While I don't wish to be a vehicle for hate and bigotry, I can't help but find this write up sobering, regarding the liars and scam artists involved in promoting Holocaust mythology:Holocaust Howlers
by Ken Meyercord
http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/arch ... owlers.php
Recently, the heartrending tales of a 95-year-old Pennsylvanian named Joseph Hirt were revealed to be a hoax. Hirt claimed to have been kidnapped by the Nazis and confined in Auschwitz. He illustrated his talks to high school audiences with a photo of an emaciated concentration camp inmate he claimed to be himself. A knowledgeable teacher recognized the photo as one of an inmate of the Dachau concentration camp and exposed other holes in Hirt’s story. When confronted with his lies, Hirt said “I'm sick and I'm tired and I'm old and I don't need this crap." In a comical unintended evocation of the slanderous Holocaust-denier charge, Hirt’s nephew said of his uncle, “He's in complete denial.”1 The blurring of memory with delusion is not uncommon amongst Holocaust survivors, and not just nonagenarians.
Many of the outlandish tales embellishing the Holocaust story are roll-on-the-floor, side-splitting howlers. It may seem in extremely poor taste to poke fun at aspects of the Holocaust story, as I’m about to do, but if you find it so, don’t blame me. Blame those who have appended farcical chapters to what is, at heart, a truly tragic story.
We begin with the Holocaust-denial laws so popular in Europe, which make it illegal to question the orthodox storyline. Leading the inquisition is, not surprisingly, Germany, which has fined and/or imprisoned dozens, if not hundreds, of heretics. As one wag put it, “Today’s leaders of Germany want to prove they’re not the sort of Germans who lock people up for writing books by locking people up for writing books.” And what do the German authorities do with the books written by convicted Holocaust deniers? They burn them (Welcome to the Dark Ages!).2
But the Oscar for Best Comedy in Heresy Suppression goes to France, whose Holocaust denial law makes it a crime to contradict the findings of the Nuremberg tribunal. At Nuremberg it was claimed that soap was made from the fat of Jewish corpses, but Peter Black, senior historian at the United States Holocaust Memorial and Museum, says “It didn’t happen…. even experimentally.”3 He’d better not say that in Gay Paree or he could be accused of contradicting what Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone called a “high-grade lynching party”4 and end up in jail.
Many people find the jailhouse confessions of German prisoners proof of the veracity of the Holocaust story. But consider the confession of a German soldier, Arno Düre, who told Soviet prosecutors he had helped bury thousands of Poles executed in the Katyn Forest Massacre. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russians, who blamed the massacre on the Germans at Nuremberg, admitted they were the guilty party. No German, including Herr Düre, was anywhere near.5 Many similar confessions by higher-ranking Nazis have proven equally counterfactual.6
Not content with only coerced confessions to justify hanging Nazis, the liberators of the Dachau concentration camp decided to create some physical evidence: they built a gas chamber of their own. Presented as a real gas chamber to tourists for years (and introduced into evidence as such at Nuremberg), the Dachau Museum later informed visitors no one was ever gassed there.7 Less truthfully, they didn’t go on to explain why it’s impossible for anyone to have been gassed in the showcase gas chamber.
The Dachau “gas chamber” is a room with a seven-foot-high ceiling in which are embedded fake, sheet metal showerheads. Here’s a photo of it:8
Unfortunately for the fabricators, a congressional delegation visited Dachau just two days after its liberation and they reported the room as having a ceiling ten-feet high protruding from which were real brass showerheads.9 In other words, a room like this one (which is, in fact, the shower room at Dachau at liberation):10
Looks like somebody built themselves a gas chamber, doesn’t it, only it wasn’t the Germans!
But what about the testimony of those who claim to have witnessed gassings, you ask? Well, consider that for years a man named Martin Zaidenstadt, who claimed to be a survivor of Dachau, regaled gullible tourists with tales of his having witnessed gassings at the camp.11 Keep Mr. Zaidenstadt in mind whenever you hear eyewitness accounts, such as the one about children being thrown on top once all the floor space in the gas chamber had been filled by adults (featured on the website of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum),12 or the one about the condemned being given a “nice haircut” just prior to being led into the gas chamber (featured in the acclaimed 1985 movie Shoah),13 or the one about a young girl repeatedly swallowing the family jewels hidden in the hem of her skirt whenever she feared she was about to be searched, then digging them out of her poop and sewing them back in (in the video archives of Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation [“Shoah” is another term for the Holocaust]).14
Then there’s Misha Defonseca, who claimed to have run into the woods to escape the Nazis and been raised by wolves. Who would believe such nonsense? Answer: lots of people. The Romulus and Remus-inspired tale, recounted in her book Misha, received wide acclaim (including an encomium from Elie Wiesel), was translated into 18 languages, and earned her millions (“There’s no business like Shoah business”) before it was exposed as a fraud.15 The capper: Ms. Defonseca isn’t even Jewish!
Other frauds perpetrated on an unsuspecting public include Jerzy Kosinski’s The Painted Bird, a bestseller of the 1960s also lauded by Wiesel;16 Fragments, by Binjamin Wilkomirski, which won the Jewish National Book Award (not bad for a Gentile!);17 and Angel at the Fence by Herman Rosenblat, which was hailed by Oprah Winfrey as “the single greatest love story in 22 years of doing this show.”18 It all goes to show how uncritically Holocaust stories are accepted out of respect for the real victims, except by callous souls who find humor in human credulity (moi?).
Then there’s the testimony which is inexplicably absent. When Winston Churchill heard during the war that the Germans had killed 1.7 million people in gas chambers, he labelled it “the greatest and most horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world.”19 But in his voluminous memoir of the war years he fails to mention any gas chambers. Did “the greatest and most horrible crime” in human history slip his mind, even when the final tally was said to be four times greater than what he had heard? Or, with the liberation of the camps, did he realize the story was a myth, which he assumed would someday be exposed (silly boy!), and he didn’t want to be seen by history as having been duped. Nor does Eisenhower or De Gaulle mention gas chambers in their memoirs of the war. Even Elie Wiesel, the P.T. Barnum of Holocaust huckstering, makes no mention of gas chambers in his tone-setting Night, which chronicles his time spent in Auschwitz.
Not far from Steven Spielberg’s video trove of black comedy in Los Angeles is the Museum of Tolerance, founded by Simon Wiesenthal. Several years back a well-versed revisionist, David Cole, heard that amongst the museum’s displays was a film purportedly showing Jewish kids being herded into a gassing van by grim-faced, rifle-toting Nazis. Cole contends that no such homicidal vans existed (and, in fact, none has ever been found), so he was curious where Wiesenthal had found the contradicting footage. Through some diligent research, he found the obscure, fictional movie made in Poland from which the scene was purloined. Further research led to the Polish producer, who was incensed to learn the museum was showing his work without paying him a cent in royalties.20 I suspect the museum is no longer showing that bit of “documentary” evidence.
Some attempts at finding physical evidence to back up the Holocaust story have proven equally farcical. For instance, there’s the case of the Operation Reinhardt camps – Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec. Supposedly, hundreds of thousands of Jews were gassed and buried in mass graves, later disinterred and cremated in these camps (of which nothing remained but empty fields at war’s end). Revisionists say “no way.” They contend these “death” camps were actually transit camps, in which Jews being deported to areas occupied by the Germans in eastern Europe were processed. Who’s right could be proven quite simply by taking core samples to determine if the subsoil has been disturbed, i.e., pits were dug for burying the bodies. If pits, then death camps; no pits, then transit camps. But the Jewish authorities won’t allow this simple test to resolve one of history’s great mysteries to be performed.21 They did, however, allow an archeologist to do some digging at Treblinka. She dug a pit about four feet by six feet using the best archeological methods, expecting to find bones, teeth, ashes, and the like. She got down a couple of feet without finding anything; then “Eureka!”, she struck pay dirt: a tooth!... a SHARK’S tooth.22 So much for the archeological evidence!
One consequence of the history of the Second World War being reduced to little more than a carnival House of Horrors is that even true believers get duped. An Israeli group called “March of the Living,” which takes young Jews on tours of Auschwitz - traumatizing them for life with the grimmest of fairy tales - includes in their promotional material this photo of a pile of smoldering corpses:23
The tour organizers must have assumed any pile of dead bodies from the war era must be Jews. In fact, the photo is of Germans killed in the Allied firebombing of Dresden in April 1945.24
Similarly, when Phil Donahue had two prominent revisionists on his popular talk show in 1994 (if only such could happen today on network television!), he used photos of the fake gas chamber at Dachau to counter the revisionists’ claim that there were no gas chambers. Donahue became so flustered when this was pointed out to him by one of the revisionists, he revealed he didn’t even know if the photos were of Dachau.25
I’m sick of laughing at the farcical version of the Holocaust story. It’s time that tragic event was given the honest, factual remembrance it deserves and to stop imprisoning those who seek to tell the true story. It’s time to turn this tragicomedy into a bona fide history lesson.
Anyone who says people should be jailed for pointing out these simple anecdotes must be considered a rather fascist individual themselves, no? I think the sentence near the top sums up draconian laws rather well.
“Today’s leaders of Germany want to prove they’re not the sort of Germans who lock people up for writing books by locking people up for writing books.”
After some reflection on the latest episode of The Clues Chronicle
, where we began to read the first page of this thread, and then after reading several articles going back and forth about whom was killing whom during World War II, I can't help but reflect that some of this story will forever remain a mystery. And yet, the truth does show up rather boldly if you just do a little surface scraping on the propaganda.
What comes out, it seems, is that even so-called "Holocaust Deniers" say that a million Jewish people might have been killed during the whole of "World War II" because the Germans were waging an ethnic nationalist war. That really doesn't seem like the symbolic crime it is made out to be by believers of the post-war myth; the Germans were certainly not saints and it's obvious that some people are like jumpy64 and perhaps would very much like to use
these Holocaust facts to justify unwise racist beliefs, but the whole purpose of this forum is to explore how propaganda by psychopathic types exposes the human race to wars.
I think there is a kind of "faith-based" belief that when we can "mature" out of the need for wars, we will inherently stop believing the propaganda in the first place. This site may or may not be evidence for that or the contrary; despite people loving peace, propaganda convinces them of the need for war.
There have been some really stupid mistakes in the investigations of the so called Holocaust (like the apparently bad lab tests of so-called "death chambers" done by Fred Leuchter and the messy associated trial), in investigations of 9/11 (A&E for 911 truth, for example) and so forth. What this really shows, to me, is that the human race excels at making ourselves believe in elaborate myths, but we're really quite bad at criticizing them scientifically. We could attempt to draw some connection about how scientific folks are consistently tempted to join the ranks of the largest ruling mob, but that's not quite it either. There are plenty of scientists shunned by the gang at the top, and it could be their (or more likely, a general sort of human) meekness which explains their different behaviors when "accepted" by the mainstream and when they are denied tenure, acceptance or what have you.
The main point regarding this thread should be that if readers agree with research exposing propaganda methods are accused of "holocaust denial" it seems it is an attempt, like being called "flat earthists" or "conspiracy theorists", of discredit by association (and conversely, credit by disassociation for the book burners). And as such, by merely taking on the rather mild position of saying Jews were persecuted just as much as any other enemy in a war is persecuted, one is meant to be considered an outlandish racist extremist.
We should be quite proud of being skeptical of all forms of propaganda, as it does help us attempt as a species to get to the bottom of what exactly is going on. If we take the conservative Swiss estimate of a "mere" several hundred thousand Jews losing their lives to this war, which seems about as believable as the "about one million" number even after reading several view points on the subject, it should still far exceed our threshold for the concept of "peace". A war took place. There was war.
But what exactly war is, and how it appears in our world, is muddied by the strange conclusions of people saying the 6-million figure is some kind of undeniable fact, when it's anything but. Helping people understand the propaganda of "peace time" (maybe more accurately called imperial propaganda of a predatory State) should prove very instructive about the much more confusing and horrific situation of being faced with propaganda of "war time" (when propaganda is pitted against propaganda in a bid for the hearts and minds of the public.) It's not the same, and we should all be aware of the difference if we are to avoid being seduced into a war time.
The propagandists responsible for the Patriot Act type legislation and "anti-Holocaust denial" legislation and so on ought to be held responsible for crimes against humanity. France and Germany have some serious soul searching to do in regards to their criminally insane laws against intellect.
Free speech is a precious value that all countries should aspire to. Not just Japan, Iceland, the UK, the USA and the Netherlands — if those can be considered as free as purported. [/soapbox]