brianv wrote:I guess my "vaffanculo" won't cut it then!
simonshack wrote:corsarino wrote:@nonhocapito
what about a drink at Le Bain BAR Via delle Botteghe Oscure, 33?
Hehe - I'll be joining you if Nonho can make it. Do you mind?
nonhocapito wrote:To talk about "faith in freedom" (or liberty, as the two words overlap in italian) referring to a guy who just died in captivity sounds almost as a mockery to me.[/u] Or should we rather think at the masonic meaning of "Liberty"...?
simonshack wrote:I'm sure you know about the meaning of 'the goat' ("Baphomet")- in masonic circles. So what exactly is this figure we see here, oddly stuck onto some corrugate aluminum construction shielding?
corsarino wrote:Sogno? Cefis? Sogno + Cefis ?
Actually i don't known.
nonhocapito wrote:simonshack wrote:corsarino wrote:@nonhocapito
Dear corsarino & Simon, I do hope this date will happen, I just don't know when as I'm busy most of the summer working... Plus no money... but we'll see, who knows.
corsarino wrote:The Moro Kidnapping was a psy-op.
First point: propagate the fear for the Reds (RB, le Botteghe Oscure) and the arms coming for East (the Skorpion machine-pistole).
Second point: Create a willing for a stronger State, deleting all individualism.
Third point: Destroy the motivation for a national govern (DC + PCI) and increase the separation between the two main parties.
Fourth point: Cancel the political image of Moro
There was no desire to kill Moro.
p.s. The Italian State TV filmed Via Caetani from the "Santa Lucia Fiippini" buiilding.
bostonterrierowner wrote:Archbishop Angelo Amato was in charge of 2010 beatification mass of priest Polpieluszko kidnapped and murdered by secret police commando in 1984 . I am open to a possibility that it was a PsyOp as well. Media attention in communist Poland given to this event was huge which is very very surprising because Popieluszko was only one of supposedly 100 murders of priests during 1981-1989 period. Popieluszko's funeral was a vast anti -commy event still peaceful , and made the whole "revolution" quicker . Now it looks to me as a stage in a controlled demolition. Why media attention ?
4 Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa officers were arrested and sentenced to long time jail time in a widely televised trial because priest's driver , by mirracle jumped off the car going 100 km/h and spoiled the beans It was later acknowledged on manistream media that Waldemar Chrostowski was an SB's asset . 1984 ,a year it all took place was still a Marschall Law period and its naive to think that somebody could have spoiled the beans through the media , let alone jumped off the car going 100 km/h and escaped on feet. Popieluszko's body was put in a trunk and later thrown into the artificial lake near the dam on Vistula river . Picture of dead popieluszko's body in a trunk was so widely rooted in people's minds that even a bad taste expression was coined " travelling in a car Popieluszko's way" meaning being thrown in a trunk I strongly suspect it was a PsyOp , very remarkable one and as powerful for polish minds as Moro's for the Italians. Why did I mention bishop Angela Amato? Amato was one of the priests offering himself to RB in Aldo Moro's stead .
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