Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

This is the forum dedicated to all 'minor' local psyops - phony murders, kidnappings and whatnot. It has now become evident that the news media constantly feeds the public with entirely fake stories - in order to keep us in eternal fear of our next-door neighbours and fellow citizens.

Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby brianv on February 4th, 2012, 4:50 pm

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:Apologies, I didn't realise. I'm Alex, a student from London. Found my way here through the September Clues videos, which I love. Always read the forum, never really have much to contribute, until today!


I'm not sure your spartan intro would be deemed as sufficient.

You are a student! Might I ask how you are "cognisant" of/with the "Hungerford Massacre" of 25 years ago, and the book and the author? And the alleged victims facebook account?
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Mr. McGillicuddy on February 4th, 2012, 5:35 pm

I'm sorry you didn't like the introduction, what other information is required? I have three cats and my favourite chocolate bar is Cadbury's Twirl.
As previously mentioned, I own the book.
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As for the account, I thought it probable that Ryan's youngest victim, who would be in her mid-thirties now, would have one. Simple.
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby brianv on February 4th, 2012, 5:45 pm

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I'm sorry you didn't like the introduction, what other information is required? I have three cats and my favourite chocolate bar is Cadbury's Twirl.
As previously mentioned, I own the book.
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As for the account, I thought it probable that Ryan's youngest victim, who would be in her mid-thirties now, would have one. Simple.


No I dont like your intro nor your smart ass remarks! You claim to be a regular here but failed to notice that an introduction is required?

Did you just take the photo of your book collection with "Hungerford" conveniently at the front or is it an old photo that you just happened to have in case you might need it in the future? What did you use to capture the image?

Will you be in correspondence with the alleged victim? A fuckface account does not a person make!

http://www.jeremyjosephs.com/
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Mr. McGillicuddy on February 4th, 2012, 9:04 pm

I did not claim to be a regular, I read the forum now and again.
Nope, I went to all the trouble of photographing it just for you! I used something called a camera, such a wonderful invention, you should treat youself to one! I'm sure you have the most charming smile to match your charming personality!
I don't mind introducing myself properly, I just hope other forum members aren't as rude as you.
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Euphoria on February 4th, 2012, 9:21 pm

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I did not claim to be a regular, I read the forum now and again.
Nope, I went to all the trouble of photographing it just for you! I used something called a camera, such a wonderful invention, you should treat youself to one! I'm sure you have the most charming smile to match your charming personality!
I don't mind introducing myself properly, I just hope other forum members aren't as rude as you.

We may be wrong about you, it's just that people on this forum are well-aware of the modus operandi of Israeli-paid bloggers or government agents and how they work to infiltrate and misdirect the debate. If you have a few posts and they give the impression of using those tactics, then people will be suspicious.

If Hungerford was a psyop then it's highly probable (but not certain) that Jeremy Josephs was in on the 'secret.' As for the young victim, whose Facebook account you referenced - that could easily be a government-planted false eyewitness, like the 'friends' of Anders Behring Breivik mentioned in his supposed Manifesto document. .
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby brianv on February 4th, 2012, 9:45 pm

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I did not claim to be a regular, I read the forum now and again.
Nope, I went to all the trouble of photographing it just for you! I used something called a camera, such a wonderful invention, you should treat youself to one! I'm sure you have the most charming smile to match your charming personality!
I don't mind introducing myself properly, I just hope other forum members aren't as rude as you.


What camera did you use? Does it produce images @ 320x240 px. What software did you use to scale it? And where is the Exif data from your marvelous camera? And your facetiousness won't win you any friends here!
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Mr. McGillicuddy on February 5th, 2012, 2:54 am

My camera is a Samsung. I uploaded it to this wonderful website, which allows you to change the size: http://postimage.org/
Isn't it marvelous?! Oh the wonders!
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby brianv on February 5th, 2012, 3:54 am

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:My camera is a Samsung. I uploaded it to this wonderful website, which allows you to change the size: http://postimage.org/
Isn't it marvelous?! Oh the wonders!


Would you mind reposting it with the Exif data!
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Mr. McGillicuddy on February 5th, 2012, 1:04 pm

And how do I do that?
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby brianv on February 5th, 2012, 2:53 pm

Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:And how do I do that?


Oh the wonders!! You're not so fucking smart after all are you?
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Mr. McGillicuddy on February 7th, 2012, 1:36 pm

;)
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

Postby Doomday/Heinz on March 23rd, 2012, 2:27 pm

The reason this "event" interests me personally is my uncle Miguel Ares was the manager of the Bear Hotel in Hungerford at the time it happened.
If i recall correctly some shots were supposedly fired on the road opposite the hotel.

Michael Ryan allegedly went to Devizes shooting club , in a documentary on this event one of the owners of said club said he seemed a novice with guns asking simple questions and his gun posture was incorrect.

In this instance is brings up comparisons of Martin Bryant who again it is said was uncomfortable handling guns.

Because it happened a while ago now it is hard to find info on this case but still it is worthwhile discussing in conjucture with other such events.
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Role of Princess Margaret Hospital in Hungerford massacre PS

Postby Euphoria on August 31st, 2012, 7:49 pm

Interesting points. I've found a mention of this, in the AP news archives:

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http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1987/Kille ... 216ba1fdd2

Princess Margaret Hospital!

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It's no longer there, as it was replaced in December 2002 with the new Great Western Hospital. However, in this area, Wroughton, I'm finding connections to both the RAF and the Paras:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Wroughton

'...RAF Wroughton was also home to the RAF Princess Alexandra Hospital, providing full hospital services to the Armed forces personnel, their families and the local civilian population. The RAF General Hospital (as it was known) opened on 14 June 1941 during the second world war. At the end of March 1944 the bed capacity was 1000. SECO hutting with inter-connecting corridors added a further 350 beds. Wroughton’s busiest period followed the allied landings in Normandy on D-Day. The first casualties arrived on 13 June 1944, landing at nearby RAF Lyneham. In the 6-months following D-Day 4,811 casualties passed through Wroughton. Wroughton continued as a General Hospital treating military patients, and from 1958 took NHS cases as well to relieve backlogs in the Swindon area. Following a visit to the hospital by Princess Alexandra on 4 July 1967, the Queen conferred the prefix “Princess Alexandra’s” on the hospital on 4 October 1967. When the hostages from Beirut were released in August 1991, Wg Cdr Gordon Turnbull a psychiatrist based at Wroughton, with his team, debriefed John McCarthy, Terry Waite and Jackie Mann and provided the counselling necessary to ease them back into freedom. The hospital closed on 31 March 1996 as part of the Conservative Government's defence cuts at the end of the cold war. The hospital was eventually demolished and the site, called Alexandra Park, contains housing and a Conference Centre.

And then the Princess Margaret Hospital itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Swindon

Princess Margaret laid the foundation stone in 1957 of the Princess Margaret Hospital (abbreviated to PMH), it would not be completed until January 1960.

Now look what I've found. Bear in mind, this relates to Princess Margaret Hospital (where the victims were supposedly treated), not Alexandra:

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Doomday/Heinz, I believe you're talking about Crimes That Shook Britain: The Hungerford Massacre Documentary (2007). It's important to note that the documentary makers incorrectly identified Princess Margaret Hospital, Windsor, as the location the 'victims' were taken to. In fact, all the press reports in 1987 confirmed that it was this military-hospital in the then RAF town of Wroughton, just outside Swindon.

In fact, one of the actresses in the documentary is clearly described as a new service manager (named as 'Sarah Britton') at the Windsor-based hospital of that name! It looks like the perps have slipped up here! See 5.00min onwards in this video:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9-MkLXxfs
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'Sarah Britton' and her role in the Hungerford PSYOP

Postby Euphoria on August 31st, 2012, 10:24 pm

Now, it seems that one Sarah Britton - formerly of Swindon and Marlborough NHS Trust - has been carving out a nice role for herself in Private Finance Initiatives (PFI)...at Carrillion plc, according to information I've found:

http://www.carillionplc.com/media/19540/report2000.pdf

'...Carillion is the leading supplier of support services to the UK Armed Forces...'

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Here is the relevant Sarah Britton's LinkedIn profile:

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Role of TV Director Ruki Sidhwa in Hungerford PSYOP hoax?

Postby Euphoria on September 1st, 2012, 7:37 pm

This is actually the Director of Crimes That Shook Britain: The Hungerford Massacre Documentary (2007).

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ruki-sidhwa/19/1a6/a62

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I wonder about these perps. I believe some of these TV people one day 'twigged on' to how the world works, and decided to 'go with the flow' without necessarily explicitly discussing the ins and outs with anybody. However, maybe I'm being naive here? An offline editor can be brought in to do the 'research' and all they will find is government-appointed actors. It's wholly possible that the cameramen, researchers and other specialists may be entirely oblivious to the fraud.

But I very much doubt that the Director would be innocent. She is a former Director of the swashbuckling, thug-bashing Crimewatch:

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/199 ... h_robbers/ (July 1998)

Crimewatch director Ruki Sidhwa said: "The leads detectives have been working on have now bottomed out and the visual impact of our reconstruction could help. This armed robbery must have been very frightening for staff in the shop and if we can get these dangerous men off the streets we will be very happy."

http://radaris.co.uk/p/Ruki/Sidhwa/

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