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On this site you'll find a photo of a Syrian passport. Take a good look at it! Handy in case there is a major terrorist attack in your town in the near future. Among all the mangled bodies and devastation you may come across such a pristine document and then you'll know exactly what it is: a Syrian passport. http://www.voltairenet.org/article189338.html
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Rudy Algera wrote:On this site you'll find a photo of a Syrian passport. Take a good look at it! Handy in case there is a major terrorist attack in your town in the near future. Among all the mangled bodies and devastation you may come across such a pristine document and then you'll know exactly what it is: a Syrian passport. http://www.voltairenet.org/article189338.html
It reminds me of an article I read shortly after 9-3LEVEN:
Strange Case Of The Black Box And The Indestructible Passport
By Sam Yousef – 09-21-2001

All four Black Boxes were supposedly destroyed and rendered unusable in spite of the fact that they are designed specifically for plane crashes which result in insurmountable conditions...yet one of the hijackers passports supposedly survives fire and heat of over 1,000 degrees fahrenheit and is found in perfect shape in the rubble around the WTC towers? What kind of idiots does the FBI take us for?
http://rense.com/general13/strangecase.htm
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"Casualty-simulation and faking" - all in a nurses life... <_<

https://youtu.be/tyeESYPJ9Fg?t=356

Hat tip to my pen pal Peter
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I wanted to start a new topic on this but it looks like I don't have permissions to do that yet. I'll post this here as I think it's an interesting issue just emerging in the news and may be the start of a new trend.

Porn and the Victimization of the Female Porn Star

Since most of the people on this forum recognize that nearly everything "mainstream" is under strict control, you may wonder why porn is allowed to be a multi-billion dollar industry in the USA.

It has been recognized as far back as the 18th century the power that pornography has over the male mind.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140807064 ... -guccione/
Porn is indispensable to our ‘freedoms’, which despots ‘hate’. Sound familiar? De Sade explains further:

Lycurgus and Solon, fully convinced that immodesty’s results are to keep the citizen in the immoral state indispensable to the mechanics of republican government, obliged girls to exhibit themselves naked at the theater. [Footnote: It has been said the intention of these legislators was, by dulling the passion men experienced for a naked girl, to render more active the one men sometimes experience for their own sex. These sages caused to be shown that for which they wanted there to be disgust, and to be hidden what they thought inclined to inspire sweeter desires; in either case, did they not strive after the objective we have just mentioned? One sees that they sensed the need of immorality in republican matters.] Rome imitated the example: at the games of Flora they danced naked; the greater par of pagan mysteries were celebrated thus; among some peoples, nudity even passed for a virtue.

De Sade was a bit confused with his sources, the lawgiving he’s talking about comes from Philemon, who is quoted in Athenaeus, Deipnosophists XIII: Concerning Women, 25, which you can read here. Philemon does not say the same thing de Sade says; Philemon does say that women displayed naked and prostituted help the state by burning off young men’s excess energy. In other words, omnipresent sex keeps men passive.

Perhaps the CIA does feel pornography is a matter of national security: after all, we don’t want all those under- and unemployed young men thinking about government corruption…
Knowing this, it's interesting that Playboy and Penthouse came into the USA's conscious around the same time, and perhaps even less surprising, it's "spooky" connections to the Intelligence Community.
Robert Guccione set up Penthouse in direct ‘competition’ with Playboy; Penthouse took a more explicit ‘hard-core’ angle, going as far as to feature fetish stuff like urination and ‘facials’. The magazine has a knack for getting nude photos of women ‘before they’re famous’, such as Madonna and Vanessa Williams, and has even exploited underage girls, like Traci Lords.

Penthouse was first published in England, not America, and gave CIA asset Seymour Hersh a platform to ‘leak’ a handful of government scandals. (Presumably clearing them with William Colby first!) Guccione has been lauded by such venerable institutions as Brandeis University for his reporting through Penthouse.

Guccione also gave American Vogue editor, Anna Wintour, her start in publishing– because of her innate ability? Probably not: Anna’s father was the editor of London’s Evening Standard, so Guccione’s help was likely a business favor to her old man. Never the less, Anna has given unflinching support to America’s current Commander-In-Chief. Also money well spent?
https://web.archive.org/web/20150405112 ... y-mansion/
By 1973, the Playboy Empire was even more thoroughly entrenched in the mafia. In Alfred McCoy’s book The Politics of Heroin (1991), he mentions how Hefner’s name came up during an IRS investigation into a CIA front bank:

In 1973 agents of the Internal Revenue Service were able to photograph the Castle Bank’s customer list while a bank executive dined in a posh Key Biscayne restaurant with a woman described as an IRS “informant”. Reviewing the purloined documents, IRS investigators found that the 308 Castle Bank customers on the list had moved $250 million to foreign numbered accounts. Depositors included Playboy publisher Hugh Hefner, Penthouse magazine publisher Robert Guccione, and some major organized crime figures– Morris Dalitz, Morris Kleinman, and Samuel A. Tucker. Elated by the find, investigators formed Project Haven to make “the single biggest tax-evasion strike in IRS history.” Suddenly, the IRS announced that it was dropping the investigation because of “legal problems.” According to a later investigation by the Wall Street Journal, “pressure from the Central Intelligence Agency… caused the Justice Department to drop what could have been the biggest tax evasion case of all time.” The CIA invoked “national security” since it was using the Castle Bank “for the funding of clandestine operations against Cuba and for other covert intelligence operations directed at countries in Latin American and the Far East.”
Needless to say, TPTB have been in bed with the porn industry for decades.

As the Feminist movement has been growing, and men have become "betas" as the Manosphere likes to say, there has been one last bastion where male dominance over women is socially accepted. And that's in the bedroom. Women love their hair pulling and neck choking as much as men like doing it to them. It's a place where women can come home from a long day of bossing men around to just bend over and let her guy do whatever he wants to her.

In porn this goes to the next level. The "facial" is the status quo. The blowjob is a requirement. Pleasing the guy is the prerequisite. And after the guy has finished up, the girl is discarded for the next nameless pretty young thing.

Why has this been allowed to continue I have wondered? I knew the control that porn addiction has over the "potential revolutionaries" crowd, but how have they allowed the male dominance to continue unchecked with everything else going on. They've already smeared the PUA community with the Santa Barbara fakery.

It was only a matter of time.

James Deen, porn’s ‘feminist’ sweetheart, accused of sexual assault

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/art ... l-assault/
Arguably the most popular male star in adult film, Deen is now fighting to restore his name after he was publicly accused by an ex-girlfriend this weekend of raping her – a claim that was soon followed by similar accusations from two other adult film stars, effectively upending one of the most carefully crafted images in a formerly underground industry whose biggest stars are now reaching for mainstream fame.
Yesterday, the biggest male porn star in the business was accused of sexual assault by his ex-girlfriend on Twitter, and several more accusations immediately followed.

He's not your typical big buff porn star either. This guy has hordes of female fans.
If you haven’t been paying attention to the porn industry lately, it’s important to understand that Deen is not your stereotypical star: Over his 11-year career, Deen has emerged as the unlikely darling of the industry – the kind of slender, sensitive guy you’d expect to see in a boy band rather than a kinky X-rated film. His boy-next-door vibe and pro-feminist persona helped him capture the attention and imaginations of women of all ages, and launched him before a wider audience: He starred alongside Lindsay Lohan in Paul Schrader’s 2013 film “The Canyons,” frequently shared his thoughts on consent and diversity in porn with popular media outlets, and authored a sex-positive advice column for a progressive women’s lifestyle website.
Check out the Twitter post that launched a 1,000 ships. Why does this remind me of Hannibel Burress?
Stoya @stoya
That thing where you log in to the internet for a second and see people idolizing the guy who raped you as a feminist. That thing sucks.
2:29 PM - 28 Nov 2015
Joanna Angel ✔ @JoannaAngel
He’s dead on the inside and dead to me . He’s literally the worst person I’ve ever met . That’s all I’ll say for now #solidaritywithstoya
1:16 PM - 29 Nov 2015
#solidaritywithstoya huh? That's a mighty big word for a pornstar. Not #JamesDeenRapist, not #SpeakOut. No, nothing like the kind of stuff that you come up with off the top of your head. And as a very casual fan of porn, who the hell is Stoya?

Then came the other accusations.
After Stoya’s Twitter revelation, the situation spiraled quickly. Within hours, Twitter users had flooded the #SolidaritywithStoya hashtag with messages of support for Stoya. On Sunday, adult film star Tori Lux alleged in an essay for The Daily Beast that Deen had also assaulted her on a film set. And on Monday morning, porn star Ashley Fires added her voice to the chorus, telling The Daily Beast that Deen assaulted and “almost raped” her on-set, and later instructed her to “stop telling people” about what happened.
How convenient. Reminds me of the 10 women who filed lawsuits against Charlie Sheen within 24 hours of his HIV+ announcement.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/charlie-s ... v-lawsuit/

Speaking of which, let's trot out some more female porn star victims.

Bree Olson Reacts to Charlie Sheen's HIV Diagnosis: 'He's a Monster'

http://www.etonline.com/news/176283_bre ... a_monster/
“I could be dead right now,” the 30-year-old former adult film star told Inside Edition after Sheen confirmed reports that he was HIV positive on the Today show on Tuesday. “It was like playing Russian Roulette, that’s the best way to put it. It was like he was putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger each time.”
Last I saw Bree Olson, she was dressed as Daphne, getting it on with Fred and Shaggy. How the times have changed.

I smell a trend here. Anybody else? Get ready to see a whole lot of "FemDom" on Redtube over the next few years.
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fbenario wrote:
tokyojoe1 wrote:I'm particularly interested in helping expose professional sports as the fakery it is. Not "refs are fixing games", but complete WWF style fakery involving players and coaches.Welcome.

I'm also quite interested in how much sports are faked/controlled/scripted, and would love to read whatever evidence you're already uncovered.
Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

I submit the following evidence to the court of CluesForum!

1) Note (from0:44-0:50) the bent corner of the envelope David Stern selected (and subsequently straightened). And just like that, Georgetown’s premiere center went to the big rotten apple!

The fixed 1985 NBA lottery

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y


2) Here’s a textbook example of refs (aka 'the third team') favoring David Stern’s chosen team:


Kings Lakers Game 6 Mixtape *RIGGED* 2002

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo


3) Speaking of Vince McMahon’s WWE, I think the following clip borders on predictive programming.


WWF NWO & 911 Predictive Programming (Nine Eleven Plot)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ep9sIdP-v4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ep9sIdP-v4


BTW, The World Wildlife Fund (WWF) legally forced Vince to change his company's name to WWE.

In closing, over the last decade or so, the media has used American Football and Soccer head injuries as a pretext to advance/legitimize neuro(pseudo)science. I’ll elaborate on that in a different bat-thread, at a different bat-time.
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ICfreely wrote:
fbenario wrote:
tokyojoe1 wrote:I'm particularly interested in helping expose professional sports as the fakery it is. Not "refs are fixing games", but complete WWF style fakery involving players and coaches.Welcome.

I'm also quite interested in how much sports are faked/controlled/scripted, and would love to read whatever evidence you're already uncovered.
Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

I submit the following evidence to the court of CluesForum!

1) Note (from0:44-0:50) the bent corner of the envelope David Stern selected (and subsequently straightened). And just like that, Georgetown’s premiere center went to the big rotten apple!

The fixed 1985 NBA lottery

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y
I'd argue that every draft lottery in every sport is fixed.

This year in the NHL there were two generational draft prospects in Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel. McDavid is the best prospect in 10 years and draws comparisons to Gretzky. Guess who won the lottery? Gretzky's Edmonton Oilers who have four #1 overall picks in the last 6 years. What a nice narrative.

Or how about the NBA where the Cleveland Cavaliers won the draft lottery to get Andrew Wiggins despite having the lowest odds of all the lottery teams. What a coincidence that Lebron James decides to join the Cavaliers a few weeks later. To distract everybody from this obvious fix, everyone went gaga over a 19 year old girl who showed up to the draft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7wMBbvjebc
In closing, over the last decade or so, the media has used American Football and Soccer head injuries as a pretext to advance/legitimize neuro(pseudo)science. I’ll elaborate on that in a different bat-thread, at a different bat-time.
Would love to read about this. I've been wondering why CTE has been the news since it is so destructive to the NFL.
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ADMIN NOTICE:
Sorry folks - but no thanks: I am not going to allow or encourage new threads on this forum dealing with sports fakery / lottery fraud / or porn industry trivia. If you really feel the need to address such matters, you can do it here in the chatbox from time to time. I honestly don't think these matters are of general interest to our wider, international readership - nor do I think they belong in this forum. Besides, I only have so much time to moderate this place - and I dread the thought of having to read through posts tackling the afore-mentioned topics which, quite frankly, make me yawn. You wouldn't want me to fall asleep, would you? <_<

Thanks for your kind comprehension.
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Simon,
I know I am new here but I could not disagree with you more.

The NFL alone is a multi-billion dollar industry that completely infiltrates the lives of nearly every American on Sunday afternoon and Monday night. Millions of people have invested thousands and thousands of dollars and hours of their lives into a league that might be completely scripted. To expose professional sports as fakery would affect the reality of millions of men equally as much as learning that nobody died on 9/11. Their entire lives have been built on it being real. Father-son relationships are built on it. Half the time they spend on the internet is built on it. The morale of entire cities is built on a team's winning or losing legacy, including my own original hometown that is considered a "loser city" around the country due to it's poor sports performance. An ENTIRE CITY's morale is based on the losing record of it's sports teams that might be completely fake. That is not something yawn-worthy IMO. That is a mindf*ck of the highest proportions.

To top it off, this sports ritual is used as a platform for psy-ops on the American public during the broadcast and commercial breaks where they push agendas such as the betaization of the male, alcohol consumption, gambling, pharmaceuticals, and overall brainless consumerism. Sports is the cornerstone of a large percentage of the TV psy-ops done today, not to mention the Super Bowl. Exposing it would do a lot to discredit these scam artists.

And what I posted about the porn industry is hardly trivia. Nearly every male in the Western world watches pornography including probably most on this forum, hell even the shills watch porn. A porn psy-op would affect men on a very deep and private level. Exposing pornography as a government tool is of great importance IMO. Making men submissive in the bedroom may have a greater psychological effect on the public than half the fake media events combined.
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tokyojoe1 wrote:Simon,
I know I am new here but I could not disagree with you more.

The NFL alone is a multi-billion dollar industry that completely infiltrates the lives of nearly every American on Sunday afternoon and Monday night. Millions of people have invested thousands and thousands of dollars and hours of their lives into a league that might be completely scripted. To expose professional sports as fakery would affect the reality of millions of men equally as much as learning that nobody died on 9/11.
Well, I can somewhat appreciate that, since I live in Italy where soccer literally zombifies a huge proportion of this country's population. Also, as a teenager and early twenties, I was myself a 'victim' of sports-fascination (namely, motor racing - one of the silliest sports of all) what with my pea-brained elder brother dragging me into the circus - as he tried (and failed) to become a rich & famous racing driver... The thing is, only thinking about sports (and the years of my early adult life wasted 'in its name') brings me an itch in my brain.

Anyhow, we actually do have a thread about sports fakery already - so feel free to enrich its contents :
FAKERY IN SPORTS : http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1692

As for rigged lotteries and the rampant sexual / pornographic mind-conditioning - I simply don't feel the need for such things to be debated on this forum, what with our international readership of (hopefully) long-awakened people to the pathetic shams / plagues that they both are.
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simonshack wrote:
tokyojoe1 wrote:Simon,
I know I am new here but I could not disagree with you more.

The NFL alone is a multi-billion dollar industry that completely infiltrates the lives of nearly every American on Sunday afternoon and Monday night. Millions of people have invested thousands and thousands of dollars and hours of their lives into a league that might be completely scripted. To expose professional sports as fakery would affect the reality of millions of men equally as much as learning that nobody died on 9/11.
Well, I can somewhat appreciate that, since I live in Italy where soccer literally zombifies a huge proportion of this country's population. Also, as a teenager and early twenties, I was myself a 'victim' of sports-fascination (namely, motor racing - one of the silliest sports of all) what with my pea-brained elder brother dragging me into the circus - as he tried (and failed) to become a rich & famous racing driver... The thing is, only thinking about sports (and the years of my early adult life wasted 'in its name') brings me an itch in my brain.

Anyhow, we actually do have a thread about sports fakery already - so feel free to enrich its contents :
FAKERY IN SPORTS : http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1692

As for rigged lotteries and the rampant sexual / pornographic mind-conditioning - I simply don't feel the need for such things to be debated on this forum, what with our international readership of (hopefully) long-awakened people to the pathetic shams / plagues that they both are.
Fair enough. I appreciate you being open-minded about it. I'll post in the sports thread from now on.
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Reports of at Least 20 Victims Amid Active Shooting Incident in San Bernardino: Police

http://ktla.com/2015/12/02/authorities- ... fire-dept/
There were initial reports of at least 20 victims down amid an active shooter incident at a center for people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino late Wednesday morning, according to a police official.

The call first came in at 10:59 a.m. of multiple shots fired from the area of 1365 S. Waterman Ave., San Bernardino Police Department Lt. Richard Lawhead said. The department’s SWAT team was training nearby and was suited, “ready to roll” and responded rapidly, Lawhead said.

There were reports of at least 20 victims, Lawhead initially told KTLA. In a separate interview, the lieutenant confirmed there were multiple victims.
Nothing but helicopter shots so far on the live streams. The link above has a live stream. Forgive me if this has already been posted.
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This image was thrown in the mix just for me.
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fox5atlanta.com San Bernardino event
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simonshack wrote:
As for rigged lotteries and the rampant sexual / pornographic mind-conditioning - I simply don't feel the need for such things to be debated on this forum, what with our international readership of (hopefully) long-awakened people to the pathetic shams / plagues that they both are.
I have to say thank you for not letting this forum slide on a tangent toward filth, or subjects that would necessarily engender the discussion of filth.
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"14 Dead in San Bernardino, CA Shooting; Police Involved in Gun Battle Near Scene"
Here we go again:
At the time of the shooting, police officers were involved in a training activity nearby and were able to respond to the scene quickly, according to FOX News.
:rolleyes:
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/55238753-story
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Hours before San Bernardino shooting, doctors urged Congress to lift ban on gun violence research
:wacko:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... -research/
On Wednesday, a group of 110 U.S. representatives made the latest push to get the CDC back in the game. The effort, spearheaded by U.S. Rep. David Price (D-N.C.), calls on House leaders “to reject short-sighted and unnecessary riders that freeze gun violence research.A letter written by Price points out that while solutions to gun violence might be debated, “we should all be able to agree that our response should be informed by sound scientific evidence.”The letter is signed by 110 of the 188 Democrat House members. No Republicans signed on.
Price said the letter represents a long-held frustration. “It’s been stuck in our throat a long time, this absurd prohibition,” Price said in an interview.
Now, after a recent rash of mass shootings and with Congress debating a potential budget agreement, Price hopes the timing is right to rethink this position.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... -research/
Indeed, Price-less timing! :P
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