by ogrady on November 20th, 2009, 4:16 am
Came to this thread a bit late in the day. Always enjoy studying the moon landing hoax.
Wanted to thank excised for the link to the Jay Weidner analysis of The Shining. I've enjoyed a lot of the material linking Kubrick (one of my favorites) to the Apollo hoax.
nonhocapito wrote:Much more interesting (and, I admit, difficult) would be trying to find a language that really reaches everyone. Instead of spending half the podcast interviewing one user on why she uses a certain nickname, continuing polemics with trolls, take on discussions for "insiders" left over months or years back, commenting minor passages in the research that have a place in a skype private conference, better energy could be spend in focusing on few simplified, clarified discoveries that a thread made (1, 2 of them would be enough in one podcast), making readable and understandable the lingo we use, or relate to the things that inspired us originally to get into this.
Bottom line, it seems really odd and counter-intuitive to associate a podcast to the research on media fakery. Such research needs images and videos to reach a wider public. There is a reason why Simon made a movie called September Clues, and why that worked. Words are often a burden to images, which never as in this case "speak louder than words".
nonhocapito wrote:One last point (not as important, but still worth mentioning): the Moon Hoax podcast briefly mentions the conversion of the forum from RealityShack to Cluesforum saying that "we converted the forum" and "we made mistakes in doing it" as we "didn't know php so much". Being the one person who was responsible for that conversion, having put into that a considerable amount of energy and man hours, having been back then the one person on the forum who actually understood some of that programming language, I can say that this is not an accurate description of the events. That conversion "with mistakes" (which in the largest part I corrected one by one in front of the computer afterwards) was the only possible technical solution at hand and the alternative would have been to sit on the RealityShack forum in the hands of censors and dubious administrators to this day (Dubious administrators and contributors such as DDuck and OzzyBinOswald that I believe I first push out of their characters until they imploded. -- or I am remembering incorrectly?) I say this not for the spite of not having been mentioned! but for the feeling of history-rewriting in place that this reconstruction of the events gave me.
nonhocapito wrote:I never really felt any "camaraderie", and this was a good thing, too, since this would have meant being a comrade to OzzyBin or Fred...
nonhocapito wrote:As to the comparison with Alex Jones I made it because 1) the "radio"/"podcast" format he started with was not genuine but a trick to pretend he was "grassroots" and not an agent; here the choice of a podcast appears to me similarly unnecessary and demonstrative, although I'm sure for different reasons; more importantly 2) as with the Alex Jones format the conversations doesn't seem to be really centered on the idea of an open debate with unpredictable differences and outcomes, which it should be if the aim is to "reach out".
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