Also from youreporter.it --see previous post.
The same contributor, "cucciolotto" (a childish nickname that sounds a bit like "teddy bear" or "little pet" or something) who posted about Casseri being a real author and all that, also happens to be the one posting the video of the shooting in the parking lot where Casseri allegedly kills himself!
Only, when commenting these videos, cucciolotto does not define Casseri a "friend" and "author" anymore, but a "racist killer". Funny like that.
video part 1:
http://www.youreporter.it/video_FIRENZE ... PARCHEGGIO
video part 2:
http://www.youreporter.it/video_FIRENZE ... SPARATORIA
Now what are the odds, for this "old friend" of Gianluca Casseri, to also be the person who have access to the security camera videos that portrait this shooting?
And if "cucciolotto" is not Casseri's friend, but just someone posting that story, what is the source of the Lacoste picture of Casseri and the description that mentions Eco's book? And what is the source of these security camera videos? Youreporter.it doesn't say. So much for peer-reviewed reporting.
12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
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Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
The name Gladio is the Italian form of gladius, a type of Roman shortsword...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
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Yeah, Casseri's shirt features a gladio, a helm and a short lance. It probably has not to do with the infamous NATO stay-behind organization. Still, it is a classical fascist-like variation on the theme. In italy it is almost like walking around with a "I love Mussolini" t-shirt. Would a communist sympathizer write a book together with a guy who goes around dressed like that? And more importantly, who is the guy in the Lacoste shirt? And how photoshopped is that shot?
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Mr Casseri shot himself with a 357 Magnum.
A 357 magnum bullet has enough energy to break a wall.
E = ((V^2) x P)/19620.
V = bullet speed mt/sec,
P = bullet weight gramms,
ie a.357 Magnum (weight = 148 grs) has a firing speed of 430 mt/sec, his energy is 90,3 Kgmeters. ((430*430)*9,56)/19620
It raises a 90.3 kg body a meter
I don't see any hole in Mr Cassieri WV Polo body.
A magic bullet!
Strange, very strange.
A 357 magnum bullet has enough energy to break a wall.
E = ((V^2) x P)/19620.
V = bullet speed mt/sec,
P = bullet weight gramms,
ie a.357 Magnum (weight = 148 grs) has a firing speed of 430 mt/sec, his energy is 90,3 Kgmeters. ((430*430)*9,56)/19620
It raises a 90.3 kg body a meter
I don't see any hole in Mr Cassieri WV Polo body.
A magic bullet!
Strange, very strange.
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
What is the colour of Mr Cassieri WV polo?
1) Bianca (White) according to Repubblica?
http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2011/1 ... ef=HRER2-1
2) Chiara (pale)(bianca o grigia (grey or white)) according to Toscana News24 ?
http://www.toscananews24.it/it/notizia/ ... fault.aspx
3) Scura (Black) according to YouReporter?
You choose!
1) Bianca (White) according to Repubblica?
http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2011/1 ... ef=HRER2-1
2) Chiara (pale)(bianca o grigia (grey or white)) according to Toscana News24 ?
http://www.toscananews24.it/it/notizia/ ... fault.aspx
3) Scura (Black) according to YouReporter?
You choose!
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Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Well spotted, corsarino. The video at the parking lot clearly shows a dark VW Polo, and yet we are told that passersby at the market noticed a bright-colored car of the same kind. Apparently people even photographed him with their cellphones, as he climbed on it. We'll see if those pictures ever pop up.
From two articles on corriere.it,
http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 6182.shtml
http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 0978.shtml
we learn that:
1) Casseri used to build its own bullets in the basement of his brother's house (sort of like Breivik, of course);
2) In florence he lived in an apartment leased to him by none other than, once again, writer Enrico Rulli;
3) The police is investigating a possible network of contacts that could have helped Casseri -- only to state elsewhere that Casseri acted alone (but they still have to raid homes and shut down organizations, as a demonstration of a shift in the use of power: the idea of a "network" is necessary to this kind of psyop);
4) The apartment where he lived in Florence appeared "emptied out" and cleaned when the police raided it 2 hours after the shooting (only some books were left).
About this last point: of course, the only person to actually testify this must have been, once again, Enrico Rulli who, as landlord and friend of Casseri could state that in the apartment there was a lot of Casseri's stuff only the day before, since Casseri apparently had moved in in June.
However, it is also very easy to imagine that maybe the apartment was empty to begin with -- because nobody really lived there -- because there was no "Gianluca Casseri" in the first place.
None of this would be very difficult to accomplish if, say, Enrico Rulli worked for an organization like the italian secret service and the apartment was in a building property of and controlled by the same organization -- something that we have seen happening, for example, with the Moro case.
From two articles on corriere.it,
http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 6182.shtml
http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 0978.shtml
we learn that:
1) Casseri used to build its own bullets in the basement of his brother's house (sort of like Breivik, of course);
2) In florence he lived in an apartment leased to him by none other than, once again, writer Enrico Rulli;
3) The police is investigating a possible network of contacts that could have helped Casseri -- only to state elsewhere that Casseri acted alone (but they still have to raid homes and shut down organizations, as a demonstration of a shift in the use of power: the idea of a "network" is necessary to this kind of psyop);
4) The apartment where he lived in Florence appeared "emptied out" and cleaned when the police raided it 2 hours after the shooting (only some books were left).
About this last point: of course, the only person to actually testify this must have been, once again, Enrico Rulli who, as landlord and friend of Casseri could state that in the apartment there was a lot of Casseri's stuff only the day before, since Casseri apparently had moved in in June.
However, it is also very easy to imagine that maybe the apartment was empty to begin with -- because nobody really lived there -- because there was no "Gianluca Casseri" in the first place.
None of this would be very difficult to accomplish if, say, Enrico Rulli worked for an organization like the italian secret service and the apartment was in a building property of and controlled by the same organization -- something that we have seen happening, for example, with the Moro case.
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Excuse me, gentlemen!
What is the correct name?
Casseri or Cassieri?
Google says 373.000 Casseri and 452 Cassieri.
What is the correct name?
Casseri or Cassieri?
Google says 373.000 Casseri and 452 Cassieri.
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Corsarino,
I see what you're getting at, but to be technically correct...
A run-of-the-mill .357Magnum round is typically 140gr @1200fps.
Using SI units we have:
K=1/2mv^2
=1/2*(140/(7000gr/lb*2.205lb/kg))*(1200ft/s*1m/3.048ft)^2 = 743kgm^2/s^2 = 743J
Assuming a=9.81 m/s^2, we can lift 75.7kg a height of 1 meter.
Thanks for your post... are you a shooter?
I see what you're getting at, but to be technically correct...
A run-of-the-mill .357Magnum round is typically 140gr @1200fps.
Using SI units we have:
K=1/2mv^2
=1/2*(140/(7000gr/lb*2.205lb/kg))*(1200ft/s*1m/3.048ft)^2 = 743kgm^2/s^2 = 743J
Assuming a=9.81 m/s^2, we can lift 75.7kg a height of 1 meter.
Thanks for your post... are you a shooter?
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
@proloft
Sorry, but I'm not a shooter.
I say 90,3 Kgm, you say 75,7 Kgm. (nearly the same)
I mean that a .357 magnum is a big gun, and a .357gunshot "must" have a realistic effect especially in a little space like inside a tiny car.
Pay attention at hh14.56.10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzDrlQFTe8
it is the only movement of the car.
I think they shot the tyres of the WV Polo, because the car went down and didn't return up.
Sorry, but I'm not a shooter.
I say 90,3 Kgm, you say 75,7 Kgm. (nearly the same)
I mean that a .357 magnum is a big gun, and a .357gunshot "must" have a realistic effect especially in a little space like inside a tiny car.
Pay attention at hh14.56.10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzDrlQFTe8
it is the only movement of the car.
I think they shot the tyres of the WV Polo, because the car went down and didn't return up.
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Excuse me, gentlemen.
They showed us the video of Mr. Cassieri's shooting, but why they didn't show any video of:
a) the guy (Mr Casseri?) driving into the parking area;
b) the guy (Mr Casseri?) parking and going out his car;
c) the guy (Mr Casseri?) coming back and setting himself in the passenger seat of his car?
Do these videos exist?
I'm not sure about.
They showed us the video of Mr. Cassieri's shooting, but why they didn't show any video of:
a) the guy (Mr Casseri?) driving into the parking area;
b) the guy (Mr Casseri?) parking and going out his car;
c) the guy (Mr Casseri?) coming back and setting himself in the passenger seat of his car?
Do these videos exist?
I'm not sure about.
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In case there was any doubt as to the direction in which these events are supposed to push us (and why it is completely cretin to believe that actual extremists could think that their ideas gain more popularity with a "terror" act). Here are a few images from the marches in solidarity of the immigrants "killed by Giancluca Casseri".
From http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/20 ... 6776977/1/
Yes, the Soros "fist", you recognized it...
From http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/20 ... 6776977/1/
Yes, the Soros "fist", you recognized it...
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
There is a clue about a racket about the management of immigrants.
http://www.linkiesta.it/firenze-come-ro ... o-un-pazzo
They tell that Mafia from Calabria ('ndrina) wants to spread terror in order to get an economic gain.
I dont know if it is right or wrong, and how much it is correct.
I think this is the same as the "Stefano Anelli aka John Kleeves" case.
http://www.vivamafarka.com/forum/index. ... ic=92408.0
http://www.linkiesta.it/firenze-come-ro ... o-un-pazzo
They tell that Mafia from Calabria ('ndrina) wants to spread terror in order to get an economic gain.
I dont know if it is right or wrong, and how much it is correct.
I think this is the same as the "Stefano Anelli aka John Kleeves" case.
http://www.vivamafarka.com/forum/index. ... ic=92408.0
Re: 12-13-2011 - Liege and Florence "lone nut" attacks
Pay attention to hh 14:53:18
and................hh 14:55:56
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzDrlQFTe8
[url]http://www%20.youtube.com%20/%20watch?%20v%20=%20qOzDrlQFTe8[/url]
They lost 158 seconds of recording.
At hh 14:56:42 a man run to the exit.
At 14:56:52 a carabiniere motociclista picks up something from the floor.
and................hh 14:55:56
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzDrlQFTe8
[url]http://www%20.youtube.com%20/%20watch?%20v%20=%20qOzDrlQFTe8[/url]
They lost 158 seconds of recording.
At hh 14:56:42 a man run to the exit.
At 14:56:52 a carabiniere motociclista picks up something from the floor.