Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby brianv on March 7th, 2015, 7:35 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:Whether Adolph was an actor or not, the "rehearsal pictures" I have seen don´t stand up to scrutiny:



Horrific, indeed!

I think this actor/clown was foisted upon the world to give the impression that other "politicians" might appear benevolent and patrician by comparison, when in fact they are all a bunch of ass-wipes.
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby anonjedi2 on March 7th, 2015, 9:19 pm

Wonderful pencil drawing, brianv. :D

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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby smj on March 9th, 2015, 5:44 pm

I suppose grand narratives require grand personae to push the archetype.
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After all, Charlie needed something to work with...
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... as did Putin
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http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/2182?page=3

Degrelle was inspired by Hitler...
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=slHWloSrO9g

... and Hergé was inspired to create Tin Tin by Degrelle we are told
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http://www.thule-italia.net/sitofrances ... intin1.pdf

It seems Hitler was photogenic from a young age. Here he is in grade school with the most famous philosopher of the 20th century, Ludwig Wittgenstein...
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It turns out Ludwig was photogenic as well...
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Strange how Adolph was in the same class with one of the richest kids in all of Europe according to the narrative.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Wittgenstein

And then there's Wittgenstein's nephew and co-founder of cybernetics (with the likes of Norbert Weiner and Gregor(y) Bateson), Heinz von Foerster. Heinz once fell into an autopoietic fervor and let slip the hustle...

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KnPBg-tanE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htkzDvcsR8k
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby edgewaters on March 14th, 2015, 6:41 pm

warriorhun wrote:That democracy is a sham? That the elections we are allowed to take part in every 4 years is an illusion maintained for us, its catering to the the illusion that we are really participating in politics and decision-making, and the wish of the majority is considered and carried out by the leadership of our countries, therefore there is no need for us to rebel or demand any change? Think on it: are our representatives elected from our midst? Is it fuck: our representatives are elected from lists set up and provided by fuck nows who... And if the real leadership is hiding behind the curtain and want to remain anonymous, why not just put actors on the stage, playing politicias? Obama, Merkel, any other politician can simply be an actor, paid to pose as our leaders...

What do you think? Is it too far-fetched, or does it sound as worth considering?


Far-fetched? I thought everybody knew it's something like that, but I don't think it's as simplistic as a cabal sneaking out and hiring professional actors. First off they're not necessarily people with a stage background. There's plenty of lawyers and news media folks among the politicians, and both those jobs are a kind of acting, though not stage acting.

Second, there are no lists. There's tournaments that weed out whoever is undesirable to the powers that be. Let's say you want to be a politician. Unless you're in some remote area where they might, possibly, elect an independent (who will be totally powerless anyway), you're going to have to be nominated to run for a major political party if you hope to get elected. The nomination process weeds out whoever doesn't tow the party line or cannot do a good acting performance. So even before you get to election, almost everyone fielding themselves for election is already (a) an actor and (b) towing the party line.

Of course, we don't have a one-party state. But two or three parties is actually better for total control. It gives the illusion of choice by presenting a false dichotomy. This works like any other false dichotomy, you give someone two choices, both of which suit you.

The things that the powers that be want to do, are simply divided in half. They will all get done, by one administration or another. Likewise the things that the people want, are divided in half, and then used as a carrot to keep people voting, but none of it will get done. Each party uses the carrot to get support, but when it comes to delivering, they put it off or make like it's impossible, or if they get called out, they just use the fear of the other party and do a Chicken Little routine about the other party winning the next election if they do it.

Control of the whole system is a simple matter of campaign financing and/or promised rewards (seats on the boards of major companies etc) ... most of this is just right out in the open, there is no need to hide it.
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby brianv on March 15th, 2015, 12:38 pm

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Caught this glimpse of Uncle Tom Obongo in his new role as stand-up-comedian...wait a minute that was his old job! Being a liar and mass murderer does so take it's toll on one's appearance, doesn't it?

Fugitive Slave Act 1850
"An Act respecting Fugitives from Justice, and Persons escaping from the Service of their Masters"

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Flabbergasted on March 15th, 2015, 4:11 pm

smj wrote:And then there's Wittgenstein's nephew and co-founder of cybernetics (with the likes of Norbert Weiner and Gregor(y) Bateson), Heinz von Foerster. Heinz once fell into an autopoietic fervor and let slip the hustle...

What a precious slip!
It took me a while to realize this, but metaphysically invalid assumptions about the nature of time, space, matter and energy do not prevent modern technology from being highly efficient. CM´s Santa problem scenario (viewtopic.php?f=18&t=246&p=2391184#p2391184) illustrates very nicely how the poetry Foerster speaks about may be coated in a thick varnish of respectable scientific methodology.
These earlier posts are also relevant: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1424&p=2380347#p2380347 & viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1632&p=2385065#p2385065
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Flabbergasted on March 15th, 2015, 4:34 pm

smj wrote:I suppose grand narratives require grand personae to push the archetype [...] as did Putin.

That´s quite true. Even when the body is someone else´s. :lol:

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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Maat on March 15th, 2015, 10:06 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:
smj wrote:I suppose grand narratives require grand personae to push the archetype [...] as did Putin.

That´s quite true. Even when the body is someone else´s. :lol:

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Flabbergasted, I'm not sure what you mean re Putin doing the same shirtless "macho" pose as Mussolini. I didn't see any obvious signs that Putin's body was pasted on, or did I miss something? :unsure:

If they were gonna use a body double, I would have thought they'd choose a better "model" :P — but plenty of others have had fun with it, of course: https://www.google.com/search?q=shirtle ... 4#imgdii=_
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Flabbergasted on March 15th, 2015, 10:58 pm

Maat wrote:I didn't see any obvious signs that Putin's body was pasted on, or did I miss something? :unsure:

I was referring to the messy purple "shadow" on his right shoulder/clavicle (including a perceptible darker outline), the back of his head where it meets the hat (not so obvious), the interrupted necklace, the pasted-on glasses, and the bleeding straps hanging from the hat. The head is conveniently separated from the body by a shadow line (although this alone is not evidence of photoshopping).
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Maat on March 15th, 2015, 11:26 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:
Maat wrote:I didn't see any obvious signs that Putin's body was pasted on, or did I miss something? :unsure:

I was referring to the messy purple "shadow" on his right shoulder/clavicle (including a perceptible darker outline), the back of his head where it meets the hat (not so obvious), the interrupted necklace, the pasted-on glasses, and the bleeding straps hanging from the hat. The head is conveniently separated from the body by a shadow line (although this alone is not evidence of photoshopping).

Yeah, it gets harder to tell on pics that have been saved, compressed, resized etc. countless times (which were no doubt touched-up/modified to begin with anyway). There are a lot of him doing those "photo ops" though, with the same aged bod; so it seems to be his (the hat etc. could have been added later).

What is blatantly fake is the whole "outdoors macho badass" theme belied by his pasty white skin — obviously not something he does regularly; just posing as "hunter, rider, fisherman" for a 20 minute shoot of propaganda pics :rolleyes:

Oh wait, he doesn't look quite so bad when you consider the “competition” :lol:

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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Flabbergasted on March 16th, 2015, 12:21 am

Maat wrote:Yeah, it gets harder to tell on pics that have been saved, compressed, resized etc. countless times (which were no doubt touched-up/modified to begin with anyway).

You may be right. I found this version of the second picture which looks legit:
http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/image ... 052b-1.jpg
(same pants and belt, same rod and reel, same watch, but different glasses, no hat and possibly a different necklace).

Maat wrote:the same aged bod...

Oh my, you got me worried there! :)
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Re: Major leaders are pretty much all actors?

Postby Maat on March 16th, 2015, 12:33 am

Flabbergasted wrote:
Maat wrote:the same aged bod...

Oh my, you got me worried there! :)

Nah, no need to be “worried”! Just noting they hadn’t swapped Putin’s pecs with a younger version ;)

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Ah, now if you want a classic shooper blooper of Vladimir Putin, this one of him as a 6-year old pasted over his mother’s knees makes the NASA Kelly “twins” look almost normal :lol:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin "Vladimir Putin with his mother, Maria Ivanovna Putina, in July 1958."

It appears to have been composed from 2 or 3 entirely separate photos, (one of him sitting on a chair + another of his mother's head) — they probably didn’t have one of mother & son together so tried to shoop it. Unfortunately, he's hovering in air and mama’s awkward right “arm” is a dismal failure. :rolleyes:

http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio
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