Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby Intothevoid on June 17th, 2016, 4:02 am

Apparently Tevin Crosby owned a business in Saginaw Michigan called Total Entrepreneurs Concepts. There is a website for the company http://totalentrepreneursconcepts.com and it shows up on Google maps. He was quite successful for a young man of 25 years... <_<


Jacqueline Scott however, who was quoted in several local news articles as Mr. Crosby's high school English teacher at West Iredell High School does seem to be a legitimate teacher and is listed as a faculty member at the school. Ellyn Gaither, assistant principal is also quoted in the article. http://m.statesville.com/news/it-s-hear ... l?mode=jqm.
Here is the link to the school's staff. http://www.iss.k12.nc.us/site/Default.a ... toryType=6


Honestly, I'm having a hard time believing so many school staff members would lie?
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby hoi.polloi on June 17th, 2016, 4:43 am

Intothevoid wrote:Apparently Tevin Crosby owned a business in Saginaw Michigan called Total Entrepreneurs Concepts. There is a website for the company http://totalentrepreneursconcepts.com and it shows up on Google maps. He was quite successful for a young man of 25 years... <_<


Jacqueline Scott however, who was quoted in several local news articles as Mr. Crosby's high school English teacher at West Iredell High School does seem to be a legitimate teacher and is listed as a faculty member at the school. Ellyn Gaither, assistant principal is also quoted in the article. http://m.statesville.com/news/it-s-hear ... l?mode=jqm.
Here is the link to the school's staff. http://www.iss.k12.nc.us/site/Default.a ... toryType=6


Honestly, I'm having a hard time believing so many school staff members would lie?


That's a great start, Intothevoid. As for so many school staff lying, what you have listed so far is a High School teacher and assistant principal? Is this the grand total for people giving stories about Tevin Crosby? So he went to High School in Iredell, then went to Michigan? Is that the idea? Did you find out if this Tevin Crosby had a middle name like Eugune? Do we know what college it is said he attended? Anything interesting about that?
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby Intothevoid on June 17th, 2016, 11:25 am

That's a great start, Intothevoid. As for so many school staff lying, what you have listed so far is a High School teacher and assistant principal? Is this the grand total for people giving stories about Tevin Crosby? So he went to High School in Iredell, then went to Michigan? Is that the idea? Did you find out if this Tevin Crosby had a middle name like Eugune? Do we know what college it is said he attended? Anything interesting about that?


I do apologize Hoi as it was getting late after a long days work. There are many people who shared stories about Mr. Crosby and perhaps I should refrain from posting until I have a complete list of research to share with the forum. I will also keep my personal thoughts out of this as they are purely speculative. To address a few points you mentioned:

"Tevin Eugene Crosby graduated from West Iredell High in Statesville in 2010" as quoted from The Charlotte Observer news paper. Note the spelling of the middle name.

"Crosby studied business administration at Strayer University South in Charlotte"
I haven't researched Strayer University South at this time but I do recall their advertisements running for the last several years on local television.

Link http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/l ... 04477.html

I'm not finished researching. I'm not convinced of anything at this time. This is my first real attempt at adding quality information to this forum and as a newbie I must say it can be time consuming! :)
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby CluedIn on June 17th, 2016, 2:09 pm

This is what I've found looking at Tevin's company: http://www.totalentrepreneursconcepts.com/index.html

Looks phony. Flashy without any real info. No client list.

About Us: Total Entrepreneurs Concepts is an In-Store Marketing company that represents the leaders in Home Entertainment inside the worlds largest retailers.

In-Store Marketing is the process of captivating the consumer’s attention to a specific brand or product inside of a retail environment. There are many different ways to grab attention, whether it be through the use of signage, demonstrations, displays or even live presentation/representation. All of these forms have their own significant value and can be utilized to target specific markets. These concepts have become increasingly important to every retailer and the clients that do business in their stores.

There is alot of product placement in these events these days. Somebody has to coordinate that. Tevin sounds like an absolute business genius!

http://www.marketwired.com/press-releas ... 125875.htm

"Conveniently located in Central Michigan, Total Entrepreneurs Concepts is the leading marketing firm in the region acquiring two multi-million dollar clients within their first year of business. As production mounts, the opportunity for expansion is at the forefront of the management team's annual goals. Leading the pack, Director of Operations, Tevin Crosby has grown the Saginaw market by 67% in the last year. By the end of 2016, Total Entrepreneurs Concepts is projected to sign a third national brand, continuing to catapult the organization to new heights."

This company started in 2015 and news articles claim it has 2 multimillion dollar clients and were on their way to a third which was to be announced at the end of the summer. This article, dated May 17, 2016, does not name the 2 multi-million dollar clients TEC has.

Pictures from their FB page (no pics or even a listing of employees on their website) https://www.facebook.com/TotalEntrepreneursConcepts. Also no condolence messages on the website or FB page.

At a convention? No ID tags around their necks or badge? Also, the only white guy in the picture resembles Christina Grimmie's killer (IMO)?
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All company awards presented in an empty room with an old phone hook-up on the floor. And nice shoes with a suit.
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Right shoulder aligns perfectly with wall corner. Also, the award the girl, Miranda (Warning?) is holding, looks like a guy not her.
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Tevin seems to be in the back in a lot of group shots.
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby CluedIn on June 17th, 2016, 3:11 pm

Omar as a child:
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-life-of-v ... 1466127324

A look at Mateen’s troubled life, based on interviews with officials and people who knew him, as well as documents, reveals that on at least a dozen occasions, beginning when he was in grade school, he gave clues in a public setting that he was capable of mayhem. At age 14, he said he could shoot an AK-47 and mimicked an airplane flying into the World Trade Center. At 26, he bragged to courthouse co-workers of terrorist ties.

Robert Zirkle, who knew him through school in 2001, said: “We joked that he’d become a terrorist. And then he did.”

Omar Mateen’s trouble began early. He was disciplined at school 31 times between 1992 and 1999, for reasons including hitting another student, school records show. He was constantly demanding attention, either as a goofball or a bully, regularly wearing a gym shirt in high school emblazoned with his name, “O. Mateen,” classmates said.

Kathleen Zurich, who said she taught Mateen in fourth and fifth grade, characterized him as a bully who called classmates “ugly” or “gay” and painted himself as a victim—but had a softer side. “That’s the scary part,” she said. “There was a nice side of him that you can see, and yet he can be so nasty. Almost like a Dr. Jekyll and Hyde personality.” - (you just never know who will crack and when!)

The last sentence sums things up nicely:

Mateen was hired by G4S, essentially working as a security guard. People who encountered him for a few minutes each day at various sites described him as jovial and pleasant. But in a video that surfaced this week, showing Mateen in 2010 at a gate to the BP PLC cleanup site, he again expresses grievance, albeit calmly.

“Once people get laid off here it’s gonna suck for them,” Mateen said to a woman recording with a secret camera for the documentary “The Big Fix.” “They want more disaster to happen, ’cause that’s where their moneymaking is.”
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby hoi.polloi on June 17th, 2016, 4:51 pm

Good notes, all.

CluedIn, those corporate pictures are quite suspicious, aren't they? Like a lot of spooky corporate sites, though, and like the wanting-to-seem-professional sites that imitate them. Which is it? It could really be anything. Corporate cults are so good at ambiguity and political appearance, and even their seeming amateur-ness is forgiven by the public eye.

Intothevoid wrote:I'm not finished researching. I'm not convinced of anything at this time. This is my first real attempt at adding quality information to this forum and as a newbie I must say it can be time consuming!


No kidding! I agree. We almost need a news service of some kind to celebrate any of the fact checking we do, since it's time consuming and exhausting, and we can't just flood the forum with congratulations even when there are so many great members contributing lately.

But I do want to say: good catch on the middle name. "Eugune" begins to look like a clerical error, except it's in a rather official place, and again — "gun" in the name and only voting absentee in the Obama Presidential reelection. So which is it — Eugene or Eugune? (Some public record searches show Eugene.)

One is reminded of anarchistic calls to avoid legal names, legal ties, etc. etc. People "in the know" would surely be as phobic of legal proceedings as the average person, if not more, because of what it can expose about them. As such, people of a certain clandestine persuasion may even go so far as to name their child and raise them with an explicit freedom from such ties. They might be given a deliberately "mainstream" name in order to use in the society and then drop after an operation. Like backstopping for a spy, but intended as a generic insurance for their kid, who can always go through another naming ceremony. Anyway, a legal name is just a legal name, making some of this moot, but I would not be surprised if the cabal culture were to be thinking of these things. When they sloppily crafted his character, whenever they did so, they might have just misspelled the name and not really bothered to check because — hell, it's not important anyway!

It also makes me think asking his parents will glean nothing. They would be involved. A family affair, as we tend to see in these things. Maybe I am reading too much into a typo. Time will tell.
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby SacredCowSlayer on June 17th, 2016, 6:53 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:Good notes, all.

CluedIn, those corporate pictures are quite suspicious, aren't they? Like a lot of spooky corporate sites, though, and like the wanting-to-seem-professional sites that imitate them. Which is it? It could really be anything. Corporate cults are so good at ambiguity and political appearance, and even their seeming amateur-ness is forgiven by the public eye.


Well I wouldn't disagree with the characterization of spooky and/or amateur, but I'll add that it's quite sloppy and pitiful as well.

Just take a look at a close up of the images posted by Cluedin.

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It's really astounding when you look closely at this imagery. But it all passes because the vast majority of people never even consider looking with a critical eye or any skepticism.

Great work everyone so far on this latest scam that has got so many people upset and fighting with each other. The psychopaths "in charge" don't have to fear anything so long as people are constantly fighting with each other (that is when they aren't being scared of terrorists).
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby hoi.polloi on June 17th, 2016, 9:20 pm

Who's fighting? I was going to point out the glowing finger myself but I thought it was rather pointedly self-evident!
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I feel as though we are all doing good work generating discussion and predicting what people do and will say about the Psy-Op, so that we can sort of rehearse how to talk about it.

Hopefully you can read my devil's advocacy as an argument for us to do just what you did: look closer!

And you make a good point, sir. B)

SacredCowSlayer wrote:... I'll add that it's quite sloppy and pitiful as well.


That it is! That it is!
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby CluedIn on June 17th, 2016, 11:47 pm

Akyra Monet Murray & Tiara Parker:

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Akyra went to Orlando with her family and Patience Carter. However, all of the articles I have read only refer to Patience as "a friend".

http://thegrio.com/2016/06/14/youngest- ... ra-murray/

From the article:

“She was saying she was shot and she was screaming, saying she was losing a lot of blood. I just tried to tell her to remain calm and apply pressure to the wound." Natalie Murray said. “All I could hear was my baby screaming. Murray said her daughter was hiding in a bathroom stall, her arm bleeding for hours with no medical treatment.

"For 27 hours, Murray said the family searched Orlando-area hospitals looking for Akyra. ;) We just wanted to know for ourselves,” she said. “We wanted somebody to tell us something.” - How many hospitals are in Orlando? Did they look at the club at all?

Mom, all choked up :P


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6zbwfxuz8

1:25 I need the GPS for the phone, I need to call the cops I need to disconnect? WHAT?

And finally: http://www.people.com/article/orlando-m ... lls-horror

"Tiara could tell that people around her were dying, and everyone stayed silent. Tiara says she and her friends used a system similar to Morse code to communicate with each other that they were alive, tapping each other lightly on the leg, arm or back every few minutes." :wacko:
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby nonhocapito on June 18th, 2016, 12:11 am

This from The Vigilant Citizen

2016-06-18 04_10_28-News and info.jpg

From http://vigilantcitizen.com/pics-of-the- ... onth-0616/

More here: http://downstreampolitics.com/2016/06/1 ... ite-house/
Don't know what to make of this.
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby CluedIn on June 18th, 2016, 3:49 am

Looks like this Indian actor - also named Siddique (spelled different)

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Siddique is an Indian film actor, producer, and television compere. He has starred in over 250 Malayalam films. Siddique made his acting debut with the film Aa Neram Alppa Dooram. He got a break with the comedy film In Harihar Nagar. Due to its success, Siddique acted in a variety of comic roles during the early-1990s in films such as Godfather, Manthrikacheppu, Simhavalan Menon, Kasargode Khadarbhai, Thiruthalvaadi, Mughamudra, Kunukkitta Kozhi, and Welcome to Kodaikanal. Siddique turned to more serious roles with Asuravamsam and Lelam. He did a strong villain role in Sathyameva Jayathe, and post its success has done a variety of villain roles. In 2004, he was awarded the Kerala State Film Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performances in Sasneham Sumitra and Choonda. Siddique ventured into production by co-producing the film Nandanam under the banner Bhavana Cinema.
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby CluedIn on June 18th, 2016, 6:01 pm

A company registered in Florida called, The Durand Jirga, Inc. is a non-profit owned by Omar's Dad, and his sisters are on the Board. The sisters names are Sabrina Seddique and Mary Seddique. Why are the girls last names the father's first name?

http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/Corpor ... 0000111390

The company was registered in 2010 and in 2012 an Amendment was added.

Original Articles of Inc.:

http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/Corpor ... 0000011139

Purpose: The Durand Jirga Inc., organized for exclusively religious, charitable, educational and scientific purposes within the meaning of Section 501(c)(3). Specifically the organization will mediate and attempt to resolve social and territorial disputes. ?? (sounds like this was lifted from a company he may own in Afghanistan)

C. NO PART of the activities of the corporation shall be CARRYING ON PROPAGANDA, or otherwise attempting to influence legislation or participating in, or intervening in (including the publication or distribution of statements) any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office.

http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/Corpor ... 0000011139

Amendment - The date hand written on the cover letter to add the Amendment was January 29, 2011, but recording was not until Feb. 2, 2012.

No SUBSTANTIAL PART of the activities of this corporation shall consist of CARRYING ON PROPAGANDA, or otherwise attempting to influence legislation.
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Re: British MP dead after shooting attack, 16 June 2016

Postby nonhocapito on June 18th, 2016, 8:17 pm

Orlando shooting survivor harassed by online conspiracy kooks as a ‘crisis actor’ in a staged event
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/orlando ... w+Story%29

Discovering that Carter is an intern at Fox 29 in Philadelphia, conspiracy theorists have latched onto her — accusing her of being a fraud who was paid to be part of a staged event to bring about gun confiscation.


What's better than using a few internet trolls, mixed with real people with real questions, lumping everybody under the 'kooks' epithet, all the while dismissing the idea of "crisis actors" and fakery? I'm actually surprised they didn't come up with this before, as the idea of actors impersonating members of family and survivors seem to be quite popular on the internet, despite all the labels thrown at people who call fakery, and the general google ban on this forum in particular. Why not pretending to "fight back", while making sure that only a certain kind of "opposers" and "kooks" are singled out?

Meanwhile this video got promoted:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IiU89LNUD8

Don't know this channel... I wonder if this is more of that "wellaware" distraction...
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby nonhocapito on June 18th, 2016, 11:36 pm

Just one quick political observation about the whole thing here: the Orlando event seems to have been designed with the idea of catering a bit to everyone, in order to bring the maximum amount of division possible: the guy was a muslim, but also an armed american; he hated gays, but was also gay; his father was a sympathizers of terrorists, but was also a CIA asset; the victims are heroes, but also frauds.

All the contraries, all the contradictions are contained within this story: some say this is helping Trump, but I have a different feeling: just like Trump himself, the Orlando event simply serves to bring more division: after all Trump is not meant to become president! what if he's here only to hold the candle for Hilldog and/or to enrage people and break that feeling of solidarity that the country still carries from 9/11?
Obviously I don't know what's the ultimate goal (Hillary at the wheel? A third candidate? An escalation of violence and more Obama?) so I'll stop here. Would love to read other opinions on this though...
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Re: Pulse Gay Bar Orlando shooting, 12 June 2016

Postby HonestlyNow on June 18th, 2016, 11:37 pm

I went through the list partially (up to Luis Conde), and found these thus far:

Luis S. Vielma, 22, Sanford, Fla.
Yes
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Darryl Roman Burt II, 29
Yes
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Amanda Alvear, 25
Yes
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Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25
Yes, different city
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Enrique L. Rios Jr., 25
Yes, city unknown, not listed as junior
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Miguel Angel Honorato, 30
Yes
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Luis Daniel Conde, 39
Possible, re: no middle name
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What to make of this?


(Edit to fix two links)
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