 2010, 10:00 PM wrote:
And to whomever posted the picture of the stone with her name on it. If it will make you happy, that memorial is in Hunterdon County so I'd be more than happy to take a ride over there tomorrow and take an actual picture of it for you. I'll make sure I get it from various angles never posted anywhere so you know it was me who took it and that it's actually there.
'Whomever' kindly asks you to spare yourself such efforts: I am not interested in seeing various angles of that silly memorial stone - from one of a zillion 9/11 memorial parks spread around the USA.

But if you'd like to post a picture of her actual gravestone that would be fine. You see, unfortunately "Findagrave.com" has determined that they don't need to show us any photos of 9/11 victims' gravestones - although that's the very business they are into:




This memorial currently has no photos...
Find A Grave has determined that we don't need any additional photos for this memorial.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... id=5759236


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And her other brother's name please!!
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simonshack @ Sep 12 2010, 11:17 PM wrote: But if you'd like to post a picture of her actual gravestone that would be fine.
this search

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... all&GSob=n

other than showing a memorial for the original vicsim Maria Behr (with same known picture), showed this page

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 397&df=all&

which is possibly and probably dedicated to the same vicsim, and which states that she is buried at this cemetery

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 867&df=all&

providing no picture for it.

Anyone in near the cemetery cares to pay a visit? (Not that even a gravestone would be evidence that a body is buried underneath, besides she could be one of the many supposedly "vaporized", as the perpetrators got tired of burying empty coffins)
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...the mentioned search also provide this grave site

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 226&df=all&

of one Maria Fatima Behr who died in 2000, almost exactly a year before 9/11. Eerie, as if they stole her identity, slightly changed it, to get inspiration for a vicsim. I wonder if similar cases can be found?
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nonhocapito 4 Sep 12 2010, 10:39 PM wrote: ...the mentioned search also provide this grave site

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 226&df=all&

of one Maria Fatima Behr who died in 2000, almost exactly a year before 9/11. Eerie, as if they stole her identity, slightly changed it, to get inspiration for a vicsim. I wonder if similar cases can be found?
Yes, especially since her middle name is "Fatima".

What are the odds of having

a Maria Fatima Behr dying on Oct,22- 2000

and a Maria Asunci?n Behr dying on Sept,11 -2001



Both with hispanic middle names?

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I also find it extremely offensive of Find A Grave to list Maria A. Behr with "unknown birthdate" and only "2001" for her date of death.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 397&df=all&

At least Fatima has both a full birth date and a full death date...
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simonshack @ Sep 12 2010, 11:47 PM wrote: At least Fatima has both a full birth date and a full death date...
Fatima's a fellow human being, you know... not to be racist, I reckon those vicsims must have some rights, but there's a limit, they're not like us :D
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MEANING OF THE NAME ASUNCION
"The girl's name Asuncion a-sun-cion, as(u)-ncion is of Latin origin, and the meaning of Asuncion is "Assumption (of the Virgin Mary into Heaven)".

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Asuncion



MEANING OF THE NAME FATIMA
"The girl's name Fatima f(a)-ti-ma is pronounced FAH-tee-mah. It is of Arabic origin, and the meaning of Fatima is "baby's nurse". Also possibly "one who abstains". The name of the favorite daughter of the prophet Muhammad who was his only child to bear children. Hence she is sometimes referred to as "the mother of all Muslims". See also Aisha, Khadijah, and Mary. The name is sometimes used by Christians in honor of "Our Lady of Fatima" due to a vision of the Virgin Mary in 1917 by three Christian children in Portugal."

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Fatima
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Ok, the other day I mentioned somewhere vicsim William Fallon of Cantor Fitz, so out of lazyness (couldn't think of any other vicsim name) I ran him on findagrave.

There's two of them (there are two William Fallon in the victims list, the other one is from Port Authority)

One here:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 261&df=all&

Another one here, no mugshot, but a gravesite
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 790&df=all&

But more importantly, we ALSO have another William Fallon here who died almost a year before, on February 2001. William "G" Fallon

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 448&df=all&

I guess I should check this on more rare names...
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Enough of toying with this despicable lying shill who is the same filthy idiot as always, employing the same half-hearted ID choice (justsayin, InSpiteOfWhatever, etc) as always. Always artificially invoking "Truth" like a disguise.

It's the same lowlife garbage scumbag as always. Kill it.
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nonhocapito @ Sep 12 2010, 06:14 PM wrote:
justsayin 4 Sep 12 2010, 11:00 PM wrote: Much to your disappointment, I can answer those questions. I know what car she drove and what she liked to do. I see no need to bother though since she "never existed"...

And to whomever posted the picture of the stone with her name on it. If it will make you happy, that memorial is in Hunterdon County so I'd be more than happy to take a ride over there tomorrow and take an actual picture of it for you. I'll make sure I get it from various angles never posted anywhere so you know it was me who took it and that it's actually there.
We can't wait. Anyway, you should know this was a joke because of course a piece of stone doesn't prove much. Instead, it is important that you provide the more details you can think of. The car, "what she liked to do": anything.

You know, first, it is humanly hard to say detailed cold-blooded lies like that (when they're not prepared in advance from a script), and it matters to see you do it;
second, these details will stay here, whether they are false or true... They will clash with details that in the future should be anywhere provided... it is interesting to see if you are in the position of cooking them or not. Would you run that risk without blinking?
(well, you already failed on that unfortunately.)
I am well aware... As much as it pains me because I know what will follow... Not long before she died, she leased a converible Mercedes. I think it was a CLK430. Was only in it once. I was out with her and some friends at a local bar the Friday night before she died and she drove a few of us down there. She also had a Porsche. She lived in an old farmhouse in Milford but also had a place in Hoboken I believe. Before she bought the house in Milford, she rented a house on Charlestown Road in Hampton that was formerly owned by Leo and Elsa McLaughlin. It was while she was living in Hampton that my mother in law met her because they lived down the street. Loved wine. Used to buy it by the case from Holland Liquors on Milford Warren Glen Road in Milford. She had a number of cats roaming around at all times. Her house in Milford was really rustic. It was her retreat from the city life. It had a big old barn with an American flag painted on it. She kept the porshe in the barn and only took it out in nice weather. She had a nice inground pool at the house too. I don't know many intimate details about her life prior to the time I met her. I believe she did marry but was divorced before I met her. She didn't have any children. From what I remember her saying, she started at the bottom at CF, had a knack for the business and worked her way up to where she was before she was killed. She was smart and savvy and knew her sh#t. I don't think she graduated college.

I am done trying to prove anything because I am not a member of her family and can't produce a birth certificate, family photes, yearbook photos or a death certificate. I only write the above because as one of you said correctly, it will be a permanent record for somene to verify or to dispute but at least it will be recorded somewhere.
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STFU Humphrey-hugger. Your op is fail.

Details from the public script or your ass are worth as much as the other sh#t coming from it.
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ozzybinoswald 4 Sep 12 2010, 11:17 PM wrote:
It's the same lowlife garbage scumbag as always. Kill it.
Oz,

I fully appreciate your stance on this ("just kill the slime").

However, we are witnessing the perps' swansong - live. Let me enjoy the tune.
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