Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Anything on the news and elsewhere in the media with evidence of digital manipulation, bogus story-lines and propaganda

Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby nonhocapito on January 14th, 2013, 5:23 am

Just ran into another highly suspicious series of pictures of mr Sugar Mountain, relative to his alleged trip to Russia in October 2012. Especially this picture:

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From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... vedev.html

Please notice:

1) the fake analog effect, that gives an impossibly faded and desaturated look to what can only have originally been a digital picture. This sloppy way to confer reality to faked pictures through artificial aging can be seen commonly used in the 9/11 scam and especially with the pictures of fake victims;

2) the standardized expression of the character in foreground, and yet his not entirely human aspect, especially in relation to his head and neck

3) Similarly to the surreal "bourgeois" surf vacation discussed in previous posts, the nonsensical pretext of the picture, where a billionaire head of one of the most important corporations in the world gets excited because they have McDonalds in Russia. <_<

More shots from the same trip include:

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From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... vedev.html

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From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hirts.html

Also quite unreal to see this rich and famous guy simply walk around Moscow without a security escort. "Unrecognized", declares the DailyMail caption, as if it was even remotely possible. But "Zuckerberg" has to appear a good, nonthreatening guy, to the point of attributing to him impossible and ludicrous behavior. It is how this scam is designed, so to make the enormous power of these pervasive networks of digital control much less intimidating.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby simonshack on March 31st, 2013, 12:07 pm

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ZUCKERBERG TO PAY 1.1 BILLION DOLLARS IN TAXES :rolleyes:


"Zuckerberg pagherà tasse per 1,1 miliardi di dollari" http://www.repubblica.it/economia/2013/ ... f=HREC1-10
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Farcevalue on March 31st, 2013, 2:28 pm

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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby edgewaters on March 31st, 2013, 10:17 pm

Terence.drew wrote:THis whole rings a little of Alex jones and the GOvt being able to look up your toilet etc. so we will see if the Irish investigator has any teeth or uncovers anything...


There's nothing Alex Jones-ish about this at all ... the amount of data FB is collecting on people is truly phenomenal, one only needs to look at FB to see that. It's pretty much indisputable. You've got to think about what the business model is here ... how do they make money? Selling data, of course. It involves a lot of trust to think that it's all just being used for anonymous demographics for marketing. They *have* the information, you have to trust them about how they're using it. I don't believe in trusting faceless organizations.

As far as Zuckerburg, I think the name gives him away as a fabrication of some sort. "Mark" - a word that refers to a likely victim for a con - followed by "Sucker"burg.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Houdini on July 2nd, 2013, 12:15 am

Well, here's a video of him. If he is real, then I tend to go along with the 'figurehead" theory. But all the photos posted in this thread look faked, and he looks like a sim.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2JTu22qxms
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Maat on July 3rd, 2013, 5:04 am

Found this posted on Facebook some time ago & saved it as 'fakebook-funny-fact':

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Ironically, so many actually provide that level of personal details themselves :rolleyes:
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Starbucked on July 3rd, 2013, 7:57 am

^^ Even more shocking is when this behavior is done with anonymity,
as is the case of ratemypoo (dot) com
I chose not to provide a link because you do not need to go there. I went there, and am sorry I did.
If you decide to check it out, please remember, you were warned.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Flabbergasted on November 12th, 2013, 3:35 pm

The Brazilian "humor site" http://www.sencionalista.com.br creates fictitious news, some of which based on real facts, "with the purpose of making people laugh". The who-are-we page hastens to explain that the site does not intend to disseminate rumors and fake news on the internet, but "unfortunately some media outlets inadvertently end up reproducing our articles as if they were real news."

Really? <_<

The slogan of the site is "Um jornal isento de verdade", which would translate as "a truth-free newspaper" or "a truly impartial newspaper". It´s a joke on the word "isento" which is often used about newspapers in the sense of "impartial" or "politically neutral".

Impartial Press! Yeah, right! :rolleyes:

On 09/29/2011, the site published a story about a young couple from São Paulo, the delivery boy Anderson Cerqueira and the office clerk Janete dos Santos, who were said to have met through Facebook. They eventually got married and had a baby. The father wanted to name the child "Facebook", but his plans were thwarted by the rules of the registry office. In the end, the child was registered as "Facebookson" (Facebook + Anderson). People who believe the story jest about the name, saying that if the baby had been a girl, she might have been named "Facebookete (Facebook + Janete). "Boquete" means "blow job" in Portuguese.

An urban legend buster site (http://www.e-farsas.com) brings websurfers out of their misery by revealing the authorship of the prank. We are told that the couple in the picture are really Michelle Strayer and Omar Prado. Allegedly born at Pomona Valley Hospital in Chino Hills, the baby´s name is Ethan James. The father is showing a local newspaper to "prove little Ethan was born that day".

Of course ... why trust US hospital records and birth certificates? :wacko:

The curious thing is that, with the exception of the spurious headline, the "fake" picture and the "real" picture share the same signs of manipulation, as may be seen by zooming in on the newspaper edges and the young man´s fingers, hair, shoulder, the overbright visitor´s sticker, etc.
I wonder where e-farsas.com got the "real" picture from. A search for Michelle Strayer and Omar Prado and Daily Bulletin yielded no appreciable results (edit: except the same story over and over on Brazilian sites and blogs).

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In any case, I love the headline of the newspaper in the "real" picture:
New reality sinking in.

Sources:
http://www.e-farsas.com/casal-batiza-o- ... falso.html
http://www.sensacionalista.com.br/2011/ ... -no-mundo/
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Flabbergasted on May 20th, 2014, 4:33 pm

Houdini wrote: ... all the photos posted in this thread look faked, and he looks like a sim.


Indeed. There is something Breiviky about the usual Zuckerberg portrait. Those plastic eyes make me shudder.

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The ELA says it all:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 30&fmt=ela

Another example from the same bag:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 015.825384
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby sunshine05 on May 20th, 2014, 5:30 pm

Agreed. He's as much a sim as Snowden.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby tokyojoe1 on December 15th, 2015, 5:32 am

All of this brings up the question, who the hell is Sean Parker?

is an American entrepreneur and philanthropist who cofounded the file-sharing computer service Napster and served as the first president of the social networking website Facebook. He also cofounded Plaxo, Causes, Airtime, and Brigade, an online platform for civic engagement. He is the founder and chairman of the Parker Foundation, which focuses on life sciences, global public health, and civic engagement. As of November 2015, Parker's net worth was estimated to be US$2.5 billion.


This is the guy played by Justin Timberlake in The Social Network. Is he a real person?

Does this mean Napster has some spooky ties as well? Was the downfall of the music industry orchestrated? Did it have something to do with the rise of Apple ITunes?
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby SacredCowSlayer on December 16th, 2015, 3:38 am

Okay let's compare these "photos".

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Why would so many freckles be missing from that last one? A guy that wears nothing but grey shirts doesn't seem like the vain type to have freckles airbrushed either.

Flabbergasted linked that last one to photoforensics and it certainly is interesting how much the teeth, hair, and eyes popped. I'm far from an expert when it comes to reading those images, but the teeth don't look right, and yes the eyes are quite plastic looking (for lack of a better description).

I always figured he was just a puppet figurehead, but he may very well be a complete sim.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby MrSinclair on December 16th, 2015, 4:01 am

tokyojoe1 wrote:All of this brings up the question, who the hell is Sean Parker?

is an American entrepreneur and philanthropist who cofounded the file-sharing computer service Napster and served as the first president of the social networking website Facebook. He also cofounded Plaxo, Causes, Airtime, and Brigade, an online platform for civic engagement. He is the founder and chairman of the Parker Foundation, which focuses on life sciences, global public health, and civic engagement. As of November 2015, Parker's net worth was estimated to be US$2.5 billion.


This is the guy played by Justin Timberlake in The Social Network. Is he a real person?

Does this mean Napster has some spooky ties as well? Was the downfall of the music industry orchestrated? Did it have something to do with the rise of Apple ITunes?


I would say Sean Parker is a real person. I heard of him in the late 90's because he was living in Hull Ma, a town I have family in. As Napster was gaining notoriety at this time he was a popular topic of conversation. The house he was living in and which Napster was based at was pointed out to me at the time and at least one family member knew him personally. This was all years before the development of Facebook.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby Ataraxia on December 18th, 2015, 2:57 am

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211028/Facebook-boss-Mark-Zuckerberg-visits-McDonalds-Moscow-meets-Dmitry-Medvedev.html

I know this photo was posted a few years ago, but I’m surprised at the number of obvious mistakes that are in it. The most glaring is the man at the far right, labeled as F, who casts no shadow and is walking in the most absurd way possible, in full vigorous stride even as he reaches the meeting place of the street and sidewalk. This is discounting how bizarre he looks in the first place, though of course all of the forefront people look equally bizarre and out of place, so I guess in that sense he fits right in. You can tell none of these people are natural to the scene, as they are often surrounded by sharp black lines, whereas for comparison the objects in the background meld into the scene in a natural way.

The second most striking oddity is labeled as D, and are the black shadows on the lady’s right hand which makes no sense. They remind me of some of the courtroom sims in the Oslo thread.

Other oddities are labeled below
A: On the upper edge of the shadow, the car casts a perfectly rounded shadow on the car behind, yet that round shadow clearly doesn’t match that of any car, let alone the bit of the dark-coloured car you can see on the far left of the image.

B: The straight black shadow running down the lady (to the left of the line), which matches up with nothing visible. Though I guess it's supposed to be the shadow of his arm?

C: The visible straight white line running along the old man’s rear, a clear sign of the joining of two layers as his left ‘stepping’ leg is joined to his right leg. There are very few times you'd see a perfectly straight line when dealing with clothes and movement and shadows, etc.

E: It seems you’d expect to see the car belonging to this shadow somewhere in the scene, when you compare the shadows of the cars on the left side and how close they are to their shadows.

F: Just above the letter F, the shadows here seem to be pointing towards the upper-left side of the image, rather than moving towards the upper-right as all the other shadows tend to do.

G: I couldn’t resist mentioning the all-seeing eye on the poster in the background. As nonsensical as that whole trope might or might not be, nonetheless there it is.
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Re: Facebook, Twitter and the artificial new media

Postby tokyojoe1 on December 22nd, 2015, 2:51 am

I've been thinking a bit about Zuckerberg being a hologram and the logistics of it. As secret military technology gets more and more amazing (Oslo court video), I figured there would come a time where it would be almost impossible for us to physically tell the difference. HOWEVER, as long as they mix holograms/sims with real people, there will always be subconscious cues that will give it away.

I believe the IC/perps/military's biggest weakness is that they can never defeat a human being's gut feeling. The human body was created with the built-in tool to "feel" if there is some sort of deception going on. While the military may have started to master audio/visual deception, they are decades and perhaps centuries away from mastering our "gut feelings". In 2015, the best they can do is try to distract us from listening to our spidey senses, but I think they know they're toast if we do so anyway. So that my friends is my biggest weapon when I investigate potential fakery.

My hypothesis on holograms is this: If there really are holograms interacting with real humans on television, there will be a couple things that may give it away.

1. There will be minimal touching between holograms and real people
2. The environment will be as controlled as possible
3. And this is the biggest: People will be able to "sense" that something is off in the social interaction between real people and holograms.

An interesting "fact" of this Zuckerberg is that he is socially awkward. This was noted in the movie The Social Network, and there are many "accounts" of Zuckerberg potentially have Asperger's Syndrome. I now suspect that the perps recognized the awkward/not smooth social interactions between Zuckerberg and real people and devised a cover for it. "This interaction is strange because Mark Zuckerberg is a weird person, not because he is a fake person".

If my theories are correct, I decided to ignore any videos of Zuckerberg giving a speech and tried to find videos of where he is being interviewed and being forced to socially interact with real humans.

Video #1


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQaCv52DSnY

In this Vanity Fair interview you'll notice all three participants walk out and sit down. No shaking hands or any sort of touching. Then if you watch (and just watch with your gut, turn off your logical mind), Zuckerberg's "vibe" is just off compared to the other participants. He's too happy and excited, a little too on the edge of his seat.

Another thing is that the participants don't really respond to his presence. Sure they nod their heads at the right time, but they lack all the subtle twitches, head nods, etc. that normal people have with each other. Look, if Mark Zuckerberg is real, he is a VERY powerful man in this world. A multi-billionaire. When a multi-billionaire looks at another person, there's a good chance that person will feel submissive and look down or otherwise fidget a bit. Nothing like that happens around Zuckerberg. Now Zuckerberg REALLY responds to the participants, almost too much so, but how the real people respond is most important.

Video #2


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1I_MhN2tyA

Now this is a weird one. A one hour interview with Indian Prime Minister Modi. I recommend watching this and just watching Modi interact with Zuckerberg. The best way to describe it is that he looks disgusted and uncomfortable, almost weirded out.

What's really interesting about this one is that they "touch" at the end of it. But not quite. The camera seems to cut out at just the moment before they shake hands.

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And then the "layer" of the fake looking crowd hides the 2nd handshake. Notice the cut right before the handshake. That was a real cut in the Youtube video.

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Now here's the interesting part. A few seconds after the last GIF you can kind of see two hands grasping each other between the "crowd". Watching the GIF a few times it seems to only be Zuckerberg's hands. And then Modi gives Zuckerberg an awkward style hug. This is the money shot used as the "promo pic" whenever a website discusses Zuckerberg and Modi. How this was done, I'm not sure. But I'm hoping the Clues forum can help me out.

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What made my mind focus on holograms and not sims is this little non-sequitur from Jimmy Fallon during an improvised interview with Jerry Seinfeld. What intrigued me was not what Fallon said about holograms, but how Seinfeld reacted to it, and then Fallon looking over to somebody off-camera who is clearly communicating something to him. Check it out, it happens starting at 3:10.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mKXie3iTnc

Jimmy Fallon: "I don't know who's alive or dead anymore. But the Hologram... *mumbles*

Seinfeld loses his smile immediately, looks upward and off-camera like "crap, I can't believe he said that" and fidgets uncomfortably in his seat while biting his lip. Fallon catches himself as soon as he says "hologram", looks off-screen and then gives a stone-faced look probably after getting a signal from a producer.

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Maybe it's nothing. But it's these "little" moments that say so much and if you just watch with your gut, you'll see what everybody else missed. My read on their reactions is that holograms are a well-known secret in Hollywood not meant for the public and Fallon made an overzealous joke in the moment. It's also clear to me that talking about holograms is a big no-no. Why in the world can't we talk about something like holograms? Well, you figure it out.

I then started thinking about the Tupac hologram they premiered at Coachella back in 2012. It was really cool looking, but it was an obvious hologram. I'm now starting to think that this was purposeful disinformation for the public subtly saying "Yes, we have the technology but it's not good enough for us to get away with anything".


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbrFmPBV0Y

Edit: The hologram part in the Fallon interview actually starts at 3:05. Seinfeld darts his head at Fallon like "I can't believe you just said that", feigns a big smile and starts fidgeting in his chair. It was only by the 2nd time Fallon mentioned holograms that he was signaled to cut it out. Seinfeld then mumbles something unfunny to change the subject. Here's a GIF from that part.

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