## Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

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### Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

It has come to our attention again and again that the numbers "11" and "33" as well as sequences like 9,11 and 4,4 and 7,7 appear in the news. It has also been made plain that certain astrological and gnostic and cabalistic or otherwise occult symbols make their way into the fake news as a matter of course.

What can we guess about the creative process of a "news story", its multiple purposes, its fabrication methods and so on, from what we have noticed about the news?

Intro

Let's try to construct a fake news story ourselves (hypothetically) and guess why and how these things are done, by reverse-engineering fake news story examples. This is simply a speculative exercise and is in no way meant to be an indication of a formula or a conspiratorial process that a single group uses (neither of which are likely if the practice is a widespread method of the world powers maintaining themselves). It is posted in the Living Room to spark conversation and try to get some clarity on the numbers. I feel this is necessary to partially offset the obsessive and outlandish "numerology" that has been occurring recently in the fakery discussion.

Useless Assumption: All words are numbers, all numbers are magic Please, get real!
For example, I could take any word and force it to be a magic number. Let's take the word "semiotics". 'Numerologically' (for fuck's sake, how has an intelligent bunch of people like those who look at the news skeptically actually allowed a word like this to be used without shame?). It is 19+5+13+9+15+20+9+3+19. It equals 112. Ooh, boogy-man. There's an 11 in there. Wow, it must have planned by the conspirators! Let's try another one. News. 14+5+23+19. It adds up to 61. 6+1 is 7. Oh god, there's a 7.

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I would like to completely throw out the assumptions or so-called "calculations" by would-be intelligent researchers on this subject. It is not necessary, fruitful or insightful about the method of propaganda's construction to pretend to be mathematicians by counting up numbers and letters to find secret magic within. It is borderline insane "Bible code" gibberish and it firmly belongs in the same category as the so-called Talmudic scholars who obsess over a secret 'negative' Hebrew that will reveal itself in their study of their holy books. If there is some spiritual component to it all we are missing, please enlighten us on another site. We don't need such David Icke sorts of things here. At nearly the singular place on the Internet focused on the deconstruction of the artificiality of the news — here, CluesForum — let us not ourselves start some fucking numerological cult. It is highly frustrating to find people proposing this is some kind of exposé of the human system responsible for the mad swirl of propaganda being flung at us. It is distracting from the human culprits choosing an evil path in life and placing some kind of supernatural wizard-like power at the forefront.

A court will not hold wizardry accountable. The law can prosecute criminal behavior. And sometimes, not always or even often, but sometimes, it works. And please let us try to make it work for us. It is our system, it is for us. Don't let our own cynicism convince us we have no power over our own lives. Please.

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Examples

So, Example One. On 9/11, we have the towers collapsing in 9 and 11 seconds respectively. We have the airplane tail numbers adding up to 11 (Flight 11), 12 (UA93, 9+3=12), 13 (175, 1+7+5=13) and 14 (Flight 77, 7+7=14). Is this a coincidence? Possibly. Is it magic? No. It is likely to have been simple planning. The reasonable question becomes: why should they make it apparent on some level that this has been planned? Terrorists are perhaps not as obsessed with numerology, officially, as the Yale boys clubs or Zionist pseudo-mystics. Yet, the numbers are there.

I think our best hunches about such things have given us the greatest explanations:

1. The numbers are there because the writers of the news are slightly insane and very obsessed with their system
2. The numbers remind distant people 'in the know' that direct communication between conspirators is not necessary
3. The numbers indicate to these 'in the know' some other information that isn't mystical but which serves as a sort of police code to announce on a global level instructions and hints about how to endorse, tell and support this story
~and finally~
4. The numbers are trumped up as mystical in popular media and popular conspiracy theories in order to throw off our assumptions about the truth of the first three reasons

Example Two. With the moon landing, for example, ignoring all other strange aspects of the story, we have men flying in a huge phallus to take a stiff American Flag to plant in the virgin 'soil' of the traditionally feminine moon goddess and collect 'moon rocks' as evidence of the conquered prey.

Do we need to assume there is some kind of magic at work with this feminine goddess? Must we assume that there has been a handshake with cackling demons or power-sharing elves or some kind of amazing entity revealed only to the enlightened elites? No! For goodness sakes, can we have some dignity about the stories we tell ourselves? These people do not have any more special access to the hidden powers of the universe than you or me. They are not wizards of special hidden knowledge, nor are they enlightened or enriched by their gold or their access to old ruins or scrolls or whatever. It is far more likely, in our argument, that:

1. These symbols exist to embolden each other and make themselves feel proud of their ill-gotten gains like antiques (both real and fabricated), skulls or relics of famous dead people, treasures and booty, stolen and scurried-away writings and information that isn't shared with the public
2. These symbols exist to communicate to one another their own familiar control over the myths as they are given evidence by their control of the relics and antiques and so on
3. These symbols exist to communicate both subliminal and sub-conscious psychological associations to the average person in order to force them to download the stories and myths the writers are so foolishly proud of controlling
4. These symbols embolden and reinforce the power structure that oppresses the masses so that those within a pyramid scheme are continually tempted to remain so
~and finally~
5. These symbols exist to encourage stories of all kinds that completely baffle and foil any attempt to realize the above real reasons for the stories
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

The Importance of Considering Cryptography When Studying Power

So what is the code and how does it work? What are the subliminal stories and how do they work? Ultimately, which arrangements of symbols and numbers and associations to relics make the communicated messages?

This is the kind of study that CluesForum research, NukeLies research, historical revisionists and others in the field of modern science point to. It is the subject of cryptology, which we need cryptographers and savants and so on for. It is not necessarily helpful to immediately apply the mysticism and magic stories that we are handed by popular media about space, magic, existence and so on (like Star Trek, Harry Potter or other such things). Instead, it may be more revealing about how our culture or system is broken if we treat the news as intercepted communication between the writers.

They know it will be intercepted. This is the reason for the meaning used as a mask, which we continually mistake and misinterpret for the intended meaning. In fact, they pride themselves on the fact that they can broadcast a 'secret message' across the world through every media channel and rest at ease knowing the code will be interpreted as a different language.

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A Playful Guess at How News Can Be Fabricated

So what can we assume is the real process for the construction of a PsyOp story, if it isn't a magic deal with the devil or true demonstration of power? I think, based on the assumptions above, we can speculate that it goes something like this:

Scene: somewhere at one of the many small places around the world where writers get together to 'relate to the public' better. (e.g.; a news station, a TV channel board room, an executive office, a church or cloister, etc.)
1. A problem with a previous story has reared its head and presented problems for the lie. (e.g.; the question of meteorites flying through the ISS and tearing it to shreds)
2. Explanation after explanation is fabricated based on previous truths, half-truths, holy books, myths and lies (e.g.; Meteorites are not that common. God protects the ISS thanks to His love of the United States and the prayer of millions. The ISS doesn't have much impact area. etc. etc.)
3. Power of the individual group over public opinion on its specialized subject is weighed (e.g.; in this case, the group is a telescope operation so they can claim to have witnessed meteorites specifically)
4. Creative brainstorm — how will it be spun? (e.g.; someone's child asked about Buzz Lightyear recently. Choice is made to spin ISS's narrow miss of a meteorite from a vaguely unrelated article about a proposed test for an exciting new space suit equipped with meteorite-busting lasers)
5. Compounding and encoding. This is the part where more Psy-Ops and myths are tied in, including the ones that the membership itself may have fallen for, the standard necessary cryptography is added to mask the reason for the story, determined above. This could be where distracting numbers are added, certain evocative phrases or poetry might be thrown in, where someone who is also the member of an unrelated group suggests they work in a side-story about a Psy-Op dear to their home group. (e.g.; they are gearing up for another shooting PsyOp to increase security spending and so there should be a bit in the article about the danger and ubiquity of personal lasers)
6. Send to supervisor for final changes. CEO of news station, or Public Relations chief of organization is a highly connected individual who meets with a 'super class' of people outside the organization they rule over. Perhaps a Religious sect, a Masonic group, etc. They are good at masking the importance of this organization in their life and yet they hold the crucial belief to hold such a high position, and that is the (rather psychotic) insistence on the need for manipulative rulers. They are able to safely wield this power over their group to 'fluff up' the semiotic details and encode the story in order to further obfuscate its meaning with folk myth sort of things that their group controls in the first place. (e.g.; a profiteering sort of broker who also just happens to have influence over the outcome of all games involving the Oakland Raiders knows his team is taking a well-disguised dive. He can work in a bit of nonsense in the story about an astronaut-sports connection and get superstitious sports followers to emotionally invest in the win, while his insiders he favors can bet on the opposite. They are actually told within the story itself who to bet on based on the allegory they are receiving within the ranks of his lodge 'level' or 'type' or some such. The unfavored lose, the favored pick up some extra cash.)
7. Order slavish sycophantic employees to deliver the story with any 'spin' they want since it will always be safely within the realm of deeply encoded meaning attached intricately to the series of myths and lies controlled by the 'super class' organization. Many of the story weavers believe themselves to be cynical and skeptical enough to take the story in a real direction but none of them realizes the very basis of the story is to merely exist and have any one of its false facets to be believed at all.

Conclusion

As you can imagine from even a ridiculous and cartoonish scenario like this, there is so much room for us as receivers of this story in a magazine, web site, TV show, movie or whatever to read into the deep secret occult meaning of the Oakland Raiders, the devilish God-defying ritual of activating lasers, the profound and deep meaning of the age of the astronaut, the year of the last meteor shower or the number of meteors per year passing through such-and-such scenario (11,000 perhaps?) and on and on.

But all of these ridiculous things are fantastical temptations to consider the story as valuable information of any kind other than that which has been unintentionally left out of necessity or accident. Assuredly, some stories — especially the strange little ones that have us scratching our heads — are 'firing blanks' so to speak. To make them seem significant or important when they are more likely just more intense blasts of 'the web of lies enforcement' power, they are given the numbers and symbols, but they don't hide much of a message for us to find. And my suspicion is that a lot of the seemingly bigger PsyOp stories could be just that, at least on some level. Perhaps some of them are only inflated for their distracting power and their ability to hold attention on the subjects of death and destruction. Perhaps large PsyOps are actually an indication that they are trying to buy time while huge money transactions occur, besides their need to cover up a significantly suspicious change like the disappearance of a celebrity from the public eye. (e.g.; John F. Kennedy, Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, et al)

In conclusion, I think that for us to assume we can decode any fake news story into its component parts and true significance by focusing on outlandish exciting things rather than the boring money and power and mythmaking (i.e. science, spirituality and history) that the stories mostly seem to serve ... is foolish and overlooking an opportunity for us to figure out how our societies actually function. If I am wrong and it's all a bunch of real voodoo and black magic, I am sorry for misleading you and I guess I am dumb for not believing in the dark wizard power of these fucking power-tripping old farts.

But I hope that you please consider my opinion, and have an at least equally convincing case for your own take on it.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

hoi.polloi wrote:Useless Assumption: All words are numbers, all numbers are magic Please, get real!
For example, I could take any word and force it to be a magic number. Let's take the word "semiotics". 'Numerologically' (for fuck's sake, how has an intelligent bunch of people like those who look at the news skeptically actually allowed a word like this to be used without shame?). It is 19+5+13+9+15+20+9+3+19. It equals 112. Ooh, boogy-man. There's an 11 in there. Wow, it must have planned by the conspirators! Let's try another one. News. 14+5+23+19. It adds up to 61. 6+1 is 7. Oh god, there's a 7.

Another excellent essay (if it's okay to describe it as that) from Hoi.

May I also add that there's another fundamental flaw to numerologically analysing every word in our lexicon. It supposes that everyday words have been cleverly crafted at some distant point in time to conceal these magic, significant numbers. However, the etymology (historical origins) of words surely exposes this thinking as patently false.

Let's take two examples seen today:

The proper noun "Robert". Numerologically, the letters (18+15+2+5+18+20 ) add up to 78 = 15 = 6. Satanic, or not? Let's look at the origin of the name "Robert". According to the dictionaries, the name stems from the Germanic Hrodebert. (which produces a completely different "numerological" output). Hrodebert means "bright fame". It is derived from the Germanic elements hrod "fame" and beraht "bright" (different numerology again). The Normans introduced this name to Britain, where it replaced the Old English cognate Hreodbeorht (another different numerology still).

http://www.behindthename.com/name/robert

So the name Robert is at least 1,000 years old; an era when you could spell your name (for the few who could even write) pretty much how you wanted; the name has Germanic origins (producing a different numerology) and it is derived from two separate German words which probably stretch back many more centuries. That's a long-in-the-making conspiracy!

Another one: the word "nuclear" (5+3+3+3+5+1+9 = 2+9 = 11 ). The insinuation here is that the Nuclear Hoax is belied by the "numerology" of the word itself. However, if we look again at the etymology, we find that "nuclear" dates back to the first half of the 19th century, long before the birth of "atomic physics". And its first documented use was not even in physics, but in biology / botany, "to describe something that pertains to the nucleus of a living cell. 1846, probably by influence of French nucléaire."

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nuclear
http://www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/nucl%C3%A9aire

Absolutely no relation then to the modern meaning of the word "nuclear" (as in bombs, as in power plants). So, either those early botanists who coined the word were pioneering numerological cabbalists, and in-on-the-plot that wouldn't unfold until they were long dead, or numerological analysis of the word "nuclear" is nothing but hot air; no useful indicator of anything.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

To play devil's advocate, it could be presumed that words are chosen rather than pre-fabbed a long time ago. But even there, I still find it to be something they would much more likely leave to chance and then celebrate after the fact, rather than spend time adding up numbers of words.

Is it possible some of the lower echelons actually believe in the black magic aspect and don't realize they are exposing themselves as moron followers of a belief system every bit as detached from reality as the simulation they foist upon the public? Masons do obsess about their allegory so. We don't need to delude ourselves as well as the perps have deluded themselves just because they are really into that nonsense. They might just be hiding their myths so much to avoid intelligent critique and reason.

I think you're right that etymology — the true study of words and their claimed origins — is something far more relevant to the interests of true and false history than the most absurd ways they have appropriated symbols into their outlandish rituals — some of which are probably meant for us to interpret as more mystically relevant or insightful to their planning methods than they actually are. They've certainly proven distracting enough.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

hoi.polloi wrote:It has come to our attention again and again that the numbers "11" and "33" as well as sequences like 9,11 and 4,4 and 7,7 appear in the news. It has also been made plain that certain astrological and gnostic and cabalistic or otherwise occult symbols make their way into the fake news as a matter of course {...}
edited, unnecessary repetition of hoi's post - brianv

You would think that the religion of Scientism alone would be enough but the fact they do still do attach occult symbols to major events and promote theosophical new age relativistic philosophy alongside gives credibility to your last points of 1 to 5. These guys are not stupid and know how to fool the vast majority of mankind. It is plausible (for example) that they may really know their models and theories are wrong regarding Heliocentricism, Evolution and Dinosaurs (a modern word) plus many other things are false or non proven such as AGW so just use the power of the "occult" ie fantasy, subliminal suggestion, deception, imagination, and Hollywood and Disney Magic etc to reinforce the paradigm. I find so-called Science to be the same or very similar to old age paganism just dressed up in a party frock for modern times and deceiving themselves that they are "enlightened"
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

As regards the use of these numbers in psy-ops, my principle suspicion is that they are simply a part of their religion and they use them because they believe the numbers add power to their efforts.

As an example of what I mean: A priest waves a cross over a dying parishioner, makes certain gestures and murmurs Latin phrases while wearing symbolic dress. All these objects and words are symbols believed to have power in and of themselves. They are believed to create some effect, to achieve something.

I think it is the same with the psy-op numbers.

Occult = religion. Whatever their exact beliefs are, they fall under the heading of religious belief.

They put the numbers in their hoaxes, I think, because they believe they hold some intrinsic power over the masses and therefore make the hoaxes more effective. The same goes for the Masonic symbols and references that are also put into the hoaxes (the twin towers as Solomic columns, for example).

To put it another way, they are “casting spells” on the masses and these numbers and symbols are an important (to them) part of that activity.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

I see what you mean. It could be. It could be they are hedging their bets on astrological Paganism while actually having beliefs closer to Satanism and practices like psychos. Or it could be they have a secret closely guarded set of beliefs which places all the other religions 'below' itself just as Abrahamic religions tend to do to one another. If that's true, and the powers of deception are involved in its main tenants, I wonder just what kind of religion is this which is capable of convincing so many? Is it just a religion which protects and nurtures nasty behavior?

Not to start an argument, but if that's the case and they really feel this way, and it's not merely something we are supposed to guess they feel, why do they treat the rituals without sanctimony or respect? Why does it come across as an enormous joke? Are we meant to believe they are mixing in their own beliefs with famous religions in order to create deliberate confusion? Is it to try to make their religion feel on the same level as the most popular ones in hopes of lending it power by proxy?

In the 9/11 news sim, they seem to have placed a number of religious references to the Tarot, the Bible, the Mahabharata, Satanic, New Age, Pagan beliefs and so on. Are people as cynical as all that really religious believers in all those various religions? Or is it more likely they are the types of people that invent some religions in the first place and who sardonically play with religious tendencies in others?
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

I don't know. It's not easy to guess what is in the minds of psychotics. These hoaxsters would have to be a pretty cynical, demented lot. I doubt they treat anything with respect, perhaps including their own rituals. Respect is something that the "stupid masses" are concerned with, not them. These occult types engage in some pretty disgusting (to us) activities so their values are not at all like most peoples'. I can see them laughing to themselves at how stupid the public is in buying their crap and perhaps this disdain may be what we perceive as cynicism or a joke, etc. in their hoaxes. I've known some "people in low places" and they often treated most everything as if it were a joke. They seemed to think it was foolish to take anything seriously. They are in a sort of gleeful and delusional disassociation with the world around them. What we think is destructive, they think is funny.

BTW, hoi, I think the 5 reasons you gave are perfectly valid. Different people do things for different reasons. The above post of mine is just what I think of first. It was meant as an addition to your list, not a replacement.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

I see what you mean. That seems to be a good argument, lux.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

The word Occult simply means Hidden, but strangely, many ascribe some voodooic value to it. The first spells cast by 'Wizards' were simply WORDS. Words that when put together caused fear in the receiver. For instance the wizard would write "If you don't pay tax to the king your soul will rot and your crops will fail and chickens will be scurvy". Sounds ridiculous I know, but to superstitious people who couldn't read or write - these were Spells. Words are SPELLED. These words caused anxiety, stress and fear, which as we know, is the prime cause of illness in the body. Illness causes death. So what happened when the populaces began to read and write? "This Spell is in Latin - we are fucked I tell ya. We'd better pay up". Then came the Numbers of course.

The best wizards, were those who could put words together in such a fashion which reaped the most income for the king - the Daily Merlin and such.

This was the beginnings of Statute Law - which is nothing but a bunch of words crafted in such a manner as to cause fear - and more often than not, a FINE is the penalty and the 'king' the recipient

So as for wackos in frocks spouting mumbo-jumbo in Latin over the dying, was to ensure that the poor fucker left his land to the church or the king or his soul would spend an eternity in hell. Words words words nothing else.

Magic : The art of turning superstition into coin.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

Evil Edna wrote:
hoi.polloi wrote:Useless Assumption: All words are numbers, all numbers are magic Please, get real!
For example, I could take any word and force it to be a magic number. Let's take the word "semiotics". 'Numerologically' (for fuck's sake, how has an intelligent bunch of people like those who look at the news skeptically actually allowed a word like this to be used without shame?). It is 19+5+13+9+15+20+9+3+19. It equals 112. Ooh, boogy-man. There's an 11 in there. Wow, it must have planned by the conspirators! Let's try another one. News. 14+5+23+19. It adds up to 61. 6+1 is 7. Oh god, there's a 7.

Another excellent essay (if it's okay to describe it as that) from Hoi.

May I also add that there's another fundamental flaw to numerologically analysing every word in our lexicon. It supposes that everyday words have been cleverly crafted at some distant point in time to conceal these magic, significant numbers. However, the etymology (historical origins) of words surely exposes this thinking as patently false.

Let's take two examples seen today:

The proper noun "Robert". Numerologically, the letters (18+15+2+5+18+20 ) add up to 78 = 15 = 6. Satanic, or not? Let's look at the origin of the name "Robert". According to the dictionaries, the name stems from the Germanic Hrodebert. (which produces a completely different "numerological" output). Hrodebert means "bright fame". It is derived from the Germanic elements hrod "fame" and beraht "bright" (different numerology again). The Normans introduced this name to Britain, where it replaced the Old English cognate Hreodbeorht (another different numerology still).

http://www.behindthename.com/name/robert

So the name Robert is at least 1,000 years old; an era when you could spell your name (for the few who could even write) pretty much how you wanted; the name has Germanic origins (producing a different numerology) and it is derived from two separate German words which probably stretch back many more centuries. That's a long-in-the-making conspiracy!

Another one: the word "nuclear" (5+3+3+3+5+1+9 = 2+9 = 11 ). The insinuation here is that the Nuclear Hoax is belied by the "numerology" of the word itself. However, if we look again at the etymology, we find that "nuclear" dates back to the first half of the 19th century, long before the birth of "atomic physics". And its first documented use was not even in physics, but in biology / botany, "to describe something that pertains to the nucleus of a living cell. 1846, probably by influence of French nucléaire."

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nuclear
http://www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/nucl%C3%A9aire

Absolutely no relation then to the modern meaning of the word "nuclear" (as in bombs, as in power plants). So, either those early botanists who coined the word were pioneering numerological cabbalists, and in-on-the-plot that wouldn't unfold until they were long dead, or numerological analysis of the word "nuclear" is nothing but hot air; no useful indicator of anything.

Not that I follow English gematria but you have your numbers wrong dear EE
There is a guy called Marty Leeds, very interesting and intelligent person IMHO who deals with this stuff and a proper number/letter relation supposedly looks like this

To add my 2 cents regarding occult numbers, gestures, etc. present in the psyops, music clips, movies etc. It's just a way of the "elite" to communicate to us that they follow esoteric religion and we the sheeple fall for exoteric bullshit eg. guy in the sky, Egyptian slavery, 12 appostles and whatnot. They do not actually hide anything because as the old maxim goes all is in the plain sight for "these who have eyes to see and ears to hear". So when a pop star hides one eye or flashes "as above so below sign" and the MSM sell 9/11 as a "terrorist attack" they in reality say to us that it's all bullshit and we have to read between the lines and stay vigilant. If we use our eyes to see and ears to hear of course, if not ... "let the one who may be deceived be deceived".
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

"[...] writing is seen as an authoritative means of communication, from legal documentation, law and the media all produced through the medium." (See my previous post!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_writing

The Message is the Medium. In other words it doesn't matter what's on the written document, the fact that it's written is where the power is. The container is more important than the content. TELEVISION. NEWSPAPERS.

Occult, Gematria, Religion, Freemasonry etc, is pure horseshit and a waste of time discussing, and I'm sure hoi didn't intend his excellent post to become the starting whistle for a discussion of such garbage.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

bostonterrierowner wrote:So when a pop star hides one eye or flashes "as above so below sign" and the MSM sell 9/11 as a "terrorist attack" they in reality say to us that it's all bullshit and we have to read between the lines and stay vigilant.

I hope you are being sarcastic. No, they are not communicating to us that it's bullshit. If they were, they would outright communicate that in the same way they blatantly spell out every idiotic news story in melodramatic detail. If anything, they are hinting at something, but not communicating clearly about what it is they are trying to say. It is not our legal responsibility to decipher an elusive liar beyond that which is natural. It is their legal and moral responsibility not to be fucking liars broadcasting bullshit to the world in the first place.

If a child sprinkles cookie crumbs in the yard where nobody will see them and ants will eventually scurry them away, but he rubs his crumb-less fingers together in the presence of his parents who don't know what he is doing, is he admitting he stole a cookie? That's quite a stretch, in my opinion.

It's more like the child is just getting off on the fact that he put one over on people, not "admitting" or "showing" jack, even if he is telling himself that it means public admission in his private fantasy world. I am embarrassed how many people have stumbled on this kind of research, then bought into the idea that it's totally our fault they lie. At best, we share fault in constructing or endorsing this system we live in. But to try to claim their idea that they give people fair warning is sympathetic with the psychotic maniacs running the hoaxes. Not true empathy about all of us caught up in the situation. And it doesn't discipline our leaders who need it most.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

I agree that they are not trying to communicate with us. I believe their efforts are solely focused on creating certain effects on the general public which support their aims of control, etc.

And, evidence of these beliefs are visible in their work in the form of numbers, symbols, etc. and, I think, these things are probably an integral part of their perceived methods of control. Fortunately for us, these religious trappings also serve as "fingerprints" of their work and help us detect when they have had a hand in something.
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### Re: Numbers and Semiotics in the News: Why?

lux wrote: Fortunately for us, these religious trappings also serve as "fingerprints" of their work and help us detect when they have had a hand in something.

"Fingerprints" is the most accurate word that I would use to describe the vexing recurrence of numerological 'clues' in the context of the silly psyops that we keep tearing apart here, day after day. We could probably discuss forever the deeper whys and whats of these mind-numbing games being thrown at us - and quite naturally (as human nature is inherently - and fortunately - marked by diversity), each one of us will reach a different conclusion as to their exact meaning and scope. One could rightly say that we (the people) are - 'socially speaking' - a dreadfully incoherent lot.

The thing is, we are up against a 'ruling class' made up of a bunch of psychologically unsound / twisted / debauched individuals. Yet, it is a remarkably cohesive 'tribe' of social misfits which thrives due to its very cohesion. Therefore, before we attempt to psycho-analyze these odd, obnoxious creatures infesting our planet, we should probably start by psycho-analyzing ourselves - so as to pinpoint the exact reasons why the vast majority of this planet's population is unable to exert power by numbers.

The question is: how can we all be 'outnumbered' - on this global chessboard - by a mere handful of foxy players?
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