Nice "Truck Attack" - 14/Jul'16

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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Well, I guess that very often "real images" speak for themselves...

Picture of a cow hit by a truck...

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And picture of the said criminally insane truck, targeting no less than " 100 " freedom lovers...

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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CitronBleu » July 17th, 2016, 3:47 pm wrote:Paul Delane, American who claims he witnessed the Nice attack, interviewed on CNN.
I am having trouble grokking what's going on there behind Paul on that greenscreen in that video you posted. The building behind him to the right looks like the Casino where the truck driver allegedly was finally stopped by police. But the white canvas walls are not police barricade. And the speakers (lights?) up on the raised platform makes it look like the area is closed off for some kind of concert or show (or video production?).

There is a sign above to his left "___AGE." At first I thought it might be 'ETAGE' but then realized there is a bit of an "L" there so it's most likely "PLAGE." So that makes sense. Except it doesn't, because I used google street view to go along the waterfront and find a sign that looks like that. The closest I could find is 'Opera Plage' but it's far from that spot and the background buildings look different. There is one a little bit closer to the casino (though still further away than what we see), but it looks quite different. Not only that, but near the casino, the beach is lower than the sidewalk. You have to go down stairs to access it. You can see that sign if you spin around this google streetview from that approximate location:

https://goo.gl/Udz5OD

If you open that link, you'll see there is a gazebo type structure right there in front of you. On this side of the gazebo, you're further away from the Casino given where this guy is supposed to be standing. And if you go to the other side of the gazebo, you're already too close. So I don't even know where this is supposed to be shot from. You'll see that the 'Plage' sign kind of looks like the front of this gazebo structure, just without the rest of the gazebo and apparently on the beach instead of the sidewalk, with the beach being level with the pavement instead of down below as it is in real life. In fact the 'PLAGE' sign looks like it's on the beach. Many other things don't look right with the background, including the divider with the street, the street lights, plus most of the trees should be palms. Also, the hill in the background does not match at all the topography of this area, which is much flatter.

In short, not only is this joker being filmed in front of a green screen, but whatever is on the green screen is fake, too. It looks like some (outdoor?) studio film lot with a picture of the casino and other buildings in the background pasted or drawn in (I guess). Even the fake is a fake.
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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Even the fake is a fake.
Hello daddie_o, and thank you for your excellent contribution above.

However, on closer inspection, it appears the location of CNN interview with American false witness Paul Delane is in the middle of left lane of the road.

Edit : correction.
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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May I advance a cursory and very hypothetical argument that a possible motive to explain why these tragic indivuduals bear false testimony … is judicial.

Could (at least) some of our (obviously very) false witnesses in this sad, pathetic tragedy be acting under duress by the judicial system to satisfy an exigency in exchange to cancel, postpone, commute, or remit a civil or criminal prosecution ?

Eyewitness testimony is a legal term - why then are these individuals never required to provide testimony in a court of Law ?

Would the aforementioned, misleading and concocted testimony provided by the witnesses alluded to in this thread survive a trial by jury ?

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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FYI,

The boy's shirt contains the Hindu Sri Yantra Symbol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Yantra
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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Nice resident and false witness Tahar Mejri, 39 years old, who allegedly lost his wife and four-year old son in the purported 14 July Nice attack.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCBAgVnFnJM

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Such histrionic behaviour would not survive a witness credibility examination in a trial by jury, but, of course, terrorist crimes are seldom brought to a court of Law - indeed, terror attack witnesses portrayed in the media provide hearsay, not direct testimony, since their testimony is shared and revealed by a third party : the media.

The media are the acting courts of Law of our dysfunctional polity, defining truth through an inadmissible procedure which would be rejected in a legitimate judicial proceeding.

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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CitronBleu » July 18th, 2016, 4:34 pm wrote:
Even the fake is a fake.
Hello daddie_o, and thank you for your excellent contribution above.

However, on closer inspection, it appears the location of CNN interview with American false witness Paul Delane is in the middle of left lane of the road.

Edit : correction.
CitronBleu, I am a bit confused. I saw the original post you made before you edited it. You initially agreed with my analysis and posted 3 pictures that in my mind showed exactly the point I was trying to make. But then apparently you changed your mind. How about putting the the pics you posted back up so people can make up their own minds? If it's not too much trouble.

I think the idea that he is in the middle of the left lane of the road is clearly wrong. For a few reasons:

1. There are no lane markings on the street where he is standing. It is a two-lane road and there should be a lane divider down the middle.

2. You can see what appears to be a bike lane to his right, between him and the grass divider, where the pavement is a bit redder. In the real Nice, that lane is on the promenade, not the street, and there is a divider between it and the street, although it looks different than what we see in this video.

3. On the other side of the divider, we see a street with clear lane markings, whereas there are no lane markings on the pavement where he is standing.

4. On the far side of the street with the lane markings, we see lots of trees. Well if you look on streetview, you can see that there are lots of trees in the median between of the street between the East and West directions, but hardly any on the sidewalk. But if what you say is correct, then the divider we see with no trees would be the median of the street, and the trees would be on the sidewalk.

5. The arch marked 'Plage' seems to extend onto the sand of the beach. It could be a trick of perspective, but I don't think so, and regardless: none of it matches the real location even if he is standing where you say. We can see the sand in the pic, and if what you're saying is correct, we should see a wide promenade between the street and the sand, but we don't. (And the beach is lower than the street in this location in the real Nice.) We should also see a divider between the street where you say he is standing and the non-existent promenade, but we don't.

So for all those reasons, I'm going to say that he is supposed to be standing on the promenade. Anyway I don't think it matters all that much, since none of the details match the actual location regardless. So I stand by my initial conclusion: even the fake is a fake.

This all seems self-evidently clear, so I'd be interested to know why you changed your mind. Unless...

<Citron, blink twice if someone is holding a gun to your head> ;)
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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Hey daddie_o,

Yes, I did initially agree with your observation, however when I looked at a Google Maps picture I determined the perspective made sense if the (alleged) interview location was in the middle of the road (point A in the map) instead of on the Promenade (point B ). The Palais de la Méditérranée casino is in the upper left. The Google Map street view pictures were probably taken a while ago, which means the road scenery could have changed since then.

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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I attempted to capture a snapshot sequence of the following video recording purporting to display the impact between the truck and one or more victims of the alleged 14 July Nice attack.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATbn96P5i-E

This partial documentary evidence, circulated through a third party (information media), is a short sequence recording of the alleged truck driving into or among a crowd of onlookers. The flimsy, unsubstantiated film recording could not be admitted in a court of Law without physical (phone or recording device) and testimonial (witness responsable for recording) evidence to back up its authenticity.

Nevertheless, could a jury determine, through viewing the recording, and beyond reasonable doubt,* the truck portrayed in the video came into contact or caused an impact with a victim ?

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* circumstantial evidence is not evidence beyond doubt : because an individual is in front of a truck driving toward him or her does not constitute absolute proof of impact or contact since we must infer the truck hit the individual (the person may have jumped aside, only to be hit by another vehicle at the last moment). In addition, could the possibility this video was manufactured (through computer graphics imagery editing) be presented in court to a jury ? in particular if the physical or testimonial evidence to back up the video footage is suspect or lacking ?
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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CitronBleu » July 20th, 2016, 1:48 am wrote:Yes, I did initially agree with your observation, however when I looked at a Google Maps picture I determined the perspective made sense if the (alleged) interview location was in the middle of the road (point A in the map) instead of on the Promenade (point B ). The Palais de la Méditérranée casino is in the upper left. The Google Map street view pictures were probably taken a while ago, which means the road scenery could have changed since then.
Thank you for reposting one of your pics. The other two were screen caps -- one from the streetview I linked to (https://goo.gl/Udz5OD)and one to the video of the guy being interviewed. It's possible that the perspective of the guy and the Casino would be correct if he was standing in the street, but if so that's the only thing about the video that makes any sense, regardless of changes to the scenery. I won't bother repeating all the points I've made, but in my mind it's clear enough.

With regard to your post about the video of the truck "crashing" into people, here are some more frames from that video showing people disappearing as they walk towards the truck. Why aren't they running away? And where are they disappearing to? (http://imgur.com/P4bqO4d):

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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The following low-quality video recording of a TV screen purports to present additional (false) eyewtinesses intervewed on the night of the event.

Interviews are recorded on the Promenade des Anglais by French public broacasting TV France 2.

Interview is in French, with no subtitles. Time of interview is not given. Names of witnesses are not stated.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HvXCqMfzWA

Before proceeding on to the matter at hand, may I advance a further hypotethical argument to explain the personal motive for eyewitnesses interviewed is, in exchange for satisfying an exigency to bear false testimony in front of a camera, to potentially achieve residency status.

As I elaborated earlier, information media today are the acting courts of Law of our dysfunctional polity. Let us therefore conduct ourselves as jury, and consider the evidence presented before us with utmost circumspection and caution, taking great care to discern truth from lies despite the fact information presented to us is revealed though a third party (information media) and therefore ought to be considered hearsay.

One of the primary functions of a jury is to consider, assess, and recognize witness credibility.

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False witness Tahar Mejri (previously mentioned) expresses his feeling of frustration while sitting next to a white sheet or blanket, presumably covering the alleged body of his wife, and states “he came to the thing (le machin), to the party, to be with his family," before pointing to the presumed victim on his right and stating “this here is the party, this is the party, this is the force .. (?), this is the party, for me, this is the party, … [incomprehensible] … France …, but for me, this is the party, … [incomprehensible] … it’s done … , my wife is not even thirty years old.”

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[sequence 00:55 - 01:26]

Unnamed false eyewitness crying with no tears.

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[sequence 01:29 - 01:43]

Unnamed false witness with woman speaking loudly on phone behind him - testimony unclear and content of message difficult to discern.

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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You are absolutely correct, daddie_o - great find and great post !

http://imgur.com/P4bqO4d

From comment provided in link :
Watch in slow motion and you can see clearly that this video has been edited. People literally disappear into the truck instead of taking the impact as they would in a real accident.
I modified the picture to better fit the screen, used editing to increase contrast, and cropped out the sequence area fitting the truck frame.

Cheers, mate !

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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Here's a new fad to keep the masses angry - a Garbage Shrine where the terrorist was kilt! :lol:

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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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For the record, I am reproducing false witness Tahar Mejri’s testimony for improved accuracy and clarity.

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Link to video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HvXCqMfzWA

[sequence 00:35 - 00:55]

False witness Tahar Mejri expresses his feeling of frustration while sitting next to a sheet or blanket presumably covering the alleged body of his wife, and states :

“my wife and kid came to the thing (le machin), to the [14 July celebratory] festivity (la fête), and this here is the festivity.”

“This is the festivity.” (C’est ça, la fête.)

“This is the fourteen (14) … for me.”

“This is the festivity.”

“I respect France, I respect everyone, but for me, this is the festivity” (pointing toward the alleged victim).

“The fourteenth of August (le quatorze août) [false witness Tahar Mejri means to say : le 14 juillet, the 14th of July), my son was … [killed], four years old” (mon fils c’est fait … , quatre ans), “and my wife not yet thirty” (et ma femme même pas trente ans). [00:48 - 00:53]

Note : In French, the use of the pronominal verb se faire, in the passive voice, can only indicate a limited number of meanings. However, in this context, we can infer the meaning Mejri is expressing is to be killed or was killed as in to be done.

At [00:21] in the video, before false witness Tahar Mejir made the above assertion, he states :

J’attends le pire, j’attends le pire que mon fils il est mort, c’est fini pour moi. C’est fini pour moi si mon fils est mort. J’ai perdu les deux tout d’un coup.

Translated : “I expect the worst, I expect the worst, that my son is dead, it is the end for me. It is the end for me if he is dead. I lost the both.” [false witness Tahar Mejri’s alleged son and wife]

False witness Tahar Mejri is contradicting himself.
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Re: Nice Attack - 14/Jul'16

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The video of the truck "plowing into crowd" in Nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAC6TCzxZso is credited to German journalist Richard GUTJAHR, the husband of Einat WILF who is an Israeli politician and was a Israel Defense Force Intelligence Officer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einat_Wilf

Richard GUTJAHR was filming from one of the balconies of the WESTMINSTER HOTEL (A). The police stopped the truck nearby the restaurant LA CANNE A SUCRE (B). According to google map the distance between (A) and (B) is 240m.

In an interview on July 15th, this journalist states that the truck didn't really move fast, that it was moving slowly (according to him in the interview with ARCHYXX, moving at about 30km/hr).

In this German journalist's opinion, the "rampage" lasted for about 60 seconds.

240m at 30km/hr for 60 seconds= 84 dead + 100 injured. !?!?!

Article confirming the location of the journalist and that the truck started to move towards the crowd when the journalist began to film http://www.archyxx.com/journalist-richa ... -shooting/

Video interview of Richard GUTJAHR on July 15th
http://www.dw.com/en/attack-witness-ric ... v-19401774

It was about 30°C (86°F) in Nice but the police decided to leave the "dead bodies" rot under the sun for "investigation purpose". !???!

As this German journalist concludes himself at the end of his video interviewit's unreal.
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