The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby lux on October 24th, 2014, 1:24 am

Excellent post, Libero. Like the JFK/RFK/MLK "assassinations," this is another major news event that I was a "TV witness" to back in the crazy 60s. :)

Libero wrote:This is one of the few high profile alleged assassinations/attempts not touched on thus far on Cluesforum, but can we ascertain if it was "real?"


I have made some attempts at doing just that but so far haven't really gotten a handle on it. The footage of the "shooting" just isn't clear enough to call foul with certainty though I am, of course, highly suspicious of it.
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby bostonterrierowner on October 24th, 2014, 11:43 am

Libero wrote:According to the Merriam-Webster corporation, "nigger" contains multiple possible definitions:

1 usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a black person

2 usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race

3 a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons <it's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers … all the people who feel left out of the political process — Ron Dellums>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nigger

Wikipedia additionally provides information to the word's origin for those interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger



Very recently Polish Euro MP Janusz Korwin-Mikke used "N" world during the session:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6OkJbaXqQ

I think he meant definition number 3 :)

Time passes but this kind of rhetoric keeps resurfacing from time to time even in such "enlighted" institutions like European Parliament.

Just my 2 cents..
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NASA and dolphins...

Postby DeeJay on February 1st, 2015, 7:34 pm

Came across this strange article in the Daily Mail today about Malcolm Brenner, based in Florida, who apparently had a consensual whirlwind affair in 1971 with a female dolphin named Dolly. He wrote a book, the movie's been made.

Embedded in this article is a short piece about a Margaret Howe Lovatt, who, in the Virgin islands 1963, was hired to teach a male dolphin called Peter, to speak English. Her employer was NASA. What on earth (forgive the pun) was all that about?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934586/Man-SEX-dolphin-1970s-claims-new-film-performing-mammal-one-seduced-him.html

Forgive me, I tried to make a link to the specific piece but it doesn't work.

Out of this world... :blink:
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Re: NASA and dolphins...

Postby DeeJay on February 3rd, 2015, 4:36 pm

OK, after looking through pages of similar articles with no explanation as to why NASA should be involved, I finally found one article:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/08/the-dolphin-who-loved-me

Apparently, one Dr. John Lilly, an American neuroscientist, had become interested in the brain size of whales and dolphins and after a specific incident in which dolphins were imitating human voices, had written a book in 1961: "Man and Dolphin", in which he explored the possibility of interacting with a different species.

This book caught the attention of astronomers: "I'd read his book and was very impressed," says Frank Drake, who had just completed the first experiment to detect signals from extraterrestrial civilisations using a radio telescope at Green Bank in West Virginia. "It was a very exciting book because it had these new ideas about creatures as intelligent and sophisticated as us and yet living in a far different milieu." He immediately saw parallels with Lilly's work, "because we [both] wanted to understand as much as we could about the challenges of communicating with other intelligent species." This interest helped Lilly win financial backing from Nasa and other government agencies, and Lilly opened his new lab in the Caribbean in 1963, with the aim of nurturing closer relationships between man and dolphin."

Well, there goes nothing much except to rid myself of a mental itch.
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Re: NASA and dolphins...

Postby Flabbergasted on February 3rd, 2015, 5:35 pm

DeeJay wrote:Apparently, one Dr. John Lilly, an American neuroscientist, had become interested in the brain size of whales and dolphins and after a specific incident in which dolphins were imitating human voices, had written a book in 1961: "Man and Dolphin", in which he explored the possibility of interacting with a different species.

I think you are making an important connection with one of the items on NASA´s extra-official agenda: to promote evolutionism, among other things by insinuating there is nothing unique about man and earth, contrary to what any toddler knows to be true. If earth can harbor a diversity of big-brained species, such as those resourceful library-and-cathedral-building dolphins, so could the zillion planets they claim are out there waiting to be explored.
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Re: NASA and dolphins...

Postby DeeJay on February 3rd, 2015, 7:26 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:
DeeJay wrote:Apparently, one Dr. John Lilly, an American neuroscientist, had become interested in the brain size of whales and dolphins and after a specific incident in which dolphins were imitating human voices, had written a book in 1961: "Man and Dolphin", in which he explored the possibility of interacting with a different species.


I think you are making an important connection with one of the items on NASA´s extra-official agenda: to promote evolutionism, among other things by insinuating there is nothing unique about man and earth, contrary to what any toddler knows to be true. If earth can harbor a diversity of big-brained species, such as those resourceful library-and-cathedral-building dolphins, so could the zillion planets they claim are out there waiting to be explored.


Thank you, Flabbergasted, for your feedback. I actually hadn't thought of the bigger picture so focused was I on NASA vs. dolphin...

This was during the Kennedy administration though, when man HAD to step on the moon before the decade was out. I guess NASA had to pursue any avenue out there, including cathedral-building dolphins! :lol:

This article also highlighted the use of psychotropic drugs not only for recreational use but also condoned by the government for research into mental health issues. That these should have been tested by the good Dr. Lilly on his dolphins is disgusting beyond belief. What would make man want to colonize another planet when we mismanage our own so badly...
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby SacredCowSlayer on October 21st, 2015, 5:11 am

I was looking back into the Beltway Sniper shootings and I came across this not so subtle psy-op marker.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/10/vir ... s=PM:CRIME

"The mastermind behind the Washington-area sniper attacks of 2002 that terrorized the nation's capital was declared dead at 9:11 p.m. ET, said Larry Traylor, director of communications for the Virginia Department of Corrections."

Also, he was executed on November 10, 2009, or 10-11-09 (or 11-10-09 ...depending). But sheesh what are the odds?!

Then there is this for good measure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

"Muhammad's identification led to the discovery that he had purchased a former police car, a blue Chevrolet Caprice, in New Jersey on September 11, 2002."

"After his arrest, authorities also claimed that Muhammad admitted that he admired and modeled himself after Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, and approved of the September 11 attacks." Yes. . . of course.

By the way this event scared the shite out of me at the time. If it was indeed a psy-op then it was a powerful one! I was young and believed most of the news back then though.
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby ICfreely on February 14th, 2016, 8:45 am

Quadrilateralized spherical cube
In mapmaking, a quadrilateralized spherical cube, or quad sphere for short, is an equal-area mapping and binning scheme for data collected on a spherical surface (either that of the Earth or the celestial sphere). It was first proposed in 1975 by Chan and O'Neill for the Naval Environmental Prediction Research Facility.
This scheme is also often called the COBE sky cube, because it was designed to hold data from the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) project.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateralized_spherical_cube



The Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE), also referred to as Explorer 66, was a satellite dedicated to cosmology. Its goals were to investigate the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) of the universe and provide measurements that would help shape our understanding of the cosmos.

This work provided evidence that supported the Big Bang theory of the universe: that the CMB was a near-perfect black-body spectrum and that it had very faint anisotropies. Two of COBE's principal investigators, George Smoot and John Mather, received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2006 for their work on the project. According to the Nobel Prize committee, "the COBE-project can also be regarded as the starting point for cosmology as a precision science".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Background_Explorer



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Background_Explorer#/media/File:Cobe_vision1.jpg
Artist's concept of the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) spacecraft, the predecessor to the WMAP Project.
COBE was launched by NASA into an Earth Orbit in 1989 to make a full sky map of the Cosmic Microwave.

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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby ICfreely on March 4th, 2016, 9:01 pm

Have you fine folks who speak the King's English ever wondered what 'checkmate' means?

Well, wonder no more...

The Persian word for chess, shatranj, was probably derived from the Sanskrit chaturanga, the name of a chesslike game that was played on an eight-by-eight board (modern chaturanga is played on a twelve-by-twelve board). The terminology of modern chess has Persian etymological roots: the Persian word rukh ("rook") means chariot; the term shah mat ("checkmate") means, literally, "the king is frozen"). The poet Firdausi [Ferdowsi], responsible for versifying the Persian epic poem, the Shahnama [Shahnameh], discussed the game and its origins in the epic. He mentions that chess arrived from the land of Hind (India).

http://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2011/the-game-of-kings-medieval-ivory-chessmen-from-the-isle-of-lewis/exhibition-blog/game-of-kings/blog/shah-mat



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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby fubarfuthark on March 6th, 2016, 3:52 am

Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the paparazzi as something that does not probably exist. I actually had an experience with a paparazzi swarm in Britain's pestilential capital city.

I was walking in some side street somewhere around Bond Street, all I can remember of the circumstances is that for some reason some of the adjoining streets were closed to traffic and there were quite a few police cordons around. Cant remember what I was up to, I had no money then and I have even less now.I was probably looking for a Sam Smith's pub to have a cheap and miserable pint in. I think this was around early 2011. Anyway, as I was walking along I saw a group of minders in suits escorting somebody (who i did not see, but saw that they were female) out of a car and literally within the 15 second window between this person exiting her car and entering what looked like some sort of side door to something or other, a literal swarm of about 50 paparazzi came around the corner like ants and started snapping. They knocked me over in the scrum. And just as quick as they were arrived they were gone.

At the time I thought I had just happened to walk by someone famous getting photographed.

Now I think something different

I dont think they were there to photograph anybody. They were there to make a fake show of paparazzi presence to the person in question and the TV Crews. No other explanation really makes sense. So there is probably some confused starlet somewhere who thinks the paparazzi are following here even though her shots are staged, or something, and there probably exists some very undignified bastards among the British voting public who pretend to be paparazzi for the benefit of psy-opped stars and, most likely, the TV Crews who happen to be filming the star as she is being stalked by said paparazzi. Imagine, as a bystander, in dire need of a pint, getting caught up in such a thing. Talk about a fake world!
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby bostonterrierowner on March 6th, 2016, 11:07 am

Why wouldn't "paparazzi" exist ? Despite ubiquitous fakery world is full of flash and blood "celebrities" and people interested in their lives regardless of an amount of bullshit involved.

Only few days ago I personally stumbled upon an opening of some new "designer" boutique in one of the shopping malls. Lots of MSM whores, photographers etc.

Demand creates supply.
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby omaxsteve on March 10th, 2016, 9:48 pm

Not sure if this is the correct thread but I just came across this clip from a fifteen year old episode of the Simpson"s dealing with none other than Donald Trump becoming president of the USA:

have a look:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aTNskAOUKs

regards,

Steven

Note: edited to switch to better video of same event
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby bostonterrierowner on March 11th, 2016, 8:58 am

Wow! It's impossible! "Elections" would have to be a sham! :D :D :D

Good find Steve!

p.s.

What needs to be determined however is whether it really is a 15 yr old episode or the latest release
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby omaxsteve on March 11th, 2016, 6:37 pm

Thanks BTO, your comment caused me to do further research and it turns out that the video was not completely accurate.

While the Simpsons did air an episode in the year 2000 called "Bart to the Future" that mentioned Donald Trump as the president of the USA, the escalator scene
was taken from a promo clip that aired in between the 2015 and 2016 seasons (not from an actual episode). It was aired in July 2015 while the real footage of Trump going down the escalator is from June 16, 2015, prior to the air date of that clip.

I am glad that I discovered the "truth" as the implications of that escalator clip airing 15 years prior to the real event was a little too much, (even for my "conspiracy theorist") for my brain to digest.


I apologize for having misled anyone by posting the video without having adequately researched its authenticity.

Here is the full 90 second promo:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz7_JP7ROvA

Regards,


Steve O.
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Re: The Many Things That Make You Go Hmm...

Postby animus on March 12th, 2016, 12:02 pm

I'm not very good in reading a photo's ELA yet, so please help me with this one. Apparently on 15th Feb. an MD-11 freighter with a capacity of 95 tons of Western Global Airlines (former CIA's Southern Air Transport?), which started from Munich, Germany and should have landed in Durban, South Africa, made a forced landing in Harare, Zimbabwe. Because of blood dripping out of the fuselage the local police was alerted who then found 57 tons of cash in it (later it became 67 tons) as well as a corpse in the under-carriage. Here is an early article from 16th February: http://avherald.com/h?article=49409531

Ground staff at Munich Airport noticed the blood stains as well and reported the blood stain. The blood stains were identified as result of a bird strike however and no further action was taken.

:D If I were to inspect a plane and see a streak of blood right at the bottom edge of the door, I would not think of a bird strike!

Here is the original photo(not sure if really original but it's the best quality that I could find)
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And here is the ELA:
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The number 545 looks suspicious, also the red&blue all over the ELA image are a clear indication that it has been resaved at least once, right?
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