An alternative?
The poster from Sweden is certainly onto something about Scandinavian countries being managed societies. The last time I was in Sweden I found the place utterly mental, people trussed up in impossible to get tenancies in outlying Stockholm, watching TV with their 'sambo' who they can barely tolerate but put up with due to the gimp-mask rental contract.
Swedish government has certainly produced some grade A bastards, like Carl Bildt. Everything since Olof Palme seems off key to me.
With regards the flat earth...I really dont know. I just...simply dont know. It seems to me as if the NASA fake earth pictures and fake relativity science is being intentionally exposed by a combination of well-funded stooge alternative media and the obviously intentional ham-fisted fakery and bullshit of the space agencies in order to, do what exactly? Steer the ship of fools away from the Star-Trek Scylla directly into its dialectical opposite, the Charybdis of superstition, ancient myths and old gods, but this time buttressed with high technology, and unable to steer a golden middle ground of applied reason and thinking for oneself, always pulled to one extreme or the other. Never reaching a hand to grope in the darkness of the cave, instead always eager to hear a new tale told by the captor.
What about cosmos/earth as projection of sense-limited individual consciousness, but mediated by a kind of collective experience? If we can imagine ourselves never having seen these earth pictures or heard about a flat static earth, what would we conjure up?
http://mythology.wikia.com/wiki/Norse_cosmology
Yggdrasill?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_al- ... _table.jpg
The Sufi Ruhaniyat?
Shinto cosmology?
"The kami of Heaven and Earth must not lack a worshipper; the universe (uchū) must have a lord."
http://eos.kokugakuin.ac.jp/modules/xwo ... tryID=1319
I really dont know. I am reminded of the opening paragraph of the world as will and representation by Schopenhauer:
The world is my idea:
this is a truth which holds good
for everything that lives and knows, though man alone can bring
it into reflective and abstract consciousness. If he really does
this, he has attained to philosophical wisdom. It then becomes
clear and certain to him that what he knows is not a sun and an
earth, but only an eye that sees a sun, a hand that feels an earth;
that the world which surrounds him is there only as idea,
i.e. only in relation to something else, the consciousness, which is
himself. If any truth can be asserted a priori it is this: for it is the
expression of the most general form of all possible and thinkable
experience: a form which is more general than time, or space, or
causality, for they all presuppose it; and each of these, which we
have seen to be just so many modes of the principle of sufficient
reason, is valid only for a particular class of ideas; whereas the
antithesis of object and subject is the common form of all these
classes, is that form under which alone any idea of whatever kind
it may be, abstract or intuitive, pure or empirical, is possible and
thinkable. No truth therefore is more certain, more independent
of all others, and less in need of proof than this, that all that exists
for knowledge, and therefore this whole world, is only object in
relation to subject, perception of a perceiver, in a word, idea.
This is obviously true of the past and the future, as well as of the
present, of what is farthest off, as of what is near; for it is true
of time and space themselves, in which alone these distinctions
arise. All that in any way belongs or can belong to the world is
inevitably thus conditioned through the subject, and exists only
for the subject. The world is idea.
The question we have to ask, are the ideas our own? Are they good ones?
