Engineering Racism

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Wow, dear Patrik and pov603, thanks for catching this "triple terror trio"...it almost feels like the Nutwork psychos are reading this thread - and wished to remind us all of ...

"HOW WE GO ABOUT ENGINEERING RACISM"

As the story goes, there have been as many as three separate, horrendous "hate-related" crimes (in the USA alone) "in the last 72 hours" !

So let's take a quick look at these three different "terror deeds" reported on this CNN page: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/28/us/7 ... index.html
["TERROR DEED 1"]: "Wednesday, a white man with a history of violence shot and killed two African-Americans, seemingly at random, at a Kentucky Kroger store following a failed attempt to barge into a black church."

["TERROR DEED 2"]:"After mail bombs were being sent to people who'd been criticized by the President, a suspect was arrested Friday -- a man who had railed against Democrats and minorities with hate-filled messages online."

["TERROR DEED 3"]: "And Saturday morning, a man shouting anti-Semitic slurs opened fire at a Pittsburgh synagogue, killing 11 people attending Jewish services.

Those three incidents in 72 hours shared one thing: hate."
The first thing we should note is that all three of those reported "terror deeds" were supposedly carried out by "lone madmen" of white(ish) complexion (i.e. so-called "white supremacists" or, in any case, not the usual "muslim terrorist" meme - a very much worn-out meme which appears to be out of favor in the current "Trump era"). The second thing we should note is, of course, that the odds of three such (separate & totally unrelated) "terror deeds" occurring (in the USA alone) within a 72-hour timespan are nothing less than astronomical. But let's get on and take a closer look at these three presumed "murderous haters":

"TERROR DEED 1" > alleged lone madman : "Gregory Bush, a 51-year-old white man".
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"A 51-year-old man with a history of domestic violence arrests and using racist slurs has been identified as the suspect accused of randomly shooting and killing two people at a Kroger supermarket Wednesday in Jeffersontown, Kentucky, near Louisville. Gregory Bush was taken into custody by police near the scene of the shooting after fleeing in his car when he was confronted by another man with a gun. The man who confronted him said Bush did not shoot him because they are both white. Both of the victims are black, but police have not determined if they were targeted because of their race."
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/gregory-bush/
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"TERROR DEED 2" > alleged lone madman : "Cesar Sayoc, a 56-year-old man of Italian /Filipino origins".

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image source: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 388905.cms

You can read all about "Cesar Sayoc" [an anagram of "a accessory"?]at this CNN page: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/26/poli ... index.html

Now, get this: we are told that "Cesar Sayoc" has a criminal record going as far back as 1991, and has been arrested 9 times over the years. Apparently, the most notable of these arrests was in 2002:

"Notable among them was a 2002 arrest: Sayoc threatened to bomb the Florida Power and Light Co., Miami police alleged, and said that "it would be worse than September 11th." (see above-linked CNN page)

Yet, further down in that CNN page, we can read:

"Sayoc was not previously known to the Secret Service, law enforcement sources said."

Meanwhile, over at the Telegraph.co.uk website, we can find this... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... w-devices/
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Caption: "Cesar Sayoc's police booking photos over the years: first, 2002, then two in early 2004, then in 2015"

And this man, we're expected to believe, "was not previously known to the Secret Service" ??? The silliness of these psyops is truly astonishing. WHEN, oh WHEN will the general public start realizing that these media-reported "terror deeds" are entirely phony events staged by their own governments? WHAT will it take to have this world's population reject "en masse" ALL of this disgraceful propaganda scheme? I can only hope that the efforts we do on Cluesforum will help achieve just that.

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"TERROR DEED 3" > alleged lone madman : "Robert Bowers", a 46-year-old Pittsburgh resident.

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"A man shouting anti-Semitic slurs ran inside the Tree of Life synagogue in the close-knit neighborhood of Squirrel Hill and opened fire, killing 11 people. Six people were injured in the attack, but it left many more hurting. Robert Bowers, 46, was identified as the gunman and arrested. He had frequently expressed his disdain for Jews on social media, a federal law enforcement official said. Social media posts targeting Jews that are believed to have come from Bowers are a focus of the investigation, a federal law enforcement official told CNN."
(source: see above-linked CNN page)

Here's some more "information" to be found online about the alleged shooter of 11 synagogue goers:
"An archived, verified account in Bowers’ name on social media site Gab included countless anti-Semitic posts. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society “likes to bring invaders in that kill our people,” the account posted on Saturday morning. “I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I’m going in.” The account also included a post calling Jews “the children of satan.”
https://www.thewrap.com/robert-bowers-p ... t-we-know/

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"He faces 29 criminal counts, including use of a firearm to commit murder." (...)
"Eleven counts of obstruction of exercise of religious beliefs resulting in death."
"Eleven counts of use of a firearm to commit murder during and in relation to a crime of violence." (etc.)
"US media said he had shouted "All Jews must die" as he carried out the attack."
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"Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a Jewish non-governmental organisation that fights anti-Semitism, said he was "devastated". "We believe this is the deadliest attack on the Jewish community in the history of the United States," he said in a statement."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46007707

What a week... ( I mean, what a "72-hour-terror-nightmare"!) :rolleyes:
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Oh my. . . that nasty infotainment site known as Heavy.com. And that’s of course in addition to the other sickening media outlets with their usual garbage.

I guess this is all to be expected during the fall with a run up to what is referred to as the “mid-term elections.”

The programmers understand full well that a large percentage of people are sitting on the couch watching American Football from roughly Thursday afternoon/evening until late Monday night. And “thankfully” the watchers get routine updates with “breaking news” throughout. :rolleyes:

I’ve noticed on bike rides with my kids (and so forth), even on beautiful weekend days, that there are relatively few people playing outside in what is really an ideal neighborhood for such activities.

I think it’s safe to say all this racial pot-stirring is a large component of the broader social engineering that is constantly bombarding humanity.

Thanks to each of you for posting this. I wouldn’t have known about all this terror on the television otherwise.

SCS :)
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I just noticed on the web-page of the Beeb about the Pittsburgh shooting there is an audio tape of the "capture" after a shootout...
When stating that an "operator is hit high on the arm..." it sounds like the voice says 'tourniketted it...er...put a tourniquet on it...".
Almost as if he is reading it "live" at speed and forgets to pronounce it properly but then corrects himself.
I do not think that such a "mistake" would be a spur of the moment thing unless one was reading from a script as it is a word that a firearms operative must be used talking about but may not necessarily be something he ever has to read about it, i.e, seeing something fleetingly will knock you off-track/balance.
I don't know...I think they put these things in to keep us going around the hamster wheel especially when we lock horns with "believers"...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46007707
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simonshack wrote:The silliness of these psyops is truly astonishing. WHEN, oh WHEN will the general public start realizing that these media-reported "terror deeds" are entirely phony events staged by their own governments? WHAT will it take to have this world's population reject "en masse" ALL of this disgraceful propaganda scheme? I can only hope that the efforts we do on Cluesforum will help achieve just that.
Fortunately, here in Italy it seems that some folks are waking up to the giant, ongoing farce. Here's what someone posted on Facebook today :

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"FOR GOOD MEASURE"...

So are only muslims, blacks and white supremacists committing horrendous terror deeds these days? Nah - that wouldn't sound plausible, would it?

Therefore, for good measure, the ongoing "Lone & Hateful Madman Shooter" script needs the occasional Jewish entry... This is from August this year :


"Gunman David Katz kills 2, takes own life at Florida video game tournament"

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JACKSONVILLE, Florida — Two people were killed and 11 others wounded Sunday when a video game tournament competitor went on a shooting rampage before turning the gun on himself in the northern Florida city of Jacksonville, local police said.
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The Forward reported that Katz was Jewish.
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The Miami Herald identified the victims as Taylor Robertson, 27, of Ballard, West Virginia and Elijah Clayton, 22, of Woodland Hills, California.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least- ... ournament/
The alleged white & black victims :
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Read all about it here: https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least- ... ournament/
(Note: the title of that Times of Israel link is: "at least 4[????] reported killed in shooting at florida video game tournament" ...Go figure...)
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ElSushi » October 30th, 2018, 7:45 am
simonshack » October 26th, 2018, 7:53 am wrote:
Kham wrote: Seems to me racism is one small factor of generalized ignorance concerning the other humans with which we share the planet.
Dear Kham,

I agree with your above statement (apart from the word "small" - which I'd swap with "huge"). The thing is, this ignorance has been growing exponentially in later decades - and especially in matters of "racial intolerance". For instance, in Italy where I live there was hardly a trace (say, 20 years ago) of any sort of 'hatred' or intolerance against muslims / Arabs / Africans.

Italy was, in fact, famed worldwide for its friendliness towards the Arabic world (and Africa in general). Today, this is no longer true: there has been a virtual explosion of rampant "Islamophobia" all over the press and social media. On Facebook, for example (yes I "confess" that I have an FB page, mostly so as to stay in touch with my local friends), hardly a day goes by without someone posting some appalling "racial slur" against "muslims / brown or black" people (and yes, even some distant acquaintances of mine occasionally indulge in such cringeful crap - *sigh*).

Moreover, it is simply not true that no one will ever admit to be a racist. I've heard various local folks (on the street/or at social gatherings) utter words more or less to this tune: "Yes, call me a bloody racist! If some bloody towelheads can blow themselves up in a restaurant - or crash a truck into a street crowd, I certainly AM a bloody racist!"
Simon,I hate to sound like a bitter individual trying to keep his cool but France now counts more than
12 million Muslims (a now commonly accepted figure which the official media culprits constantly keep hiding from the public) out of a population of 66 million (the beast number, as "they" say). France is being massively overwhelmed / overflown by immigrants and I am not going to fall into the rabbit rhetoric hole by blaming the migrants directly as I am well aware of the long-awaited plan (manigance!) aimed at generating complete ethnic chaos in Europe, also known as the infamous Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi master plan (proudly designed by the sacrosanct "blue team") for a truly unified Europe embracing diversity. Oh yeah, such a great plan, really.

And from my own experience, I can assert that those African immigrants do not really intend to assimilate with the rest of the population. And so what? Why don't France, Italy, Germany fully embrace this new "we are all different but we live in the same country after all" wonderful modern paradigm? Well, probably for the very good reason that most European nations have built their very own unique anthropological models all along the history, and that is probably what I cherish the most, being myself a proud "white Latin" European (arrr,"white", such a terrible word nowadays, isn't it?), fully embracing DIVERSITY OUTSIDE not within.

Less than 2 weeks ago, I was walking down the popular district called " Saint Michel - Cours de la Marne " in Bordeaux, France and it literally felt like visiting Bamako for 30 min. Pratique ! 500m later, some north African kids were playing soccer right in front of the majestic Saint André Cathedral, while the ball was bouncing back and forth about 10m away from the main entrance. Without no one even saying anything. Stay cool. Keep quiet.

Try to do that in the Medina of Marrakesh, good luck! You can't even walk along the eye-candy Mosques around there as the locals will tell you to back up. Let me try to play soccer over there next time, I heard the kids never refuse to throw a good soccer party. :wacko:

I am way too aware of what most of these immigrant populations really think about white Europeans as a whole and it isn't really nice, beLIEve me.

Seeing this upcoming European civil war from Japan (I myself am a long term resident of Japan) is like
witnessing the collapse of our civilization.
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ElSushi » October 30th, 2018, 7:45 am wrote: And from my own experience, I can assert that those African immigrants do not really intend to assimilate with the rest of the population.
Is assimilation a task of the "foreign body" -- and not rather that of the receiver?

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And: is it not kinda "racism" to assume that arabs would not allow (white) kids playing with the ball (even soccer) before their temples' entrance? – I don't know but I think their hypocrisy is much lighter than ours. Kids footballig there is still much better than tourism...

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Our perceptions are very much influenced and controlled by official reports, I mean census data and other statistics (published by the media). Why to give them full credit?
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simonshack wrote:...in Italy where I live there was hardly a trace (say, 20 years ago) of any sort of 'hatred' or intolerance against muslims / Arabs / Africans. Italy was, in fact, famed worldwide for its friendliness towards the Arabic world (and Africa in general). Today, this is no longer true...
Simon, your forebears, the Norman rulers of Sicily and Southern Italy in the 11 and 12th centuries, were in fact famed for their multiethnic social organization and religious tolerance. Norman, Arab, Byzantine and Jewish communities coexisted peacefully under their prosperous rule, although I am not sure they intermarried. The language of the court was Old Norman or Old French, but all royal edicts were written in the language of the people they were addressed to: Latin, Byzantine Greek, Arabic, or Hebrew. Roger II of Sicily was fluent in Arabic and used Islamic architects and government officials quite extensively.

But that was then.
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Flabbergasted » November 3rd, 2018, 5:14 pm wrote: Simon, your forebears, the Norman rulers of Sicily and Southern Italy in the 11 and 12th centuries
Since the Normans of France apparently could trace their ancestors back to Vikings from what became modern-day Norway, and Simon is Norwegian, I suppose technically your statement is accurate. However, it seems a little bit of a stretch to assume that Simon's heritage is actually descended from a bunch of Frenchmen, especially given that Norway didn't exist until long after the Viking - and Norman - periods. Further, it doesn't seem the least bit likely that Simon's heritage traces back to Sicilian Normans.
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Flabbergasted » November 4th, 2018, 7:14 am wrote:
simonshack wrote:...in Italy where I live there was hardly a trace (say, 20 years ago) of any sort of 'hatred' or intolerance against muslims / Arabs / Africans. Italy was, in fact, famed worldwide for its friendliness towards the Arabic world (and Africa in general). Today, this is no longer true...
Simon, your forebears, the Norman rulers of Sicily and Southern Italy in the 11 and 12th centuries, were in fact famed for their multiethnic social organization and religious tolerance. Norman, Arab, Byzantine and Jewish communities coexisted peacefully under their prosperous rule, although I am not sure they intermarried. The language of the court was Old Norman or Old French, but all royal edicts were written in the language of the people they were addressed to: Latin, Byzantine Greek, Arabic, or Hebrew. Roger II of Sicily was fluent in Arabic and used Islamic architects and government officials quite extensively.

But that was then.
Without ignoring all those major geopolitical / ethnological / anthropological aspects - I could also and easily point out the case of Islamic Spain with the Muslim forces conquering the Iberian peninsula until 1492 - the Ahlambran Place being the finest surviving palace of Muslim Spain- but I am not quite sure whether Mr. Kalergi and his very Abraham-ic followers were having those past geopolitical realities in mind when our beloved European Zionist traitors sitting in high positions have been playing the old divide and conquer trick for the last 20 years in order to generate a massive ethnic chaos in WHITE Europe.
That's just the same old trick, everyone is mixed with some other ethnicity, there is zero homogeneity, our DNA code is made of very fluctuating elements so swallow that shut the f??k up and embrace multi-racialism to the fullest. We simply need to redefine clear ideological / biological boundaries and the 3rd Reich did that back then.
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fbenario wrote:...it doesn't seem the least bit likely that Simon's heritage traces back to Sicilian Normans...
Yes, of course, fbenario. The connection with Simon´s physical person was sort of tongue-in-cheek. It was intended to encourage him to look into the history of the Kingdom of Sicily, if he hasn´t done so already.
ElSushi wrote:... I could also and easily point out the case of Islamic Spain...
A fascinating period to study, with much to learn about statesmanship and coexistence between ethnicities and religions. On this topic I warmly recommend Burckhardt´s "Moorish Culture in Spain".
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A fascinating period to study, with much to learn about statesmanship and coexistence between ethnicities and religions. On this topic I warmly recommend Burckhardt´s "Moorish Culture in Spain".
Cultures do not really coexist, at some inevitable point, they collide.
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ElSushi » November 4th, 2018, 11:30 am wrote:
Cultures do not really coexist, at some inevitable point, they collide.
Yes, in the final phase of their degeneration. (Even the statement has been formulated in the present tense.)

What is culture btw?-- (Flabbergasted mentioned ethnicities and religions. Are they productions of it?)
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IMMIGRANTS AND ECONOMY’S

When cultures are put together it is not if their own choosing. Empires make the rules to move people about this globe. If I choose to move to any other country I must get permission from my current country to exit and permission from the target country to enter. Many countries streamline this process so it feels like we have freedom but that freedom to leave and come back can be interrupted by empire at any time and we would be powerless to change it.

Moving ones family to another country is traumatic as hell because one is going to the unknown to negotiate a new society which means new schools, new doctors, new routes, new ways of purchasing, new homes and new government red tape. There are a number of reasons groups emigrate. Top of the list is that families want to improve their earning potential because conditions back home are financially limited. Who handles a country’s economy in order to encourage movement, both the one a person is leaving and the one the person is entering?

IMMIGRANTS AND ASSIMILATION

What I have learned in the nearly 40 years of living in and participating in Muslim communities which include groups from dozens of different cultures living here in the United States is that the larger the presence of the cultural group the longer it takes to assimilate to the American culture. Assimilation however is inevitable. It doesn’t seem to matter if one practices their religion or not. They eventually ‘buy into’ empires current desired version of culture. Just look at immigrant’s Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat and Pinterest accounts to name a few. One will see Holloween participated to the fullest. Of course there are those strict Muslims who do not celebrate any US holidays, just like certainly groups of strict Christians don’t celebrate holidays.

Empires military media is engineered to make holidays extremely attractive and is also pushed by schools, retail stores (see Black Friday), municipalities, hospitals, etc. Who chooses what holidays are officially celebrated and what days are taken off for each holiday?

Empires choose it all; what the current culture will be, what people’s will be moved, where to move them to, what effect the immigrants will have on the existing culture, and what cultural and economic form the immigrants will eventually assimilate into.

IMMIGRANTS AS RESOURCES

The main role of empires is people and land management. People and land, as engineered by empires come with vast resources to be shared with elite stakeholders who help empire do its job of handling populations so that they stay in line in order from which to be profited. An unruly people are costly to empire. We mess with their well thought out thousand year plan.

What made it possible for Muslims to immigrate to France? Are those Muslims choosing to destroy the fabric of the ‘homegrown’ French culture? Or are they a pawn in empires game? It’s seems incredibly short sighted and tunnel-visioned to blame the immigrant for changes to a society.
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Kham » November 4th, 2018, 11:14 am wrote:
IMMIGRANTS AS RESOURCES

The main role of empires is people and land management. People and land, as engineered by empires come with vast resources to be shared with elite stakeholders who help empire do its job of handling populations so that they stay in line in order from which to be profited.
That’s it right there. You’ve brilliantly summarized the goal of the Empire (to borrow your terminology). The only thing the Empire (at least attempts to) controls is “people and land” (i.e. everywhere and everyone). How petty of us to resent this fact. :rolleyes:
An unruly people are costly to empire. We mess with their well thought out thousand year plan.
Well, I do at least make an effort to be “unruly.” So I’m doing my part. :)
What made it possible for Muslims to immigrate to France? Are those Muslims choosing to destroy the fabric of the ‘homegrown’ French culture? Or are they a pawn in empires game? It’s seems incredibly short sighted and tunnel vissioned to blame the immigrant for changes to a society.
Excellent point. This does seem to be one that tends to get lost in the discussion at times. So, we decry the invasion and exploitation of “third world” nations by the Empire, and simultaneously pretend that the victims should just remain there?

We would have to start a new topic called “Displaced Humans in the Vacuum.” :wacko:
[That was an attempt at humor. Please, for heaven sakes, nobody start a “topic” like that.]

But seriously, few people like change. Even fewer like change that involves new and different (and especially uninvited) people on their territory. On that point, I am exceedingly sympathetic.

My point here is that there is a very complex set of dynamics in play, and it would be disingenuous to oversimplify those things.

Thank you Kham for that post.

SCS :)
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