Are Movies Unwatchable?

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Re: Are Movies Unwatchable?

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Farcevalue wrote:Whether it's outright media fakery giving justification to the need for the state as protector from various and sundry bogeymen, or the ever present theme of the long-suffering policeman/detective/soldier/politician/judge/spy, etc. portrayed as faithfully sacrificing for "the people", it seems like all of it emanates from the pentagon nowadays. I find these themes intolerable, the constant reinforcement of the necessity of authoritarian sociopaths to plunder us in the name of keeping us safe.
Your first sentence is absolutely top-notch. The second clearly explains why all movies suck.

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http://www.zimbio.com/watch/dzHIZyi39c1 ... astic+Four

Many hollywood films include a small '911 physics' section.

In the above movie fantastic 4 (2005), towards the end of the clip - 40 secs, a fire engine skids on the Brooklyn Bridge, in what is a thrilling and artistically compelling scene ( :) ), we see the said fire engine slice through the thick steel girders of the bridge like a hot knife through butter or a 911 plane through the WTC. It all adds up.
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These are two sequences I ran into a while back, from the innocuous Bee movie by the innocuous comedian Jerry Seinfeld (2007). I don't think I got everything about that movie, really, not having inside information as to what the bee metaphor is meant to convey, behind the superficial meaning of the story. But here they are anyway.

around the 31st minute you have this:
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and this is the last sequence of the movie, while "Here comes the sun" is playing in the background:
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Haha!

Well at least it shows what actually happens to a flying object that collides with something stronger than itself - at least partially bounces off and falls to the ground. The rock seems uninjured. And not crumbling into dust from the top down, like complete nonsense. :lol:
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Just a general note/reference, I was watching a re-run of 'The Sum of All Fears' [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164184/] and noticed that in the scene on Air Force One where the Prez is asked to give the order to launch missiles ['Snapcount' I think is the term they use] he has to quote a number from a card he has in his possession and this is also backed up by another of his aides 'under the two-man rule'.
Anyway, the Prez says his 'number' [from a list that you briefly see on the card] is the 'third one from the top' with his aide's being the 'fourth one from the top' or something similar to that.
It struck me that this is a snide reference to the fact that the Prez isn't the top of the list as most people would expect him to be.
Is Tom Clancy trying to tell us something?
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Re: Are Movies Unwatchable?

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fbenario wrote:Right now I think all actors, and everyone else involved in tv/movies, are liars - and I despise lying with everything in me.

Anyone else find movies unwatchable now?
I will try to provide some examples of interesting movies below as I find the time.

Wojna swiatów - nastepne stulecie (The War of the World: Next Century) (1981)

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Martians make contact with Earth and "take over" although they are never actually seen. TV broadcasts instruct the population as to how they should behave. Our hero Iron Idem hosts an "independent" news show where he is told by the powers that be what to broadcast.

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The show is broadcast on SBB TV whose tagline is "Reality: We Create It."

When Iron attempts to regain his independence his wife is taken hostage and he is threatened. Eventually he reaches breaking point and refuses to carry on broadcasting. At a rock concert he is sent on stage to bid his public farewell but he "flips out" and starts berating the passive TV viewers.

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This doesn't go down well and leads to him being tried in court. The trial is broadcast on TV but in fact it is a sham and the judge is an actor and the jury have been pre-recorded and are edited in to the final broadcast.

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The trial footage is edited to make Iron look guilty and the viewers at home are told by his replacement to phone in with a guilty verdict, i.e. the public have a vote although the outcome has been decided for them.

In the meantime the public are told that the Martians have left and are shown footage of a rocket launch as evidence.

The next day Iron's execution by firing squad is to be broadcast on TV.

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I've uploaded Iron's "execution" as it summarises the message of the film: TV is a sham. Note the way Iron stares at the viewer (you!) with a withering look.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqN1iyYvcdE
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Kamikaze 1989 (1982)

In a totalitarian society of the future, in which the government controls all facets of the media, a homicide detective investigates a string of bombings, and finds out more than he bargained for.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2GBfc8eS_s


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydKMCwOfn2Y
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"Cowboys & Aliens"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys_%26_Aliens

Perhaps this movie, in its intrinsic squalor, has some relevance, as 2012 revival of the Alien threat theme -- whatever the purpose of such revival.

In any case, another waste of time, an awfully boring, predictable, phony propaganda movie in the best Hollywood tradition of course.

Steven Spielberg is executive producer on this movie. So it's a safe bet to conclude that some variable amount of propaganda must be in it. But it is like all movies are required to have a "subtle", brainwashing, 9/11 reminder these days. Although in this case, I noticed two reminders for two different events:

The first, a classic 9/11 reminder (orange explosion against tower.) We have enough of these to make an entire movie.

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The second, a reminder of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster:

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Now, one could wonder of how cynical can these zionist/CIA Hollywood operators be, playing on our emotions like that all the time, using material from "actual" tragedies to make their wildly expensive movies less boring. But the thing is that they obviously know very well all these events are fake. So what's the harm ? It's their big secret, the reason why they are supposed to sleep so well at night, etc etc.
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Perhaps this has been picked up already, however I wanted to mention Enemy of the State starring that versatile all round good egg Will Smith. There is a scene when they are 'jolly well going to get their own back' - he and Gene Hackman - whereby they begin to do some background work on that other good egg, namely Jon Voight (father of let's adopt a baby of every shade of brown - Angelina Jolle.)

Here's the thing. They call up his file and would you believe it - his date of birth is 09.11.40.
I just wonder what the chances are of a film of this nature having a scriptwriter fall on this date by chance. I'm sure someone will do the number crunching. Graphs and pie charts are not my thing. Given the Hollywood/Govt connections and the general compliance of the global mainstream media, together with the number of years that 9/11 was in preparation, it is not beyond the realms of credability that maybe, just maybe some was having a little fun at our expense!!
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El día de la bestia (The Day of the Beast) (1995)

A Basque priest finds by means of a cabalistic study of the bible that the anti-christ is going to be born on Christmas day in Madrid. Helped by a heavy-metal fan and by the showman of an esoteric TV program, he will try to invoke the devil to find out the place of birth and kill the baby.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9YqDcdWCfQ

The Puerta de Europa towers (Gate of Europe or just Torres KIO) are twin office buildings in Madrid. The towers have a height of 114 m (374 ft) and have 26 floors. They were constructed from 1989 to 1996. The Puerta de Europa is the second tallest twin towers in Spain after the Torres de Santa Cruz in Santa Cruz de Tenerife.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerta_de_Europa
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wag the dog (1997)
Why does the dog wag its tail?
Because the dog is smarter than the tail.
If the tail were smarter, it would wag the dog.

Wag the Dog was produced and directed by Barry Levinson,starring Dustin Hoffman and Robert De Niro.About a Washington spin doctor who, merely days before a presidential election, distracts the electorate from a sex scandal by hiring a Hollywood film producer to construct a fake war with Albania. The scheme enlists the aid of a country music singer, who creates several theme songs for the war; a "fad king"; and a costume designer, who helps create a fictional special forces unit to fight the war's supposed battles.

I always found the plot to this movie intriguing. :P

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog
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wtc-wtf wrote:I always found the plot to this movie intriguing. :P

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog
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As time goes along, I keep hearing the Luciferian philosophy being preached more frequently in various ways, the core belief of the U.N supported New Age movement. One such recent example from the movie industry is the viral advert created for Ridley Scotts movie 'Prometheus'.

'And ye shall be as gods':
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GROrp3XBRrE

All Joe average will get out of this video is a CEO talking about his intent to build a robot. What I hear is a CEO preaching the original lie of Satan to Eve about becoming god, through transhumanism, the merging of man and machine. This is the carrot (or should I say fruit) on the stick for the masses to grab at that will lead them right into the New World Order. This is how it began and this is how it will end.

The given official plot of the movie itself makes me even more suspicious:

"A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a journey to the darkest corners of the universe."

So yet again, the alien deception will serve as the X-factor for the real New World Order/Brave New World system to emerge.
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Keen perceptions, dcopymope. I like his list of major human achievements:

“…19th century: Eureka! the light bulb!; 20th century: the automobile, televison, nuclear weapons, spacecraft, the internet; 21st century: biotech, nanotech, fusion and fission and m-theory[?]…and that was just the first decade!...”

I bet m-theory stands for media, and no, I don't wanna look it up.

But I am curious as to how you think they'll bring it off. How do you think they'll engineer it to make it believable? Do you think it will be evil, malicious aliens of the 'Alien' type (aka 'reptilians')? Or more 'humanoid' type? What state would the peoples of the world have to be in to believe it? Do you think it would happen before or after some kind of financial collapse or Third World War, i.e. when we're in a general state of confusion?

God help us if Ronald Reagan's speech where he talked about mankind coming together in the face of an alien threat, was true - a for-real warning, another foreshadowing from the perps, like the PNAC.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6PhtrRAXzU
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Pretty sad when the awful exploiting business of porn is the most realistic "movie" nowadays. They don't usually try to engage you in a serious plot, other than how much time until everyone takes their clothes off. Although, they do a good job at brainwashing the audience that the activities portrayed in said video are fun, liked by everyone involved and take a REALLY long time to complete. This is not how it is in the real world. ;)
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