The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:28 pm

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The other day, the current secretary of State (and former Director of the CIA) Mike Pompeo was asked this very simple question:

"Do you believe the Coronavirus is a hoax?"

Mike simply refused to answer the question. :mellow:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGwkXF3bNd0


Let's see how pundits will try and "downplay" this one...

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:40 pm

The media angle on this is however that the Democrat Ted Lieu who is asking if Mike Pompeo thinks the Coronavirus is the hoax of the day is asking this because he is so upset that the Trump administration has raised suspicions in that direction.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4851 ... ou-believe

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:05 pm

patrix wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:40 pm
The media angle on this is however that the Democrat Ted Lieu who is asking if Mike Pompeo thinks the Coronavirus is the hoax of the day is asking this because he is so upset that the Trump administration has raised suspicions in that direction.
Sure, dear Patrix, I was quite aware of that - and did not suspect for a second that Lieu was a "coronavirus-denier" who was hoping for a "yes" answer... :P

What I find interesting though is how clumsily Pompeo handled Lieu's simple question. Why not just say "no"? To be sure, he wasn't under any pressure to answer "yes" just because Trump had talked about a "Coronavirus hoax". As it is, on March 1 Trump had promptly "clarified what he actually meant" with his earlier "hoax speech"...


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-PVkBElWRs

So there you are: Trump never meant to say that the virus itself is a hoax - it was just yet another classic red herring (quite typical of Trump's scriptwriters) for us alternative thinkers' consumption. Still, I wonder why Pompeo responded [not] as awkwardly as he did. By refusing to say "no", I'd think that your average Joe and Joan would raise their eyebrows and smell rotten fish? Go figure. I suppose the plan is to dump Trump and replace him with another comedian - or what?... Not that it matters much either way - the American presidential soap opera goes on, and I'm certainly no soap opera expert! Thoughts always welcome.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:03 pm

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This is getting way too silly, folks ... :rolleyes:

I have updated my earlier post (of February 23, 2020) with the two below "news items" :

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UPDATE (March 7, 2020)

March 4, 2020 :
Coronavirus Update: 11 Cases Confirmed In N.Y., Most Connected To New Rochelle Attorney
"NEW ROCHELLE, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in New York has grown to 11, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday."

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/03/04 ... uarantine/

March 5, 2020:
"US coronavirus death toll hits 11 with new infections in New York, LA; California declares state of emergency"
The first California death from the virus was announced by health officials as an elderly adult with underlying health conditions. It was the first coronavirus fatality in the US outside of Washington state, where 10 have died.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/unit ... os-angeles

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:00 pm

Thank you for finally starting this long awaited thread! I have been wishing the energy and time to start it myself. There is plenty to analyze in terms of the videos for China - a lot that appears to be off.

The archives of 4chan have a lot of webms from China, if it can help:
Thread 1: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 2: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 3: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 4: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 5: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 6: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/
Thread 7: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/t ... order/asc/

That said, at the cost of appearing misinformed here, at this stage I don't think this virus is completely fabricated. I have a couple of friends who work in hospitals in Lombardy and they are seeing quite the mayhem. People getting in with insets of pneumonia who in a short while need respirators to survive, in numbers never seen before. Entire departments of these hospitals have been re-hauled to host the infected, while regular sick people are put on waiting lists. There seems to be something at work there that is not entirely common.
I just think that the response to "a virus" (whatever that is) has been calibrated to be of a certain force and manner so that it creates panic and fear, where the response could have been much more moderate and level headed. Someone might have decided to use this or provoke this to collapse the global economy and gain more control, starting from China to set the pace in exaggeration and repression -- and/or it is distraction from something else, which was my first hunch upon seeing the news from China a month ago. Not sure what this "something else" might be.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:29 pm

golden numbers on repubblica.it
2020-03-08 03_27_27-News and Info __ la Repubblica - News in tempo reale - Le notizie e i video di p.png
11 provinces on lockdown
1145 more sick since yesterday
233 victims
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by aa5 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:41 am

It occurred to reading the stories you guys posted, that this huge coronavirus story in Italy might be the cover the EU/Germans need to begin the reforms in Italy for real. There is no way you can make a huge move to make huge 'reforms' to the regulatory state, government administration and so forth of a whole country without some sort of crisis going on.

The analogy I would give is some kid who is terrified of a needle going into him, but the nurses distract him and while the kid is distracted the doctor stabs the needle in him. Then when the kid figures out what is going on and gets angry, its too late the medicine is already inside him.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:47 pm

Interesting footage on 4chan Nonhocapito but are we to believe that a scene like below is real?
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1580290601269.webm

As for this being a real pandemic I don't buy it for a second. People are getting sick and have respiratory problems year round and at the end of the winter there's a peak that we usually call flu season except when it's rebranded by media as Swine flu, Sars or Coronavirus.

Edit: Not saying the situation in hospitals are not real but I believe I can figure out how it's fabricated -
More people seek medical care because of the media scare. Tests are used that indicate some of them to be Corona positive. Special routines are carried out for these patients that puts strain on the hospital personell and patients. They are put in isolation and respirators etc.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:05 pm

patrix wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:47 pm
Not saying the situation in hospitals are not real but I believe I can figure out how it's fabricated -
More people seek medical care because of the media scare. Tests are used that indicate some of them to be Corona positive. Special routines are carried out for these patients that puts strain on the hospital personell and patients. They are put in isolation and respirators etc.
You may be onto something, the test may be the key. If the test is designed to return a lot of false positives, it's easy to see how hospitals would get overloaded. It's not clear to me if everyone who has temperature is hospitalized, or they send them home until they have pneumonia. But we can imagine how terrified these people would be at that point. Even if it's true that these are different pneumonias, which are much worse than usual, and that they get worse faster than usual, the placebo effect could have something to do with it.
[edit] Italian hospitals, true, are politically run and probably easy to handle. I wouldn't be surprised if all hospital directors were onto some sort of scam, if that was deemed necessary. And of course even easier is to get the media, local or national, onboard. But it can't be so with doctors or nurses, who are mostly just ordinary people doing their job. Can they even be fooled by x-rays and fake tests and fearful patients? If the x-rays show a particularly bad form of bilateral pneumonia, in particularly high numbers, could this be faked hospital after hospital, on a national level? It seems very unlikely to me. Looking forward to hear insights and ideas from other researchers here.[/edit]

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:34 pm

Here is something else found on /pol/
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This was allegedly posted long before the patient one showed up in Italy. It predicts a global economic collapse (easy prediction at this point) but more importantly hints at the fact that the dramatic response in Italy was going to be set up by the WHO to pilot how the emergency response would work in a western country. This "prediction" could simply be another facet of a complex psyop, or it could truly explain why so many cases are showing in Italy.
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:18 pm

Sorry if I post from /pol/ again, but truth be told it is a quick source for things you don't easily find elsewhere.
This was a thread about MSM engineering the panic.
2020-03-09 01_14_57-News and Info __ (187) _pol_ - MSM is fabricating stories Coronavirus panic - Po.png
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/247068708
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm

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Dear Nonhocapito,

The bottom line is that this supposed Coronavirus "pandemic" has obviously been planned in advance of the supposed Coronavirus outbreak.

You'll now probably ask me: "how do I know this?"

Well, just set aside 11 minutes of your life and watch (all the way to the end) this video , uploaded on November 4, 2019 :

Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

So no need to look any further: these sick people ARE the virus...

I don't usually quote comments from Youtube videos - but this one (from the above video) sums up the whole scam quite nicely:
Hotman Pasaribu
1month ago

This event took place: October 18, 2019
Video uploaded: Nov 4, 2019
Wuhan first case: December 2019

It doesn't take a genius to smell something fishy
If you ask me what we can do about this, I'd say that the Johns Hopkins Center for Health and Security "think tank" and the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation (to name but two obvious culprits) should be immediately interrogated by an international court of law.

Of course, this will never happen - I'm only envisioning a scenario that should take place in an ideal world.

And no, neither you or I (or anyone else) has any way of verifying that there's an unusual amount of patients being treated in Italian hospitals for respiratory problems. What you mentioned [quote: " I have a couple of friends who work in hospitals in Lombardy and they are seeing quite the mayhem"] is nothing more than hearsay.

One thing is for sure, however: this supposedly unpredictable/ unexpected / freak "pandemia" was pre-planned. Period.

Check this out:
Pandemic “Global Exercise” October 2019 – 65,000,000 deaths expected…

It was just over 3 months ago that a global tabletop exercise — known as “Event 201” was hosted by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY.

The objective of the exercise was to illustrate their preparedness for a pandemic that will effect most people on the planet; — and not that they are worried too much as to how many may get infected and die, — as their efforts are more concentrated on how they are to deal with the expected large-scale economic and societal meltdown that would of course be the consequences of such a disastrous outbreak of a disease such as Coronavirus — or something like “Spanish Flu” — in which well in excess of 50 million people died making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history.

The Spanish flu — “forgotten pandemic.” — The 1918 flu pandemic [the Spanish Flu], was an unusually severe, and deadly influenza virus that raged into a pandemic that spread across the world. The pandemic lasted from June 1917 to December 1920, spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands.
And now precisely 100 years later in 2020 — “Coronavirus” has arrived to haunt us — and that to me this seems to be far from coincidental and more like a deliberate way to help roll-out this new global pandemic.
https://medium.com/@myhighstdfm/pandemi ... 67eb575b97

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:56 am

nonhocapito wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:05 pm

You may be onto something, the test may be the key. If the test is designed to return a lot of false positives
It's probably also the all too common case of the cure being part of the problem.

We've seen it repeatedly. Heart medication(statins) having heart disease as a side effect (along with muscle atrophy, dementia, diabetes and osteoporosis to mention a few more). Cancer treatment causing cancer. Etc etc.

The Spanish flu was sometimes treated with mercury, arsenic and frequently with the new "wonder-drug" at the time - aspirin that could cause bleeding in the lungs resulting in pneumonia that killed many patients.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 132346.htm

I don't know what suspected Corona cases are given at the hospitals today, but it may very well be something that will later be discovered to contribute to their symptoms.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by heniek1812 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:55 am

simonshack wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm
Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel
Amazing to watch how cavalier they are right now to the extent to show us the number "21" in that video title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

There is a video of a lady who lived through the pandemic in the US in 1918. She said that her mom was giving her baking soda. They survived while their neighbors around them died. Sodium Bicarbonate makes your blood more acidic which is not the preferred environment for viruses and bacteria.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by SacredCowSlayer » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:39 pm

simonshack wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm

Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel
Dear Simon,

Thank you for posting this video. These parasites are downright brazen, and barely even attempt to conceal their deceptive intent.

There are too many lines in that video to call attention to—but, I had a near jaw-dropping moment around the 4:31 mark, when the lady was commenting about how people/countries (generally) don’t produce things they don’t consume, “unless countries are going to bring about emergency situations . . .”

Others in the video go on to discuss the “need” to control “information” and so forth. It’s a rather stomach turning video in some ways. They also throw in the all too familiar ominous sound effects and strange imagery along with graphs and projections etc.

You’re right Simon. They are the virus.

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