pov603 wrote:Apparently Andrew Murray the tennis player was one of the kids who survived/avoided the shooting.
pov603 wrote:I didn't know anything about John Lydon and Lockerbie, please elaborate!
My connection with Lockerbie is that I once worked for a very short while at a company 'stitching cardboard' boxes together [it was the heady days of the early 90s in the UK when there was not much work to be had and led to me leaving the UK for sunnier climes...KSA...it brought home the adage 'be careful what you wish for!'].
Anyway, the supervisor [I know this sounds misleading but I can only remember his first name Mike] was an English guy who told me he had been living up in Lockerbie with his wife and two children and had his house demolished by the falling plane. He said that all were out at the time, he with his wife, his two children with eachother, and both sets were in fear that the others were caught up in the accident but thankfully for them none were.
My sister, who was a mobile-hairstylist at the time used to cut the hair of a girl who also allegedly perished on the flight, she was on her way to NY with her fiance [i think] for Christmas [I will try and find out some details from my sister].
Getting back to JL, I always wondered if there was anything to be had from his lyrics in 'Rise' wherein he says/sings:
"They put a hot wire to my head
cos of the thing I did and said
And made these feelings go away
Model citizen in every way"
It makes you wonder...
There were instances of people who were supposed to board Pan Am Flight 103, but arrived too late to board the flight, escaping the fate of those on board.
The potential "271st victim"
Jaswant Basuta, an Indian national, was checked in for Pan Am Flight 103, but arrived at the boarding gate too late. Having attended a family wedding in Belfast, Basuta was returning to New York where the 47-year old car mechanic was about to start a new job. Friends and relatives from nearby Southall came to see him off at the airport terminal, and bought him drinks in the upstairs bar. When "gate closing" flashed on the departure screen, Basuta hurried through security and sprinted to the departure gate, but the room was empty except for Pan Am ground staff who denied him access to the aircraft.
Basuta was initially considered a suspect as his checked baggage had been on the flight without him. After questioning at a Heathrow police station, he was released without charge. Twenty years later, in an interview with the BBC, Basuta talked about his narrow escape from death: "I should have been the 271st victim and I still feel terrible for all the other people who died."
South African foreign minister
The South African foreign minister Pik Botha and a minor delegation of 22 was supposed to board Pan Am 103, but managed to take the earlier Pan Am 101 flight. They were on their way to New York to sign the tripartite agreement whereby South Africa agreed to hand control of Namibia to the United Nations. The UN commissioner appointed to take over, Bernt Carlsson, was among the victims of Flight 103 as mentioned above.
The R&B singing group The Four Tops had been scheduled to board Pan Am Flight 103 to return to the United States for Christmas after completing their European tour, but were late getting out of a recording session and overslept.
Punk rock musician John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) of the Sex Pistols and Public Image Ltd. and his wife, Nora, were also booked on Pan Am Flight 103, but missed it due to delays.
The 1988 world tennis No. 1 Mats Wilander had made a reservation but did not take a seat on the flight.
The actress Kim Cattrall was also booked on the flight but changed her reservation shortly beforehand in order to complete some last minute gift shopping in London.
Music producer Ed Stasium and recording engineer Paul Hamingson had planned to be on the flight but were delayed while finishing a recording session with the rock band "The Muscle Shoal" at Comforts Place Studio in Lingfield, Surrey. They departed from Heathrow the following day on Pan Am 103.
Euphoria wrote:Good find, Brian.
I think our research so far demonstrates that most top celebrities cannot be trusted. I propose that in many cases, with celebrity 'perps,' either their agents/promoters or the spouses they meet in the entertainment industry, introduce them to the 'occult world' i.e. plan for One World Government and they get themselves into a very comfortable life position which they find difficult to abandon, considering the material advantages.
Dame Vivienne Westward, the mentor of the Sex Pistols, seems very much onboard with the One World agenda. On Easter Sunday 2008, she campaigned in person at the biggest Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament demonstration in ten years, at the Atomic Weapons Establishment, Aldermaston, Berkshire. Westwood has also pledged £1 million to help tackle climate change, claiming governments have been too slow to distribute funding for green projects.
Speaking on the eve of the United Nations climate talks in Durban, South Africa, she told The Times: “Governments…are so slow that we can’t wait for them any more. We have to get this thing moving and hope that they’ll join in.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... hange.html
This made me also think of the Lima Declaration from March 1975, where the de-industrialisation of the West, and engineered recession in the UK, was decided upon.
The Sex Pistols were formed in August 1975. Seems like Westwood and McClaren formed them, knowing that the UK was on the brink of a planned recession. Their role was to tap into the public anger and frustration, and refocus or divert it into a new fashion and music trend, where it would be rendered harmless? That seems plausible, knowing that one or both of them have frequented international UN conferences in the past.
muckletoon wrote:brianv wrote:
Strange that the Elites interpretation of "Anarchy" and the Pistols' sort of go hand in hand! Anyone with the slightest bit of political savvy knows that Anarchy is a "Utoyian" ideal, not Dantes' Inferno. Punk had the effect of polarising british society. The TV watching voters were horrified. They ran to authority like the sheep that they are! We want you Big Brother, but that's another story!
muckletoon wrote:I'm unsure what Euphoria is alluding to regarding Lockerbie
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