12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks

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The italian side of these suicide attacks

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In Italy on Tuesday, a man opened fire in an outdoor market in Florence, killing two vendors from Senegal and wounding three other immigrants before killing himself, authorities said. Investigators identified the attacker as 50-year-old Gianluca Casseri, and RAI state TV said he was known to police for having participated in racist marches by an extreme right-wing group.

Very very strange! :ph34r:
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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brianv wrote:Smells decidedly of Not Another Terrorist Organisation.
Well, Brian...

For now, ALL the ingredients in this Belgium attack are there:

1: Wildly fluctuating death-and-wounded tolls - (now the wounded figure has risen to "123") inflicted by a 32-year-old Islamic culprit (who was fined 11.000 euros for marijuana offences)
2: Fluctuating rumors of the culprit having either committed suicide - or "perhaps" was shot by the police !
3: A mere handful of lame videos circulating of the attack - featuring completely useless imagery - only passing ambulances, sirens, and people walking back and forth talking on cell-phones... NO IMAGES OF THE 123 WOUNDED PEOPLE WHATSOEVER!
4: The looming threat of "another possible accomplice/shooter" still at large.



full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6sTGAqFuIQ

(I know this reading of mine might be premature, but we have seen all too often that the first hours after these PsyOps are essential to record AS THEY UNFOLD). It kind of makes sense that Belgium, the next-most-gullible population of Europe (after Norway) gets targeted with another N.A.T.O. psyop...

4 dead - and 123 wounded! - Tuesday December 13, 2011 - at 19h04min
http://www.levif.be/info/actualite/belg ... 013466.htm
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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So, here we go with the street-signs and the crosses again!

Beyond levif.be !!

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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simonshack wrote:*
The death toll is now "6" - with 70 wounded (according to "La Repubblica"):
It seems they can't make up their mind again; the death toll is now back at 5.

I'm getting used to these number games.
Belgium: Five dead in city centre grenade attack

Shoppers fled for their lives on Tuesday as a lone gunman brought terror to a Belgian city centre, killing four passers-by and injuring 75 others.

Teenage boys aged 15 and 17 died as well as a 20-year-old man and a 75-year-old woman as the killer opened fire and threw grenades from the roof of a bakery in Liege.

Authorities say he was Nordine Amrani, a 33-year-old local man, due to attend a police hearing today.

“The perpetrator is well known to the police and justice system,” Liege Prosecutor Danielle Reynders told reporters at a news conference. “He has been convicted of weapons offences, handling stolen goods, drugs and morality offences. He is not known for any terrorist-related acts. The investigation will continue so as to fully explain what motivated the perpetrator.”

Belgium’s King Albert II has travelled to the eastern city where several people are seriously hurt, among them a toddler fighting for its life.

Amrani himself is dead, having either committed suicide or been killed accidentally by one of his own explosive devices.
http://www.euronews.net/2011/12/13/belg ... de-attack/
LIEGE, Belgium (CNN) -- A grenade and gun attack in this eastern Belgian city left five people dead, including the attacker, and 119 wounded Tuesday, authorities said.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29 ... etail.html
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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simonshack wrote:* and that he had previously been fined 11.000 euros and been confiscated of 76.500 euros. (11/7+6+5=18, 1+8=9)for cultivating 2800 cannabis plants. :lol:
haha, could this new "green avalanche" accross europe have anything to do with it?

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/l ... 762879.php

weed = TERROR!

...can't wait to see the new vicsim pics!
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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I haven't had much time to look into it, but it seems likely that the event in Belgium is connected to the one that happened in Italy, in Florence, where a right-wing "lone nut" allegedly killed 2 african immigrants moving them down with gunfire.

http://www.euronews.net/2011/12/14/two- ... ce-attack/

These both might be completely faked or staged events... aimed at inducing a sense of "siege" over europe, surrounded by muslim and "fascist nut" threats. Better accept the authority that protects you, even if it bleeds you dry with taxes, it is the lesser of evils...

The guy who killed the african immigrants in Florence and then killed himself was named Gianluca Casseri. Italian newspapers call him a 'fascist antisemite'. http://www.corriere.it/cronache/11_dice ... 1a87.shtml

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From http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 51.shtml#4

Following the event in Florence, newspapers report that the police made "11 raids". <_<
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Attack in Florence

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from http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... =correlati

Uno degli agenti ha reagito sparando due colpi contro la vettura, raggiungendo la carrozzeria sul lato opposto al quale si trovava il killer, seduto al posto del passeggero. In un attimo Casseri si è puntato la pistola alla gola e ha fatto fuoco.

One of the officers responded by firing two shots at the car, reaching the body of the car on the opposite side to which the killer was sitting, infact he was in the passenger seat. In a moment Casseri pointed the gun to his throat and opened fire.


Often i use the passenger seat in my car! :unsure:

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2011/1 ... ef=HRER2-1

Secondo il comandante dei vigili urbani Casseri ha un'altra ferita da arma da fuoco, forse chi lo inseguiva ha sparato.

According to the Chief of Metropolitan Police, Mr Casseri has another gunshot wound, perhaps those who pursued him fired.
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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Eyewitness to attack tells -- for her -- this was something like the 911 attack -- horrible, unexpected, shocking.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/14/world/eur ... ?hpt=hp_t2
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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grav wrote:
Eyewitness to attack tells -- for her -- this was something like the 911 attack -- horrible, unexpected, shocking.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/14/world/eur ... ?hpt=hp_t2

I almost choked myself breathless in laughter as I read the final sentence of that CNN article !

"A large Christmas tree remained illuminated."
:huh: ^_^ :lol:

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As someone who has never pursued any sort of career, I sometimes think of the aspiring career-journalist who studies many long years in university/academy, then starts scribbling for some local newspaper, doggedly struggling away to climb the steep ladder of his ultra-competitive line of work, many long hard years later finally getting his foot into the doors of CNN, eventually clinching a foreign assignment to cover a terror attack in Belgium, and then typing his news report (of a madman's murderous shooting rampage) in his 5-star hotel room, ending his article with this rapturous final sentence filled with humanity and hope... :

"A large Christmas tree remained illuminated."

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"Cheer up, Belgium! Keep shopping!"
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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One of the early reports [I can't remember where I read it] said there was more than one culprit and that one of them had 'blown himself up on a roof' or some such comment.
Seemed bizarre then and doesn't seem to have gotten any clearer since.
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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grav wrote:Seems like kind of a "dud" story..

I always wonder if some terror-hoaxes are intended to be big headlines like Oslo/Norway, but the operators screw up some part of the Psyop at some point and have to downgrade it to Page 2 news, instead of risking too much attention in the spotlight.
I think they are changing strategy here, now that terrorist attacks are "common sense" culturally, we have more but smaller events creating a wider falseflag curtain.
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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Someone posting on Reddit. Not sure if he is really pretending to be a victim or is just trolling for fun.
First of all I want to excuse me for my bad English. The reason why I do this AMA is so I can get my mind straight, still I'm very confused about everything. I also had a little AMA on [http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comme ... gian_city/](this) post, you can also learn there what terrible thing happened in Belgium today. I also don't really know how to prove this this is real, so sorry to the mods.

I was walking with a friend of mine in the streets, there was a Christmas market, we just came back from our school, we had exams. Then suddenly we heard a big 'bang' sound, apparently that was a grenade, I saw people jumping and running away from what I could see 'smoke' where the grenade exploded. Not long after that there was gunfire. Everyone in the street went down for a moment but soon there was complete chaos. Everybody was pushing and pulling each others, I saw people getting shot at but just keeped on running while I was holding onto the shoulder of my friend not to lose him. And then it happened, at first I didn't feel much, I knew I was hurt, but I tought it was somebody who dropped something on my leg or walked on it, I only really noticed I was shot when I stopped running and thought I was safe, it was a grazing-shot but it stinged like hell. The next moment I went to the ambulances that where parked on the market, I was brought to the hospital together with other 'light-wounded' people. When I arrived I was shocked of all the people I saw there, most of them where relatives searching for their wounded family or friends. I got a quik treatment and had to make place for somebody who was unconscious laying on the bed with what I saw with a bullet in his stomach. I hope I can awnser some questions now but I'll go to bed soon, if I can sleep that is... Edit: I am going to sleep now, It's 11pm in my country right now, I don't know if this will get much questions but if there are, I'll answer them tomorrow, I think I will be more able to answer them then!
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/n ... ium_today/
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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grav wrote:Someone posting on Reddit. Not sure if he is really pretending to be a victim or is just trolling for fun.
First of all I want to excuse me for my bad English. The reason why I do this AMA is so I can get my mind straight, still I'm very confused about everything. I also had a little AMA on [http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comme ... gian_city/](this) post, you can also learn there what terrible thing happened in Belgium today. I also don't really know how to prove this this is real, so sorry to the mods.

I was walking with a friend of mine in the streets, there was a Christmas market, we just came back from our school, we had exams. Then suddenly we heard a big 'bang' sound, apparently that was a grenade, I saw people jumping and running away from what I could see 'smoke' where the grenade exploded. Not long after that there was gunfire. Everyone in the street went down for a moment but soon there was complete chaos. Everybody was pushing and pulling each others, I saw people getting shot at but just keeped on running while I was holding onto the shoulder of my friend not to lose him. And then it happened, at first I didn't feel much, I knew I was hurt, but I tought it was somebody who dropped something on my leg or walked on it, I only really noticed I was shot when I stopped running and thought I was safe, it was a grazing-shot but it stinged like hell. The next moment I went to the ambulances that where parked on the market, I was brought to the hospital together with other 'light-wounded' people. When I arrived I was shocked of all the people I saw there, most of them where relatives searching for their wounded family or friends. I got a quik treatment and had to make place for somebody who was unconscious laying on the bed with what I saw with a bullet in his stomach. I hope I can awnser some questions now but I'll go to bed soon, if I can sleep that is... Edit: I am going to sleep now, It's 11pm in my country right now, I don't know if this will get much questions but if there are, I'll answer them tomorrow, I think I will be more able to answer them then!
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/n ... ium_today/
Does he give his name?
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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Not from what I can see... his reddit name is gH0o5T

Here's a link to all his posts he's made about the event.

http://www.reddit.com/user/gH0o5T

this was his first comment I believe..
Hi, I got shot in the leg in Luik, right now I'm home but a few minutes ago I was in the hospital, I didn't get 'that' much care because it was only a 'schampschot' (please fellow Belgian redditors, translate this, my English is not good enough). The docter that treated me had to take a bullet out of somebody's stomach. AMA Soon I'll upload proof so you don't have to think I'm karma whoring or anything.
No "proof" has been uploaded as far as I can tell.
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Re: Belgium Grenade Attack

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The story of the italian right-wing antisemitic nut is getting more and more interesting.

In an hilarious article published on corriere.it we are told that Gianluca Casseri in 2010 wrote a sci-fi novel together with an italian writer, Enrico Rulli. The book was called "La chiave del Caos", the Chaos Key.
The book is reviewed here: http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/no ... -del-caos/
(Sorry both sources are obviously in italian).
The book is given as "non available" on the publishing house website: http://www.edizionilpuntodincontro.it/e ... m-480.html

Enrico Rulli on amazon.it: http://www.amazon.it/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?_ ... li&x=0&y=0
La Chiave del Caos on amazon.it: http://www.amazon.it/chiave-del-caos-Na ... 945&sr=8-2

It is the same Enrico Rulli himself, though, to explain to the corriere.it journalist that Casseri had a few movies at home from which he took inspiration, such as "Falling Down" and "Dirty Harry". :blink: :lol: :D
It gets even better when we learn that Enrico Rulli comes from a left-wing communist background, while Casseri apparently was a racist neo-nazi, follower of Julius Evola and the like.
An unlikely alliance, isn't it.

Finally Rulli tell us that maybe he will "write a book about his friend". Of course.

Now the story of the book is particularly interesting in my opinion because, apparently the book stands there to declare without a doubt that this Casseri was real person. However, even if the book is real, it is written together with Rulli, so it is quite possible to imagine that Rulli, the one who is an actual writer, simply wrote the book himself, giving credit to this fictitious name later to be used in this particular PsyOp. It all depends on who this Rulli person really is. I couldn't find much about him so far.

A few pictures of Casseri, though:

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From http://www.corriere.it/cronache/11_dice ... 4620.shtml

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From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... unman.html

And certainly the most interesting one, once again with the Lacoste product placement. Casseri seems to be wearing a "Gladio" T-shirt:

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From http://www.crimeblog.it/post/8457/spara ... -di-destra

What are the odds of having two pictures of this guy in front of the same wooden wall, with different clothes on?

On the website youreporter.it (that appears to be always supporting faked and hyped events with alleged spontaneous reports from the streets, see the Rome riots or the Genoa rainstorms) I find a non-blurred version of the Lacoste shot featured above -- here it is:

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From http://www.youreporter.it/foto_non_muoi ... _ammazzano

The picture, posted on the 13th, apparently describes a moment happened long before the events of Florence. It comes with a brief comment about Casseri significantly entitled "I won't die even if they kill me" (No explanation is given for this odd title). The post explains that Casseri is a well known author, once again citing the same "Chaos Key" alleged authored book, and also raising an interesting connection to the last novel by Umberto Eco, staged in Prague like "The Chaos Key", and about the Protocols of the Elders of Sion. Casseri, we are told, also authored a pamphlet against Eco's book and its historical reconstruction on the origins of the protocols.

And yet, Eco's book "The Prague Cemetery" disapponted the zionist community for its not perfect adherence to the official story of the Protocols.

Eco is a very important author, and I am starting to suspect that, by promoting a book by a fascist "antisemite" who happens to find Eco's opinions on the Protocols not anti-jewish enough, this terror event might have in Eco one of its secondary targets, as a payback for having gotten a bit out of line. We'll see how that particular angle will develop...
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