SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

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SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby simonshack on November 21st, 2012, 9:00 pm

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SEPTEMBER CLUES on air


I thought it was about time to open a thread dedicated to the various radio shows/podcasts discussing September Clues.

I haven't really kept track of them (not even the ones featuring yours truly) so if anyone can help me retrieve the links to past radio shows featuring September Clues in any way or form, please post those links here - thanks!

Here is, for now, the link to a quite excellent one - featuring Abirato and Onebornfree (highly recommended listening!):

RADIO ABIRATO - OCTOBER 3, 2012:
http://radio.abirato.info/wp-content/up ... 10/obf.mp3

Here's the link to his radio: http://radio.abirato.info/
And here's the link to his blog: http://abirato.info/
Here's Onebornfree's blog: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... -show.html


PS: I've been in touch with Tim (aka Abirato) lately, and he's invited me for a future show.

(Let me take this occasion to present my excuses to Abirato on behalf of Cluesforum for his initial reception here, when, apparently, someone suspected him of being a 'bot'. This is why I'll ask all regular members to exert more caution before making a judgment of any new members registering here. We should of course stay on the alert , given the tiresome flow of trolls this forum attracts - but it is important for us to maintain a high level of discernment so as not to put off honest persons wishing to participate and contribute to our endeavors.)
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby abirato on November 22nd, 2012, 2:51 am

Simon,
Thanks kindly for your words. I look forward to having you and/or any of the fine representatives of the cluesforum on anytime, to discuss any or all of the massive body of work here. Feel free to PM me or contact me via my site. :D
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby brianv on November 22nd, 2012, 2:57 am

(Let me take this occasion to present my excuses to Abirato on behalf of Cluesforum for his initial reception here, when, apparently, someone suspected him of being a 'bot'. This is why I'll ask all regular members to exert more caution before making a judgment of any new members registering here. We should of course stay on the alert , given the tiresome flow of trolls this forum attracts - but it is important for us to maintain a high level of discernment so as not to put off honest persons wishing to participate and contribute to our endeavors.)


Ouch! That hurt!

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea máxima culpa.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby hoi.polloi on November 22nd, 2012, 4:00 am

Okay "onebornfree" seems a little legit, but we'll wait and see about this "abirato" fellow, I don't know.

Just kidding. :P

Nice salt-of-the-earth "real" sound to the show. Well done. I'm envious.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby simonshack on November 22nd, 2012, 10:42 pm

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Here's another great radio podcast which was pointed out to me by my Norwegian pen pal El Buggo.
Well, yeah - It's on Fetzer's "Real Deal" show - but it features special guest Christopher Holmes, the author of:

FABLED AIRPLANES
The Role of the Corporate Media in Creating and Perpetuating the Mass Hypnosis of the American Public

An Investigative Psychological and Forensic Examination of the September Clues Video Series

http://www.zeropoint.ca/FabledAirplanes.html


CHRISTOPHER HOLMES on the Jim Fetzer show - March 14, 2011 (96 minutes) > comments
http://www.septclues.com/AUDIO%20FILES/ ... 4_2011.mp3 (my edited version)

(Don't worry - I have edited out Fetzer's commercial breaks plugging his JFK book / and those dreary Beatles songs that Jimbo can't seem to grow out of...)

I really enjoyed Mr. Holmes' verve and humorous tone - as he cunningly highlights to his gasping and 'stunned' radio host the absurd, hilarious and ultimately blatantly scripted lines delivered by the 9/11 TV news anchors. Best of all, the spuriously dumbstruck and stupefied "Professor Emeritus of Critical Thinking and Scientific Reasoning" Dr. Fetzer comes across as a little child who's just been told that Santa Claus is not for real. So you may enjoy both Holmes' sharp insights and Fetzer's comedic stupor - as he "learns" about the news media's central role in the 9/11 hoax.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby SmokingGunII on November 23rd, 2012, 4:52 pm

Hi Simon

I've not had the opportunity to listen to any of the podcasts but wiil when I can.

The fabled planes article is excellent and probably needs to be accessible from the home page? I had one thought. Is Christopher Holmes also aware that the "amateur" videos from people on the street all seemed to be shot by the same news media people? I have posted my list below from the "thousands of witnesses myth" thread:

Naudet Brothers
Jules and Gideon need no introduction to 9/11 researchers other than that they are smack bang in the middle of the hoax.

Kevin Segalla
(Chambers St) Runs film tax credit company links to De Niro and ABC :unsure:

Kim Abramson
Worth St (possible pharmaceutical connections, haven't had time to delve any deeper)

Mi-Kyung Heller
Franklin St - I don't believe this is a real person. A telephone conversation in the background suggests it could have been a missile that hit the WTC. Red herring (see Rumsfeld's slip at the Pentagon)

Jim Huibregtse
West Side Highway (professional photographer) http://www.jimhuibregtse.com/#p=-1&a=0&at=0

Pilots Walsh & Hayes :ph34r:

Mohammed Awad – (Reuters)
West St - Friend of Clinton
http://wn.com/Mohammed_Awad

Angelo Martin – photojournalist WABC – West St
Hard to ascertain if this guy exists or not. Like many others involved in 9/11 the name appears in the IMDB – there was also an "Angelo Martin" involved in an art show 11 sept 2010. :P

Park Foreman – Brooklyn Heights (well known to researchers)

Scott Myers – John St (also well known to researchers)– Navy & ABC connections.

Evan Fairbanks – Needs no introduction although, interestingly, according to IMDB, he has had no work from 2001-2010 apart from one episode of TV makeover show! What does he live on?

Michael Kovalenko – King St –
Another one with an IMDB profile. Someone of the same name is an Ass VP Credit Suisse NY (I can’t find his purported location on streetview?)

Ronald S Pordy – (professional photographer) Removed Pordyworks site with footage.

Michael Toole – Desbrosses St – (Again, I can’t find location on streetview?) Another manufactured person from the IDMB?

Lesli Klainberg – Lafayette st (viewing position appears extremely elevated) Film Producer – worked for ABC Disney
Using my newly created 3d model of the WTC and crosschecking where she could film the towers from such an elevated height - I discovered the only building within the sightlines of any height is the 179m high 26 Federal Plaza, home of the FBI. Lesli does work for the anti defamation League and gay community.

Luigi Cazzaniga – Park Place (haven't found anything to date - could be another fake id, seems like a generic Italian name)

Bruno Levy – Church St http://www.brunolevy.com/about.html This name also appears in IDMB.

Devin Clark – 34th St (well known to researchers)

Steve Spak – WTC after collapse (FDNY & EMS photographer)
http://www.stevespak.com/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02hf7eBQTi8 Caught out at Ground Zero!


Etienne Sauret – Director/documentary maker, many connected to 9/11 after the event. See IMDB profile.

LIVE witnesses: (Viacom owns CBS)

Other notable witnesses:
Mark Obenhaus - Film Producer/Director - worked with Peter Jennings on JFK "hit" piece.
Stewart Nurick – CBS early Show intern, coordinator on Colbert Report Comedy Central
Theresa Renaud – wife of CBS Early Show producer, jack Renaud.
Mary Cozza – http://www.telecommarketnews.com/2008/0 ... nounc.html

Sid Bedingfield – (promoted February 2002)
Bedingfield has held key positions on both the international and domestic networks at CNN over the past 19 years. He helped launch CNN International as a separate network with its own original programming and served as CNNI's senior executive producer of live programming for five years. During that time, he served in the field as senior producer on such major news events as the election of Nelson Mandela in South Africa, the U.S. occupation of Haiti, the elections of Boris Yeltsin in Russia and the British handover of Hong Kong to China.

Later, Bedingfield served as executive vice president and general manager of the CNN/US network, overseeing all programming and personnel issues. He oversaw the network's coverage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and their aftermath. In his most recent position, Bedingfield oversaw CNN Productions, a documentary and long-form unit that produced and acquired about 50 hours of programming each year for CNN/US and CNN International.




Christian Martin (NBC) married to Elizabeth Cole (NBC Dateline editor)
Martin covering the event for NBC bought a camera from a tourist on the street and recorded the collapse of the south tower while standing near its base. ;)

Shachar Bar-Un (NBC dateline Producer)

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/ ... wsignin1.0


UPDATE:

Jeanne Yurman - News anchor & reporter with Reuters & CNN.

http://www.ny1.com/content/features/131 ... obs-report

Jeanne was in her apt in Battery Park watching TV when she heard a "sonic boom" and her TV went off (8:56 CNN) She was surprised when she heard it was a plane (see Sean Murtagh, who appeared on TV prior to her).
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bc7r ... eanne_news


Elliott Walker - NBC News producer -"2nd plane through right over my building", then she adds that she saw it fly past and described it as "big":
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bcgc ... alker_news

Note how she describes the "sirens" but we hear nothing. This is a recurring issue with eyewitness reports.



Frederick Schneider (not 100% confimed) - Executive producer CEO Exchange 2000-2001 (part of PBS, responsible for the documentary that featured Silverstein's infamous "pull it" quote)

I haven't made a 100% connection yet that this is THE Frederick Schneider but his testimony is worth listening to for it's contradictions and how ruffled he is when the interviewer asks a question he isn't expecting: He claims to be on the 24th floor of a 51 floor building on Liberty St, one and a half blocks from the towers. He claims he heard the first explosion and when he looked out "SAW the plane fall behind other buildings out of his view". Later he contradicts this by saying he only learned that the first explosion was a plane from news reports on the TV! (note how quiet it is in the background)

However, he later claims that he sees the 2nd plane "deliberately" fly into the building. When the interviewer asks him why he thought it was "deliberate" listen to him stumble for an answer and insist that BOTH planes were targetting the WTC - but he didn't see the first plane until AFTER the explosion!! Obviously thrown off script he rambles on about the gaping hole in the tower instead of answering the question. However, he explains that he is a little shaken having seen the plane pass by at eye level. Excuse me, Mr Schneider, the 24th floor does not represent eye level when a plane is allegedly crashing into 80th floors. Not even close. When asked how close the plane was he repeats "a block and a half". Obviously this is scripted and he has no idea what distance to say to the interviewer in yards. If someone asked you how far away a plane was that had just flown past your window, would you answer in street blocks?

Pressed further about the first plane that he had seen, he admits that he didn't see any plane but charred metal, but since he "learned that the first explosion was caused by a plane, I ASSUMED it was a piece of fuselage". So you didn't see the first plane Mr Schneider, so how do you know it was deliberately targetting the WTC. Bet you wish you hadn't gone off script now aren't you? Interestingly, he KNOWS that the plume of fire that billows out would be consistent with jet fuel burning. Wow, is there no end to this man's knowledge?
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby AmongTheThugs on November 24th, 2012, 8:00 am

I'm listening to the Chris Holmes/Fetzer piece. If this was my only exposure to Fetzer I would think he was alright. He's agreeing with Mr Holmes who is coming across very clearly. In the other piece I listened to Fetzer was blatantly gate keeping.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby Alfie on November 24th, 2012, 8:39 pm

RADIO ABIRATO - OCTOBER 3, 2012:
http://radio.abirato.info/wp-content/up ... 10/obf.mp3

Here's the link to his radio: http://radio.abirato.info/
And here's the link to his blog: http://abirato.info/
Here's Onebornfree's blog: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... -show.html


Thanks Abirato, I enjoyed the radio show and another thanks for introducing Marcus Allen to me, very interesting show on sport fixing.

Just one suggestion; as you are now an international radio celeb, could you add a time zone to your broadcasts?
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby abirato on November 25th, 2012, 1:25 am

Alfie wrote:Just one suggestion; as you are now an international radio celeb, could you add a time zone to your broadcasts?


Suggestion taken. Thanks. All times EST. No celeb here...amateur all the way baby!
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby Alfie on November 27th, 2012, 5:39 pm

Alfie wrote:... thanks for introducing Marcus Allen to me, very interesting show on sport fixing.


I imagine the internet to be so large but the research community into fakery turns out to be much smaller than I had thought.

The cretinous assumptions of Marcus Allen are, basically, that since I live in Rome I must be a jesuit shill
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/ar/t149.htm

My apologies to the forum for my ignorance re your vast history with everyone out there! :wacko:
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby simonshack on November 28th, 2012, 10:40 pm

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Another great podcast from http://radio.abirato.info/


ABIRATO AND BRIAN STAVELEY: - November 24, 2012
http://radio.abirato.info/wp-content/up ... 242012.mp3

I must say that both Tim (aka Abirato) and Brian Staveley have a pretty firm grasp on the 9/11 hoax.
Yes I know, Brian Staveley's rather messy and wordy posts on this forum raised a few eyebrows here. His website is just as messy and wordy though - so I guess it's just a trait of his personality. I think we should now all reconcile our differences as to the ways we choose to diffuse to a wider audience the most outrageous media hoax of our times. There can be no room for infighting between like-minded people right now - we just can't 'afford' it! To those who still doubt the good intentions of Brian Staveley, take comfort in the fact that he is - for now - doing a damn good job in diffusing our common findings, on air.

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Ooops: Brian Staveley mentioned "Mark Humphrey" as being the 'Harley Guy'. I guess he's just missed this conclusive proof that the 'Harley Guy' was NOT Canadian actor Mark Humphrey (as claimed for years by mega-shill "ozzybinoswald") but was in fact, a FOX employee called MARK "PSYCHO" WALSH: viewtopic.php?p=2372201#p2372201
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby Brian S Staveley on November 29th, 2012, 6:55 am

A simple but careless mistake. I should have gotten his name right. I know he is not that actor. I was going fast through stuff and mis said his name. Eveyone knows what I meant though. We do need to be precise though.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby Brian S Staveley on November 29th, 2012, 7:20 am

I like this statement though Simon and I agree. "There can be no room for infighting between like-minded people right now"

No more BS. We all want the same thing and like I said I wouldn't I never turned on you guys.
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby AmongTheThugs on November 30th, 2012, 7:40 am

Sometimes I smoke pot. :D
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Re: SEPTEMBER CLUES on air

Postby Equinox on November 30th, 2012, 2:18 pm

I have been friends with Justin Cooke on facebook, for about 2 years…
And since Brian came on in April on here I have got to know him heaps better, and these days consider him a good friend. Funnily enough we both have a lot in common… From immediate family in Boston, through to music tastes, we even dig the same type of girls.
(Don’t lie Brian, buddy, you love the party club chicks just as much as me lol) :lol: :lol:

I vouch for him to be an awesome person, whom I do personally trust with research and doing right thing… I would simply not bother with him if this was remotely untrue.

Here is Brian and I doing an hour long radio segment on the Dose of Reality. A couple of months back.

Equinox and Brian S Staveley- Exposing the 9/11 Media Fakery Hoax…..
The Dose of Reality-- 9-18-12
[@40.43 mines.

http://www.therealnewsonline.com/upload ... _final.ogg

[ADMIN: Please, in the future, clarify when the important or relevant information comes into play. The time stamp 40.43 should say something by it like "September Clues interjection begins at" or something. There was over half an hour of useless chatter before your segment. Sorry if that assumes our audience is daft, but I think it's important to not waste media-indulgence time. Thank you Equinox! Well done! - hp]
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