Kenya Nairobi Westgate Mall Shooting
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Doctor says gunmen tortured hostages source:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11131338
A police doctor scouring Nairobi's Westgate mall for bodies after a four-day siege by Islamist gunmen that killed dozens has said victims were tortured before they died, according to a Kenyan newspaper.
"Those are not allegations. Those are f****** truths," the doctor, a forensics expert, told the Star newspaper.
"They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil, then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually, if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers."
The information could not be independently verified, but William Pike, the British editor of the Star, said the reporters working on the story had been given similar accounts from other sources. "We have [the source] on a recording. He was talking very graphically, and he was very angry."
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[...] Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku [...] said an "insignificant" number of bodies are still trapped.
Ghoulish accounts on the fate of the hostages have circulated Nairobi and there have been claims the military was forced to blow up part of the Westgate complex not just to bring the siege to an end, but to end the appalling suffering of hostages amid reports that some were raped, and others beheaded and their heads thrown out of the windows.
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I'm starting to get the impression that, because this non-event is alleged to have taken place in Africa, the writers of these psyops feel they can inject a lot more stupidity into the mix. Maybe they feel that most of the 'western' world 'knows' that Africa is full of primitive, violent, low-IQ thugs who believe in witch-craft (etc etc), so we are more likely to believe un-believable shit when it happens there.
I also love the way they 'humanised' the sim-doctor by giving him juicy lines full of ripe language. Balls! And the way the Interior Sim-ister salved the wounds of families waiting for news of their loved ones by referring to the number of dead-loved-ones as insignificant. It is just, like, sooo yesterday.
A police doctor scouring Nairobi's Westgate mall for bodies after a four-day siege by Islamist gunmen that killed dozens has said victims were tortured before they died, according to a Kenyan newspaper.
"Those are not allegations. Those are f****** truths," the doctor, a forensics expert, told the Star newspaper.
"They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil, then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually, if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers."
The information could not be independently verified, but William Pike, the British editor of the Star, said the reporters working on the story had been given similar accounts from other sources. "We have [the source] on a recording. He was talking very graphically, and he was very angry."
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[...] Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku [...] said an "insignificant" number of bodies are still trapped.
Ghoulish accounts on the fate of the hostages have circulated Nairobi and there have been claims the military was forced to blow up part of the Westgate complex not just to bring the siege to an end, but to end the appalling suffering of hostages amid reports that some were raped, and others beheaded and their heads thrown out of the windows.
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I'm starting to get the impression that, because this non-event is alleged to have taken place in Africa, the writers of these psyops feel they can inject a lot more stupidity into the mix. Maybe they feel that most of the 'western' world 'knows' that Africa is full of primitive, violent, low-IQ thugs who believe in witch-craft (etc etc), so we are more likely to believe un-believable shit when it happens there.
I also love the way they 'humanised' the sim-doctor by giving him juicy lines full of ripe language. Balls! And the way the Interior Sim-ister salved the wounds of families waiting for news of their loved ones by referring to the number of dead-loved-ones as insignificant. It is just, like, sooo yesterday.
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Utter nonsense. "He was talking very graphically and was very angry." Therefore it must be true.
So, where are all the photos of these alleged barbaric atrocities? Shouldn't there be at least a few?
So, where are all the photos of these alleged barbaric atrocities? Shouldn't there be at least a few?
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Is this Kenya's bid to host some stupid football tournament or the "Olympics" or some other such nonsense?
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Wonderfully staged photo of a "Somali Muslim" rescuing an American child and her family "as gunmen threw grenades and sprayed bullets yards away". Hero Abdul Haji, just happens to be the son of a former Kenyan security minister.
"Selfless Muslim Civilian Who Rushed INTO Terror And Saved Life Of U.S. Girl, 4, And Her Family"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... afety.html
Apparently, apart from the slaughter and torture that went on inside the mall there are still DOZENS of people still "missing" and unaccounted for after the attack - and STILL no precise death toll has been released. They must be making this up as they go along.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr ... story.html
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Is that girl seriously wearing the Star Spangled banner blouse? There just happens to be a silver plane pen headed right for her, with two grid-like WTC towers twin carts in the background? Could it possibly get anymore like classical propaganda?
Good find. Someone is wasting a lot of time on this bullshit.
Good find. Someone is wasting a lot of time on this bullshit.
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Really? Yards? They must be using those new smokeless grenades and invisible bullets. My goodness, how brave the photographer must be to take such a shot!"...as gunmen threw grenades and sprayed bullets yards away"
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Source:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11132699
Kenyan troops accused of post-massacre mall looting
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Sandeep Vidyarthi went into the mall Sunday to help a relative retrieve equipment from his dental practice. Inside he said he passed shop after shop that had been looted, including the Rado store that sells high-end Swiss watches.
As he was leaving the mall, Vidyarthi passed a jewelry shop near the front entrance. The owner, he said, was presenting security officials with a long list of missing precious stones and high-end necklaces.
"The jeweller had written down this very long list," he said.
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Paving the way for the good old Insurance Claim meme, ala the alleged Silverstein alleged 911 insurance claim.
So, it MUST be real, after all, insurance companies wouldn't pay out for a hoax. [sarcasm]
Kenyan troops accused of post-massacre mall looting
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Sandeep Vidyarthi went into the mall Sunday to help a relative retrieve equipment from his dental practice. Inside he said he passed shop after shop that had been looted, including the Rado store that sells high-end Swiss watches.
As he was leaving the mall, Vidyarthi passed a jewelry shop near the front entrance. The owner, he said, was presenting security officials with a long list of missing precious stones and high-end necklaces.
"The jeweller had written down this very long list," he said.
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Paving the way for the good old Insurance Claim meme, ala the alleged Silverstein alleged 911 insurance claim.
So, it MUST be real, after all, insurance companies wouldn't pay out for a hoax. [sarcasm]
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BBC Panorama - 'Terror in Nairobi'
This tv documentary had masses of supposed camera-phone footage from inside the mall during the attack, as well as plenty of high quality infill camera shots.
Very interesting- has anyone else seen it? Will be rebroadcast on Friday. The reporter and camera team were already in the country before the attack, which was useful...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03d5byk
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BBC One
Fri 4 Oct 2013 00:20
BBC Two
This tv documentary had masses of supposed camera-phone footage from inside the mall during the attack, as well as plenty of high quality infill camera shots.
Very interesting- has anyone else seen it? Will be rebroadcast on Friday. The reporter and camera team were already in the country before the attack, which was useful...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03d5byk
Mon 30 Sep 2013With at least 67 people killed,
the murderous assault on the
Nairobi shopping centre has
brought the terrorist group
al-Shabab to world attention.
A gang, armed with machine
guns and grenades, stalked
the mall singling out non-
Muslims for execution -
Kenyans and foreigners alike.
Pregnant women and children
were among those murdered
in the name of Jihad. With its
roots in war-torn Somalia and
formally allied to al-Qaeda
since last year, al-Shabab is
banned in the US and the UK.
Panorama reporter Peter
Taylor was already in Kenya
as final preparations for the
attack were underway,
investigating the network the
terror group uses to cross the
Somali/Kenyan border at will
and its appeal to radicalised
Muslim youth in Britain and beyond
20:30
BBC One
Fri 4 Oct 2013 00:20
BBC Two
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I like that name -- Al-Shabaab. It's much catchier than Al Qaeda.
Al-Shabaab reminds me of background vocals in 1950s doo wop songs.
Al-Shabaab reminds me of background vocals in 1950s doo wop songs.
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Reportedly (from within the above programme) it means 'The Youth'.lux wrote:
Al-Shabaab reminds me of background vocals in 1950s doo wop songs.
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Shabba !lux wrote: Al-Shabaab reminds me of background vocals in 1950s doo wop songs.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7B9i0IKIcA
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Just a small observation: supposedly the terrorists did everything they could to prevent identification of the victims, but at the same time made them write their own names in blood?
arc300 wrote:Doctor says gunmen tortured hostages source:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11131338
A police doctor scouring Nairobi's Westgate mall for bodies after a four-day siege by Islamist gunmen that killed dozens has said victims were tortured before they died, according to a Kenyan newspaper.
"Those are not allegations. Those are f****** truths," the doctor, a forensics expert, told the Star newspaper.
"They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil, then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually, if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers."
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EXCELLENT point!!! Nicely done.
Jove wrote:Just a small observation: supposedly the terrorists did everything they could to prevent identification of the victims, but at the same time made them write their own names in blood?
arc300 wrote:Doctor says gunmen tortured hostages source:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11131338
A police doctor scouring Nairobi's Westgate mall for bodies after a four-day siege by Islamist gunmen that killed dozens has said victims were tortured before they died, according to a Kenyan newspaper.
"Those are not allegations. Those are f****** truths," the doctor, a forensics expert, told the Star newspaper.
"They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil, then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually, if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers."
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Another failed attempt from CNN's Anderson Cooper at finding some actors who can cry=shed tears during his interviews!
"Kenya Mall Attack Survivor..." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/10/world ... ?hpt=hp_c3
"Kenya Mall Attack Survivor..." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/10/world ... ?hpt=hp_c3
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It's like he has some reverse Botox agent that keeps his brow perpetually furrowed in an expression of feigned concern. Then when the fake crying starts the prop handkerchiefs are produced on cue. Probably just like they did it in rehearsal, only slightly more or less awkwardly. I guess they don't do infinite takes of this nonsense.sharing wrote:Another failed attempt from CNN's Anderson Cooper at finding some actors who can cry=shed tears during his interviews!
"Kenya Mall Attack Survivor..." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/10/world ... ?hpt=hp_c3