Malaysia Flight MH17

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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Starbucked on August 4th, 2014, 9:32 am

brianv wrote:
Starbucked wrote:Came across a very interesting website from Jane Burgermeister [...]


Er "Jane Burgermeister" is regular fodder for the "Freeman/Sovereign" crowd and the "Infowars/Jones" numpties.


I see what you mean Brian. I had no idea that Jane "The Burger Queen" Burgermaster was a numpty sympathizer. Does this mean a possible connection between Ebola, the dead WHO official Glenn Thomas and 6 Aids scientists and MH17 is invalid?
In other words, is Jane nominal? :ph34r:
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby pov603 on August 4th, 2014, 11:12 am

I wonder if the perps do play games with semantics as the 'MRD' reminds me of Toyota's problems selling their MR-2 sports car in France.
Phonetically, saying M-R-2 in french sounded like EM-ER-DEUX which was very close to the word 'merde'.
'MRD' is pretty close too.
Also if you were to abbrieviate 'Murder' in English 'mrd' would be getting close to the 'mrdr' that people would/could conjure up without the use of vowels.
Just a thought.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Slimbull on August 6th, 2014, 12:19 am

Here is a quick video i made showing the same MH17 wreckage (MRD) in two different places:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MwwyU1c7Nk
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Flabbergasted on August 6th, 2014, 4:57 am

Slimbull wrote:...the same MH17 wreckage (MRD) in two different places.


Considering how certain lenses can bring the background surprisingly close, I am not sure you have a case yet. The only potential oddity (artifact) I noticed is the grass at the foot of the white section to the left, as seen on this ELA:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 80&fmt=ela
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby birdman2 on August 6th, 2014, 3:57 pm

Slimbull wrote:Here is a quick video i made showing the same MH17 wreckage (MRD) in two different places:


Hi Slimbull,

I thought that comparison was well done. Nice video. I was curious to see whether I could find more of the same/similar images, as that 'piece of the wreckage' is so distinctive. I'll have to look into the alleged fauxtographers and times/dates, but in the meantime I thought we might spot some discrepancies in the images themselves.

The first group all have 'people' in the 'photo'

in this example, sporting our favourite fashion item ...
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source: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/r ... ge/374820/

The next two are from Slimbull's video (re-posting them for the purpose of comparing to a third one):
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source: http://www.kjrh.com/news/world/181-bodi ... in-ukraine

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source: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0682db5 ... 14-005.jpg (source from Slimbull's video description on youtube)
source for similar image, lower quality: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/04 ... h17-probe/

Can the above image be reconciled with this one below? I understand parallax can cause objects to appear to 'move' or switch places, but the discrepancy between this image and the one above seems too extreme. Especially as the two big pieces seem to have the same orientation towards the camera - i.e. straight on - in both fauxtos.

Also, in the photo above, both the 'MRD' and 'ia' lettering are in focus. In the photo below, only the 'ia' lettering is in focus. The photo above seems to be yet another example of objects in BOTH foreground and background being in focus (which is impossible).

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source: http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airline ... ts-1642046


there's also one with a cow, or bull, for a bit of variety! Are there livestock in any of the other MH17 images?
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source: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/s ... g-crash-si


And here are the rest that I found:

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source: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s4049464.htm

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source: http://www.cityam.com/1405696384/mh17-p ... ntensifies

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source: http://www.themalaysiantimes.com.my/exp ... t-ukraine/

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source: http://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/new ... /452525466
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby simonshack on August 9th, 2014, 12:45 pm

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FATIMA DY - "aspiring asstruenot"

Well, well, well - what a pathetic joke this is... Get this: Alleged Flight MH17 victim, 25-year-old German blonde "Fatima Dyczynski" (a purported 'aerospace engineer and aspiring astronaut') had, we are told, been offered a job with IBM in Australia (where her parents live). She had reportedly "recently completed her Bachelor of Aerospace Engineering and was due to begin an internship in Perth on Monday, before returning to the Netherlands to complete her Masters".

"Malaysia Airlines MH17: German student Fatima Dyczynski dreamt of living in Perth"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/g ... th/5609874
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"Grieving Aussie couple who lost daughter, Fatima Dyczynski, visit crash site"
"An Australian couple who lost their daughter in downed Malaysia Airlines flight 17 has visited the crash site in rebel-held east Ukraine, the first relatives of victims to arrive at the scene. Jerzy Dyczynski and Angela Rudhart-Dyczynski's 25-year-old daughter Fatima was one of 298 victims killed when the Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur flight was shot down on July 17." http://www.smh.com.au/national/grieving ... zxapl.html
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"Fatima's" picturesque 'parents' interviewed on TV:
NOTE THIS GEM (at 0:12): "The family lived with 7NEWS presenter Rick Arden, struggling to secure a permanent residency." :blink:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1I73nfX04


This is the grossly phony "XOTERRA" website, a "high-tech" company which "Fatima" supposedly founded all by herself - and of which she was the CEO...
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"XOTERRA": http://www.xoterraspace.com/the-team/
(Xoterra website whois): http://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?do ... c4fRAkAiNg (Hereford, Arizona?...)


But here's the problem : anyone wishing to believe in this FATIMA story - will also have to accept that this young aerospace engineer also had modeling / acting aspirations. Here we can find her portfolio (under the - uh - pseudonym "FATIMA DY") on the Dutch "Thea Meulenberg" international casting agency :

"Thea Meulenberg Casting is a well-known international casting agency, with over 30 years of experience. The Amsterdam-based agency, casts actors, actresses, models and children for tv commercials, corporate- and promotional films, tv series, video clips, telefilms and photography." http://www.theameulenberg.com/about/

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http://www.theameulenberg.com/cast-a-ta ... fatima-dy/

Did perhaps FATIMA DY "die in a lie" - a bit like DIANA AALYIGH on 9/11 ? <_<

Oh no, wait ! Remember the only Australian victim of the "LONDON 7/7 BOMBINGS"?
That's right : SAM LY ("Some lie?")
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As it is, the Daily Mail actually had FATIMA as an "Australian victim":
"The grieving parents of Australian MH17 victim Fatima Dyczynski saw a lot when they arrived at the Ukrainian crash site (...)"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -site.html

So sing along with me now : "SAM LY and FATIMA DY - two aussie young heroes - who died in a lie... on 7/7 and in a 7-7-7 !" :lol:

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A hat tip to Zákon Přitažlivosti, a commenter on this video by Amad Lanza, who found that Thea Meulenberg casting agency webpage a couple of days ago.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Cobra Commander on August 10th, 2014, 1:31 am

@Simon

Fatima's parents struggled to keep their place of residency, but they sure could afford to buy her that nice ass Beamer as a gift. :puke:
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Critical Mass on August 18th, 2014, 12:07 am

Evil Edna wrote:
Slimbull wrote:Meet Barry and Izzy Sim (and the unnamed baby Sim)..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ilies.html


Hi Slimbull :) There are quite a few Sims around the UK,

An interesting aside... perhaps to some anyhow.

In 2008 Dennis Buckley got several messages from a 'JAYNE BUCKLEY' in Wales.

September 10, 2008
YOU DONT NO ME BUT WE SHARE THE SAME SURNAME I BET YOU WERE A GREAT PERSON ENJOY HEAVEN ALWAYS IN MY PRAYS


In 2011 this 'Jayne' started calling itself ...
~ Jayne Buckley sims, Wales uk


It has developed quite an unhealthy obsession with posting messages about poor Dennis (inc. 8 of the 17 posts here!) often repeating the posts it first made in 2007* at one site all the way up to 2011 on another...

Prayers & Condolences For: Dennis Buckley BY Anonymous on Sep 11, 2011

10 years has past

Dennis you will never be forgotton

Always in my thoughts and prays

I didn't no you we share the same surname

R .I. P

Jayne Buckley sims Uk






* From the 9/11 heroes site...

i'm from wales, u kingdom. my heart goes out to dennis and his family. like all buckleys, he's a hero. a great name will carry on. god bless, even tho I did not know you, but we share a wonderful name.

*** Posted by jayne buckley on 2007-11-09 ***
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby sunshine05 on August 18th, 2014, 12:25 am

Oh, that is hilarious! She is stalking the guy (sim) who she doesn't even know:). I loved the note " I hope you're enjoying heaven". :lol:

Also, "Thinking of you tonight." on some random date in April. I wonder if she stalks everyone who shares the same surname.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby sunshine05 on August 28th, 2014, 7:22 pm

Now why would they need to do in depth DNA analyses on victims? It's well established now that everyone must have identification to fly. When flying with children, the names are given. There are passenger lists. When there is a crash, can't it be assumed that the victims ARE in fact the people listed on the passenger list? I mean, they've all provided ID to travel. So what's this really about? Are they suggesting that some of the people survived and are living somewhere suffering from amnesia?! They must be pushing for a global DNA database because this keeps coming up. Think about the alleged remains of the 9/11 vicsims housed at the museum.

"Dutch officials expect precise accuracy from DNA-matching software that will be used to identify many of the 298 Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 victims. But it is unknown whether there will be enough genetic evidence from the remains and relatives of the missing to ID everyone. As of Friday, 171 people who died after the July 17 crash had not been recovered."

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/20 ... f4385034=1
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby JLapage on September 20th, 2014, 2:00 pm

The $30 million is being held in Switzerland and Wifka is appealing to anyone who may know anything to contact them through a lawyer to ensure their identity is kept confidential.
...Mr Resch has reportedly earned 40,000 euros for taking on the role and will be given an additional 500,000 euros if he manages to identify who shot down MH17.
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/09/1 ... kmP84ch.99

Would someone tell Mr. Resch to read this forum first. He should be glad that he at least received some retainer fee of 40,000 euros. He will quickly find out that he will not be able to receive the 500,000.00 euros. His investigation could be quite revealing if he would actually announce that this whole thing is just a hoax. Of course it is highly unlikely that he will be able to identify a single victim unless of course he cannot tell the difference between a victim and a vicsim.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby Seneca on October 4th, 2014, 4:20 pm

"Belgian vcitims MH17 can finally be buried"
http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20141004_01303156
"after 74 days, the body of a 12 year boy from Antwerp has finally been identified. The parents' bodies had already been identified but the family waited with the burial until their son was found last week. Next thursday the 3 will be buried together. 48 victims are still not identified (and apparently not buried)" .
The advantage of vicsims is that they don't smell even after 2,5 months.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby ElSushi on October 13th, 2014, 7:46 pm

Here we are again, I don't know if someone else linked that quite recent article over here before or not, but it looks like the same propaganda antics are being endlessly used all over again.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-02/russia-accuses-us-fabricating-satellite-images-creating-wall-propaganda-incite-other

Russia Accuses US Of Fabricating Satellite Images, Creating "Wall Of Propaganda" To Incite Other Countries


It was ten days ago when on the heels of Russia's 30-minute detailed presentation of what it believes happened to MH-17, the US government released a satellite trajectory map of what it says was the flight's path and the site from which the missile was shot as well as various other satellite images "proving" the missile that took down the Boeing 777 was fired by the pro-Russian separatists. Yesterday the Russian defense ministry finally responded to the US release stating that the "satellite images Kiev published as ‘proof’ it didn’t deploy anti-aircraft batteries around the MH17 crash site carry altered time-stamps and are from days after the MH17 tragedy." In other words, the evidence the US has present to form public opinion was in the form of "altered images carrying wrong time-stamps."
;)

RT reports that the images (Russia Today, ha !), which Kiev claims were taken by its satellites at the same time as those taken by Russian satellites, are neither Ukrainian nor authentic, according to Moscow's statement. The Defense Ministry said the images were apparently made by an American KeyHole reconnaissance satellite, because the two Ukrainian satellites currently in orbit, Sich-1 and Sich-2, were not positioned over the part of Ukraine’s Donetsk Region shown in the pictures. The Defense ministry further alleges weather and lighting conditions in the images were not possible at the dates and times Ukraine claims they were made, the Russian ministry said.
--> wow, in other terms, it wasn't our nowhere-to-be-found / fictitious satellite , we told you so !!.

Here's one typical spooky attempt to make us believe that the Ukrainians have THEIR own satellite and that WE Russians use our own and it goes without saying that WE only trust our owns.Yeah,that's that simple :D

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Using the satellite hoax propaganda seems to be very convenient for the media Nutwork's operators as they never miss a chance to include one those anecdotic fables inside their most recent media fabrications.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby simonshack on October 13th, 2014, 11:12 pm

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Great post, ElSushi. No wonder that the massive satellite hoax pops up to 'give a hand' to the lesser MH 17 hoax...

Lesser? Well, I call it so only because it is a really crass and lousy hoax.

Anyone believing that the following images are REAL / AUTHENTIC, well - WHAT can I say?... I wish them well... :rolleyes:

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CAPTION: "The body of a woman still attached to the airline's seat lies on high grassy weed outside the village of Grabovo, Donetsk Region, East Ukraine."

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CAPTION: " The body of a man, believe to be a passenger of flight MH17, lies on grassy weed outside the village of Grabovo, Donetsk Region, East Ukraine."

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CAPTION: "The body of a young boy still attached to MH17's seat is seen in the country field outside the village of Grabovo, Donetsk Region, East Ukraine."

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CAPTION: "A barbie doll is seen amongst the lot of scattered memorabilia belonging to the passengers of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 outside the village of Grabovo, Donetsk Region, East Ukraine."

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CAPTION: "A book written by Robert Muchamore, "Black Friday", believed to belong to one of the passengers is found at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines MH17, outside the village of Grabovo, Donetsk Region, East Ukraine."

Source: http://www.demotix.com/news/5304071/mal ... ia-5303615

This otherwise beautiful planet of ours harbors some sick, very sick individuals. :angry:

Meanwhile, we get called "crazy conspiracy theorists" for calling them out. What a mad, mad world we live in.
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Re: Malaysia Flight MH17

Postby ElSushi on October 14th, 2014, 6:40 pm

Indeed Simon, extremely " crass and lousy hoax " and one thing that we can ascertain is that our spooky perpetrators are trying hard to bring a strong sense of realism to their fabricated pictures.
But hey, Hollywood has been doing that for the last 40 years or so, so nothing really surprising here.
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