THE DERAILING ROOM

[fbenario]

Could it be sharpstuff was alluding to the synthetic nature of “foreign material” in (say) vaccines rather than blood (matched by type) which is a “natural material”?

Why would he need to allude to anything? Why not write simply and clearly, so that every reader understands what he is getting at?

He said, "ANY injection", which is ridiculous. Blood transfusions save lives every day.

Why do you attempt to give his words legitimate meaning, by concluding that "oh, he must have meant vaccines, not blood", instead of calling them out as purposely unclear and meandering? He then gets defensive, but instead of communicating exactly why I'm off-base, continues to use circular reasoning and sentence structure. The fact you and I are wasting each other's time with this disagreement shows how poorly he communicates his thoughts.

We haven't taken care of this forum for over a decade for it to come to this.

[simonshack]

We haven't taken care of this forum for over a decade for it to come to this.

Sorry, dear Fbenario - but I must comment on your above (rather harsh and uncalled-for) sentence, while hoping that this little skirmish between you and Sharpstuff won't escalate.

We all have our own, peculiar writing styles and each one of us, of course, may occasionally incur in hyperbolic, equivocal or less-than-crystal-clear language and dialectic in order to get across our points. As I see it, Sharpstuff's earnest contributions over the years to this forum - for all of their somewhat challenging nature - have all been enrichening. Besides, the sheer volume of his contributions is of some orders of magnitude larger than your own, isn't it?

Peace out.

[SacredCowSlayer]

We haven't taken care of this forum for over a decade for it to come to this.

Sorry, dear Fbenario - but I must comment on your above (rather harsh and uncalled-for) sentence, while hoping that this little skirmish between you and Sharpstuff won't escalate.

We all have our own, peculiar writing styles and each one of us, of course, may occasionally incur in hyperbolic, equivocal or less-than-crystal-clear language and dialectic in order to get across our points. As I see it, Sharpstuff's earnest contributions over the years to this forum - for all of their somewhat challenging nature - have all been enrichening. Besides, the sheer volume of his contributions is of some orders of magnitude larger than your own, isn't it?

Peace out.

[Bold inserted by SCS.]

Fbenario,

I agree with Simon in full—but, would like to take a moment and expound a bit further. The writings of Sharpstuff are as thought-provoking as they are informative. I am honored that such an extensive body of work has been published on this forum—it speaks for itself, and needs no defense from me.

Regardless, the main thing you need to understand is that the Admins/Mods pay attention to the forum, and we certainly know how to address a problem when it arises. There wasn’t a problem on this thread until you tried to play Moderator—it’s as simple as that.

Please don’t do it again.

Sincerely,

[Admin Notice (SCS): I moved this to the DR. Hopefully this is the end of the matter.]

[Mansur]

"Naturally, the inspiration and driving force behind the work was not academic, otherwise the book would never have materialized."

That is exactly what it is about. The passage I quoted refers to the most ambiguous "source of inspiration" possible. And if we don't focus primarily on this "inspiring source, or sources," we are going to keep our chat with it for ever…

"without any spiritual or religious interpolation"

It is absolutely impossible to say something about human origin "without any spiritual or religious interpolation" (lurking at the background), isn’t it? (And that’s the scandal all around science.)

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(In passing, I think Darwinism is now utterly dead, capable only of automatic reflex-activity of a dead body, - so there is a lot of danger in arguing with it, - and that it is not academic preaching that should be “exposed" and refuted, not a Dawkins, but rather such very intelligent guys like let’s say Berlinsky. This latter, moreover, is really of a very sympathetic and engaging type of speaker…

Roughly speaking: evolutionism serves as strawman for "creationists," and vice versa. And both parties are materialist to their core. Neither of them has anything to say that were of any interest – except the perpetual battle cries.

In the good old days, evolutionists quarreled over which part of the original theory could be saved somehow. By the time it‘s turned out - because it has turned out! and today’s professionals are mere epigones only - that nothing tenable was there in it at all, the brains of the general public were already completely washed by propaganda tenets. Here we go.

As I see the business, "creationism" was a logical step as it were to keep the everlasting battle noisy enough.)

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Is Mr. Cremo really a neglected person and the case he represents is really a neglected case, even at the university level? Let’s not forget it’s a bestseller that runs out of millions of copies.

I am not sure what you mean. Could you elaborate?

I just simply suppose, based on or rather confirmed by the information that the book is running out by millions, that pretty much all the student of paleoanthropology, maybe not only those poisoned already by "esoterism" of some kind, would hear of it, and if he is young enough the chance seems considerable to fall for it as well. And I think "Human Devolution," to which "Forbidden Archeology" seems to be only a preamble, is poisonous as hell.

[Flabbergasted]

As I see the business...

I appreciate your feedback, but I don´t know what to do with it. Every time I think I am following your reasoning, you lose me.

If you want to pursue these topics further, perhaps the chatbox would be a more appropriate thread.

[Mansur]

Every time I think I am following your reasoning, you lose me.

And would that be my fault? Seems to be a strange reasoning.

Anyway. This is your forum, your thread; you asked me and I answered and that's it.

[Admin Note (SCS): I’ve found these recent posts by Mansur (originally made on the Remote Antiquity thread) to be anything but clear. They have been moved to the DR accordingly.]