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Successful Nazis

Postby SimonJCP on February 16th, 2010, 1:38 am

hoi.polloi 4 Feb 15 2010, 06:31 AM wrote:Powerful research, Tsu!


And it's common knowledge that NASA was born out of the remnants of Nazi Germany.



I want to hear more about this. I understand the United States hired a lot of Nazis after WWII and offered them political freedom. I also understand there may have been some disturbing "overlap" between the time before the Nazis were "defeated" and after the war. In other words, there may have been some downright orchestration going on when it comes to how certain inhuman experiments were released to the public under the guise of "war crimes" by "evil bad guys" when - in theory - the war was used as a convenient cover for scientific collaboration between several countries as they experimented on the populace.

Do you think it could be discussed in another thread, though?


Thanks, Hoi!

A "Nazi" thread is a great idea. A lot can be discussed there, including the visible connections between the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the Paperclip Nazis. It's arguable that the Nazi element was a very significant one:

-The CIA was a central part of the assassination operation, and it had Nazis taken into the US to work against the Soviet Union. At the time of the Kennedy assassination, there were many Nazis working inside the Agency. One of these Nazis was Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's intelligence chief over Russia, who created the BND, which became the CIA's siamese twin in fighting the Soviets.
http://www.amazon.com/Farewell-Justice- ... 133&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Plausible-Denial- ... 1560250488

-Allen Dulles, who power behind the Warren Commission, was fired by Kennedy, was tied to every suspect, and orchestrated the Bay of Pigs, was the mastermind of Paperclip and a lawyer for both Standard Oil and IG Farben (Nazi war machine).
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7n_sF3P ... 22&f=false
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/show ... 3&id2=4180

-Oswald was a CIA operative in Russia part of the "Fake-Defectors"/"Infiltration-Of-Russia" program, which was handled by Reinhard Gehlen, a Paperclip Nazi who was Hitler's intelligence chief over Russia.
http://www.nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/ji ... sparks.MP3

-As a radar operator, Oswald was stationed at the CIA's clandestine air base in Atsugi, Japan (A site where MKULTRA experiments were conducted). Atsugi housed a training camp run by Reinhard Gehlen and his group of Paperclip Nazis.
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brusse ... ssass.html

-Jack Ruby's lawyer, Melvin Belli (Who would later represent Sirhan Sirhan), was the estate lawyer of Hermann Goering's widow. He also protected the family interests of Errol Flynn, who had collaborated with the Gestapo.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/misc/melvin-belli/

-John J. McCloy was on the Warren Commission. If Dulles was the real chief of the Warren Commission (Which he was), then McCloy was his second-in-command. "I never saw a case that was more completely proven," he said of the Commission's conclusions. McCloy shared a box with Adolf Hitler at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. He was in contact with Nazi leader Rudolph Hess. McCloy blocked executions of Nazi war criminals, commuted their sentences, and allowed them early releases during the Nuremberg Trials, when he was assistant secretary at the War Department. During the war, he refused to have Nazi concentration camps bombed. Klaus Barbie, a Gestapo war criminal, was shielded by McCloy. Chase Manhattan Bank had been a huge supporter of the Nazis -- From 1953 to 1960, McCloy was Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank. He was also, like Dulles, a lawyer for IG Farben of the Nazi war machine.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... topic=8552
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7n_sF3P ... on&f=false

-George de Mohrenschildt was Oswald's best friend in Dallas. During World War II, he was identified as a Nazi intelligence agent. His uncle distributed Nazi propaganda films and his cousin was connected to the Nazis. Despite the fact that Hoover's FBI had identified Oswald as a Nazi agent, the Warren Commission discussed de Mohrenschildt, but did not address his Nazi links. This is especially strange, since Hoover's FBI was aware of the ties between this man and the Nazis.
http://www.ctrl.org/essay2/NCTJFKA.html
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo ... cademo.htm

-J. Edgar Hoover was in charge of the field investigation of the assassination. Hoover was friendly with the Nazis at Interpol, the international secret police. Hoover maintained a supportive and friendly relationship with the Nazis until the very last minute (Days before Pearl Harbor), a change of heart that appeared to have more to do with his concern for his public image. After the war, Hoover became Vice President of Interpol -- it refused to go after Nazi war criminals. In the 1970s, Interpol's President became Paul Dickopf, a former Nazi SS officer.
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brusse ... ssass.html

-Lee Harvey Oswald's pro-Castro leaflets were marked with the address "544 Camp St." -- this was the side entrance of the building that housed the detective offices of W. Guy Banister, a former Naval Intelligence agent and FBI chief who now worked as a CIA operative in helping to prepare for anti-Castro operations/raids. He had a training camp for anti-Castro guerillas in New Orleans. According to a number of witnesses, Oswald was present in his office and David Ferrie, widely regarded as Oswald's mentor and as a participant in the plot, "practically lived" at his office, according to a number of witnesses, including Banister's secretary/mistress (Delphine Roberts) and his private investigator (A military-intelligence veteran and CIA operative named Jack Martin). Banister was an important conspirator, and was one of Oswald's handlers -- he helped him develop a pro-Castro image. Now, for the Nazi connection: Banister was the chief of the Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean, a section of the World Anti-Communist League, created by Charles Willoughby, a Major General in the US Army. Willoughby was a fascist who received awards from the Mussolini government. He spoke passionately in favor of Spanish fascist dictator and Nazi ally Franco. Willoughby maintained close, friendly, supportive ties to Nazi allies all over the world. He even spoke with a German accent.
http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Assassins-J ... 0446362778
http://spitfirelist.com/anti-fascist-ar ... ague-pt-2/
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brusse ... ssass.html

-Justo Valerio Borghese, the "money-man" of the Italian fascists, was rescued from execution by James J. Angleton. Angleton supervised Oswald's movements, was a key figure in the cover-up, and was instrumental in molding the Agency-approved "conspiracy theory" -- that Oswald shot Kennedy as part of a Communist conspiracy.
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl ... f%26sa%3DG

-Clay L. Shaw was the director of the International Trade Mart of New Orleans, as well as a clandestine CIA agent. Jim Garrison charged him with involvement in the Kennedy assassination. He denied even knowing Oswald or his mentor, David Ferrie -- a number of witnesses swore under oath that during the voter registration drive in Clinton, Louisiana, a black cadillac pulled up and out came Oswald, who stood in the line to register. The driver of the car was identified by these witnesses as Clay Shaw, while the man in the passenger seat was identified as David Ferrie. On another occasion, a witness named Vern Bundy saw Oswald at the lakefront -- a black car pulled up and out came Shaw, who handed him what looked like a roll of money. Perry Russo and Charles Spiesel both saw Ferrie, Oswald, and Shaw together -- in both cases, they discussed plans to murder JFK. Now, for the Nazi connection: Shaw was a close friend of Hjalmar Schacht, father-in-law of Otto Skorenzy, a Nazi officer who led operations for the Nazis during the war, and was unrepentant after the war. Shaw participated in Operation Paperclip (The operation that brought the Nazis over). Alternative Italian papers reported that Shaw had a history as a CIA man who had attempted to revive fascism in Italy. He belonged to Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC), which controlled his International Trade Mart -- CMC was a consortium of Italian fascists, the paramilitary right of Europe, and DOD/CIA. Shaw was on CMC's board, as well as the board of Permindex -- both companies had intimate links to the Nazis.
http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Assassins-J ... 0446362778
http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Fred%20Crisman.htm

-Much of the evidence against Lee Oswald came from Ruth and Michael Paine. The Paines got Oswald the job at the Book Depository. Paine provided a garage for Oswald's possessions. In her garage were the "Backyard Photo" forgeries. Ruth Paine's mother was the mistress of Allen Dulles, mastermind of Paperclip and a lawyer for IG Farben (Nazi war machine). Michael Paine was employed by Bell Helicopter, where his immediate superior was General Walter Dornberger, a Nazi military scientist who was brought into the US as part of Paperclip.
http://www.mail-archive.com/political-r ... 10247.html

-When Oswald went to Mexico City, his bus companion was Albert Osborne, who used the alias John Howard Bowen. Since 1934, Osborne had run a school for marksmen in Mexico. He was an identified fascist who opposed American involvement in WWII. He had run a camp for boys called the Campfire Council -- neighbors complained this was a front for pro-Nazi/Fascist activities. Osborne had connections to Centro Mondiale Commerciale.
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brusse ... ssass.html

-Mikhail Lebedev wrote Treason For My Daily Bread, in which he claims that Martin Bormann moved to Paraguay and paid an agent, code-named "Zed", to shoot Kennedy. The murder weapon was a .45, and "Zed" was positioned in the storm sewer on Elm. Interestingly, a .45 slug was found in Dealey Plaza after the assassination. The man who found it was Buddy Walthers, a Dallas cop. Walthers was sent to a motel room to question Walter Cherry, an escaped convict and double murder suspect. Cherry shot Walthers dead. Walthers had been sent on this dangerous mission by the Sheriff, who had ordered all deputies to stand down on the day of the assassination.
http://www.amazon.com/Treason-daily-Mik ... 0905589009

-When Garrison was staking out Ferrie's apartment (Ferrie was Oswald's mentor), he found that he was frequently visited by Dante Marachini. Marachini lived at 1309 Dauphine Street -- next door was Clay Shaw's home. Also listed at that address was James Lewallen, who had once shared an apartment with David Ferrie, and who claimed that he, Shaw, and Ferrie all had sexual relations with one another. Marachini worked at Reily Coffee company at the same time as Oswald. He had begun work there at the exact same day Oswald did, and left several weeks after Oswald did. He went to work for the Chrysler Aerospace Division at NASA. Everyone who had a connection to Oswald at Reily Coffee had left the company -- Alfred Claude, who hired Oswald, had left the company to work for the Chrysler Division at NASA. Emmett Barbie, Oswald's immediate boss at Reily, had left the company to start a career with NASA. John Branyon, who worked with Oswald at the company, had left to work for NASA. What about Lewallen? Well, he went to work for Boeing out at - you guessed it - NASA! This is significant in regards to a Nazi connection, because NASA was, at this time, completely under Nazi control.
http://www.maebrussell.com/Garrison/On% ... ssins.html
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Postby hoi.polloi on February 16th, 2010, 3:28 am


-John J. McCloy was on the Warren Commission. If Dulles was the real chief of the Warren Commission (Which he was), then McCloy was his second-in-command. "I never saw a case that was more completely proven," he said of the Commission's conclusions. McCloy shared a box with Adolf Hitler at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. He was in contact with Nazi leader Rudolph Hess. McCloy blocked executions of Nazi war criminals, commuted their sentences, and allowed them early releases during the Nuremberg Trials, when he was assistant secretary at the War Department. During the war, he refused to have Nazi concentration camps bombed. Klaus Barbie, a Gestapo war criminal, was shielded by McCloy. Chase Manhattan Bank had been a huge supporter of the Nazis -- From 1953 to 1960, McCloy was Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank. He was also, like Dulles, a lawyer for IG Farben of the Nazi war machine.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... topic=8552
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7n_sF3P ... on&f=false




Grr! This deserves Fred-style bolds:

Chase Manhattan Bank was a supporter of the Nazis that got away with all this?

And apparently Chase Manhattan Bank was also responsible for getting their start through the practice of rum production and slavery of the first shipments of African slaves to the Americas. When is this Morgan bank going to get in trouble for any of this?

Suspected crimes so far include: devastating foreign countries and putting us into a debt beyond all wealth with unknown and untold African tribes, connections to those with foreknowledge of the assassination of JFK, financing the Nazis and whatever was real or unreal about the holocaust, and contributing to the 9/11 lie of "terroristic extremist brown guys" - the largest psy-op dealt to the American people.

So ..... they're just happily operating with or without a sample of the billions of dollars of bailout money?

(cough)

Sorry, but people who claim that "conspiracy" (better known as crimes against humanity) is an unrealistic phenomenon of human dynamics should take a look at what this JP Morgan and Chase company group has willfully enabled - without so much as a sniff from a police dog.
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Postby SimonJCP on February 18th, 2010, 5:02 am

Chase Manhattan Bank was a supporter of the Nazis that got away with all this?



http://sonic.net/~doretk/Issues/00-12%2 ... seman.html
The Rockefeller family's Chase Manhattan Bank has as its motto, "Chase: The right relationship." As Chase is on the verge of buying J.P. Morgan and becoming the world's richest bank, it might be timely to explore a bit of the history behind that slogan. Chase Bank actively supported the most viciously racist regime in world history, Nazi Germany's Third Reich. Unlike many other banks which also have done business with murderous regimes, Chase's involvement was much more than just a business arrangement. Morgan Bank has a similar history of closely working with Hitler and advocating Nazism both before and throughout WWII.

RCA is apparently connected to Chase:


Chase was primarily a wholesale bank, dealing with other prominent financial institutions and major corporate clients, such as General Electric, which had, through its RCA affiliate, leased prominent space and become a crucial first tenant of Rockefeller Center, rescuing that major project in 1930. The bank also is closely associated with and has financed the oil industry, having longstanding connections with its board of directors to the successor companies of Standard Oil, especially ExxonMobil, which are also Rockefeller holdings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_%28b ... ional_Bank



Radio Corporation of America (RCA) was a significant component of the Military-Industrial Complex. It was headed by retired US General who oversaw the creation of Radio Free Europe, which is now a CIA/Military propaganda operation. Until it was taken over by General Electric (Which, itself, is a defense contractor that financed the Nazi regime), it owned NBC.

At the time when it had control over NBC, the news station tried as hard as possible to rip apart the JFK Assassination probe launched by Jim Garrison of New Orleans. Interestingly, the investigation had, at that point, resulted in the arrest of Clay L. Shaw. Shaw was involved in the Paperclip operation as an OSS agent, as well as covert pro-fascist CIA activities in post-WWII Italy. He was a close friend of Nazi Otto Skorenzy's father-in-law, and was a director of Centro Mondiale Commercial and Permindex, both creatures of the intelligence community and both linked closely to Nazi/Fascist elements. In charging Clay Shaw, Garrison was dancing with Permindex/CMC and the Nazi underground.


On June 19, 1967, Walter Sheridan produced an NEC-’investigation’ into Garrison’s case.
NEC said that a Garrison witness had lied under oath and Frank McGee claimed two
witnesses had failed polygraph tests. Garrison decided to call these people before a grand
jury, saying that, if true, he would resign as D.A. One was convicted for perjury, two were
held in contempt of court, Sheridan skipped town and Phelan, the master plotter, failed to
arrive. With NEC violently attacking Garrison, it seemed Garrison’s allegations might have
been correct that the military-industrial complex was behind the assassination: NEC’s parent
company was Radio Corporation of America, one of the biggest Defense contractors


http://www.philipcoppens.com/tina_a4.pdf
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Postby hoi.polloi on February 18th, 2010, 5:37 am

Here is an interesting story. I wonder how much truth is in it:


The men responsible for initiating and executing the confiscation of Nazi and Japanese treasury gold represent the most senior Intelligence officers in the U.S. and Britain at the end of World War II, and the Cabinet of the President of the United States. The financial institutions represented by these individuals would become the major financial banks in the world, along with the Swiss-German banks where they hid their gold.

Lansdale's operation in the Philippines gave birth to most of the common features of modern covert operations for the U.S.Intelligence and initiated a bond between the US intelligence organizations and the Israeli intelligence. He also set precedents for the Intelligence community to retain the services of organized crime on U.S. soil and to use drug running as a way of financing activities,

The covert operations funded by the Black Eagle Trust in the 1960s and 1970s became visible stains on the global image of the U.S. despite all efforts to keep them under cover. In an effort to clean house, President Jimmy Carter would order the retirement of over 800 covert operatives. Many of these operatives would move into private consulting and security firms and be employed as subcontractors for covert operations. Thus began a loose association of private operatives that would be referred to as 'the Enterprise' in the years to come. George H.W. Bush, having been CIA Director, had many acquaintances in this group, and would work with them to restore their influence and control over U.S. foreign policy and the foreign investment opportunities it created for their benefit.

Meantime Ferdinand Marcos, the pro-U.S. dictator of the Philippines, continued to discover even more of the buried treasure. and had started to sell it on the market during the 1970s with the assistance of Adnan Khashoggi. US Intelligence operations had been siphoning off the gold for three decades. However in 1986 Vice President George Bush took over the gold from Marcos and the gold was removed to a series of banks, notably Citibank, Chase Manhattan, Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation, UBS and Banker's Trust, and held in a depository in Kloten Switzerland. What happened to the Marcos gold after it was confiscated by U.S. agents in 1986 has never been reported, but throughout the early 1990s, the world gold market would be befuddled by the mysterious appearance of thousands of tonnes of gold which appeared to suppress the price of gold.



- http://www.doeda.com/y911.html

It's apparently from these "people" - possibly friendly insider(s) hiding behind multiple weird IDs?:
"Dick Eastman" - http://www.rebelnews.org/component/cont ... icle/11559
"Tom Flocco" - http://www.tomflocco.com/
"V.K. Durham" - http://www.theantechamber.net/index.htm
"Karl Schwarz" - http://www.karlschwarz.com (which brings me to a Skype page for some reason)

These "entities" have all teamed up to represent an "E.P. Heidner" apparently trying to report on huge banking crimes, specifically related to the Nazis, 9/11 and the cold war.

Maybe if it's got some legitimacy, it's a deeply embedded person slogging through the BS to give us some insight into how things are working behind the scenes.

If so, anything that turns out to be true is appreciated. Would "E.P.Heidner" be willing to sign up on this site in any capacity and reveal more?
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Postby fbenario on February 19th, 2010, 3:44 am

Hoi,


I don't have a link to any info or evidence for this story.

VERY coincidentally, I heard this from an ex-U.S military intelligence officer (who was fired with NO notice the day before the 2000 election) at the same time MartinL heard it from some unidentified 'whistle-blower'. Neither Martin nor I have any way to confirm the accuracy of any of it, I don't believe.

When Ferdinand Marcos was deposed in 1986, 400 million of his money held at UBS Bank in Switzerland was seized by the US government - and left at the bank. The US then used these 'hidden' funds to finance 3rd-world 'adventures' over the next 15 years - and more 'seized' assets were added to the account, making for a total in 2001, after compound growth, of many, many trillions.

Supposedly 7 trillion was suddenly moved into the US in the days prior to 9/11, whereupon the US Treasury Department 'discovered' it sitting, unexplained, among other assets. A meeting was called at the Pentagon for the morning of 9/11 for 14 Treasury officers to discuss the 'found' trillions with the military. For obvious reasons 'they' didn't want this to come to light, or be investigated, because all of the money is obviously tainted, and also because our favorite bad guys wanted to steal it for themselves.

(You may remember I told you at some point that, while the fake "attack" on NY seems in some ways elegant and beautiful, the Pentagon and Pennsylvania fake attacks seem poorly planned, very poorly covered-up, almost as if they were bolted onto the existing NY 9/11 plan at the last minute. 'They' haven't even bothered producing any 'amateur' video footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.)

Apparently, the decision was made immediately before 9/11, possibly as late as the day before, to kill these 14 Treasury officials under cover of the NY attack. So the poorly conceived 'attack' on the Pentagon was added to the NY 'attack', in a very inelegant and not-beautiful manner.

If any part of this is true, the additional 'problem' that 9/11 now had was 'too many' trillions, not 2.3 missing trillions (which might have just been disinfo). It would also lead us to conclude there might actually have been a couple of dozen deaths at the Pentagon on 9/11 - although that concept in no way invalidates any portion of the Vicsim analysis or conclusions.

We have no names of the Treasury officials and no way to prove whether any of this actually happened - but it certainly doesn't immediately fail my smell test, since it explains to me why the Pentagon 'attack' was so poorly done compared to NY.

My source, in the week after telling me this information (and coincidentally also after Martin's source told him), started receiving very odd phone calls from Dept. Of Homeland Security. One reason he told me this at all is because he thinks the more people who know, the less chance they kill him.



I have no idea whether the source who told me this odd story understands there were no planes, no hijackers, no Muslims, and no victims on 9/11.
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Postby MartinL on February 19th, 2010, 12:22 pm

In case people haven't been through this:

Anthony C Sutton, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6468273/Antho ... -of-Hitler
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Postby godzilla on February 24th, 2010, 7:35 pm

Great stuff SimonJCP. I've been sharing and linking your Nazi research postings. Will there be more?

Also, can you direct me to a reliable source for the founding and history of Mossad. What powers created it and what is the nature of its past and current links to other intelligence agencies? Or perhaps you might be willing to put something together on Mossad if you have such research available in your files?

Thanks B)
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." - Henry Kissinger
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Postby MartinL on February 24th, 2010, 8:36 pm

I have come to believe that WW2 went something like this:

National Socialism vs. International Socialism (probably completely staged, since nazies and communists worked together in the beginning of the war, before Soviet changed sides)

A war to take over the world. The international socialists "won" and their crimes were covered up. More than 60 million killed by Soviet communism based on Karl Marx and Engels teachings. Today we hear only about Nazism and the Jewish Holocaust, but nothing about the 7 million ukrainians who were starved to death between 1932-1933 (or any other "communist" atrocities for that matter).

"The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust." - Karl Marx

I'll try to formulate a more coherent post later. Its connected to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFUxMwA1w

Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

peace


on a sidenote, is it not their M.O. to promote their fake events aggressively while keeping hidden their real agenda and their real crimes?



"Documents reveal Italian dictator Mussolini got start in politics in 1917 with help of ?100 weekly wage from MI5"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oc ... -mi5-italy

While in Switzerland, he (Mussolini) also met some of the Russian political exiles living there, including the Marxist Angelica Balabanoff, and the Marxist Vladimir Lenin. During this time he joined the Marxist Socialist movement.

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/musso.html

"Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" - Mussolini
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Postby SimonJCP on March 9th, 2010, 4:56 am

Lord Baden-Powell offered Hitler Youth hand of friendship
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/br ... 5838462256

Declassified MI5 documents reveal close ties between the Boy Scouts and Nazi Germany. The founder of Boy Scouts was invited to meet Hitler, and held regular meetings with Nazis about strengthening ties between his organization (Boy Scouts) and the Hitler Youth. Specifically, he met with Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German Ambassador to the Court of St. James, who was hung at Nuremberg for war crimes. He also met with Hartmann Lauterbacher, who headed the Hitler Youth.

Interestingly, Boy Scouts are now being trained to participate in counter-terrorism and homeland/fatherland security:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14 ... .html?_r=1

The current President of the Boy Scouts of America served on the board of Creighton University, the Jesuit institution of Nebraska. Jesuit/Vatican support/control in Nazi Germany is well-documented, as is their involvement in controlling Freemasonry and, well, the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotts ... ty_service

One of the three founders of the Boy Scouts of America is a confirmed Freemason.
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Postby antipodean on March 9th, 2010, 6:14 am

MartinL @ Feb 24 2010, 08:36 PM wrote: I have come to believe that WW2 went something like this:

National Socialism vs. International Socialism (probably completely staged, since nazies and communists worked together in the beginning of the war, before Soviet changed sides)









I think it ended up being a conflict between Zionists and the Vatican.
As well as Italy, Spain was obviously allied to Nazi Germany along with Croatia.

Predominantly Catholic Spanish speaking South America was to be used as an instrument to invade the US.


Moreover, the idea of creating a "Latin American bloc" against the United States, as opposed to a "pan-American" alliance with America, is the standing synarchist policy of the Nazis. In a confidential U.S. intelligence report entitled "Argentina: A Summary of Nazi Activity," dated Aug. 13, 1941, the propaganda technique used in Argentina and elsewhere in Latin America by the Nazi-controlled Spanish Falange is described as "a strong drive for the creation of a Latin-American bloc which, while allowing each country to retain its individuality, would unify the foreign policy of the Southern Continent and provide a sure protection against Yankee imperialism. This drive links up in turn with the Hispanidad movement, formally inaugurated by Spain and Portugal, but obviously directed by Germany."




http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3029cristero.html
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Postby hoi.polloi on March 9th, 2010, 3:17 pm

One thing that has almost consistently shocked me when I come across it - such that I was in denial of it for a long time - was the extreme levels of arrogance promoted in the general population of Germany (as well as Italy and Japan and the USA to name just a few) about the horrors of being certain ethnicities.

"Slap a Jap" in the states, etc.

Within each of these vilifying arenas of thought is a ring-leader or two or three starting ugly rumors that the talk-show lackeys and other talking heads rattle on like bobble-head dolls. However, if you pay attention to the sound of the media as a whole, these rumors tend to get pushed specifically during "action" periods - such as when the Nazis wanted to move into Poland, or the USA wanted to enter Afghanistan, etc.

So when the dust settles and we get into Iran or China or wherever the USA is going to try to get next, where do these people go?

A friend of Simon Shack's found an interesting pamphlet from Italy's second-most-recent fascist period (the first being approached now, apparently) regarding the "superiority of the Italian physique" and it was a bizarre read. But more interesting still, the name attached to the article seemed patently false, and it was immediately adjacent to a really quite excellent article exposing the criminal world banking system and its simulations (though of course it did not use the word <simulation>, it just used the word <lie> or even <hoax>.)

Where am I going with all this?

It is primal to the criminals that arrogance is ultimately always coupled with any motion to improve life so that it can be turned arrogant again. What are commonly regarded as "world war II" or the "cold war" and the "peace" periods in between are really part and parcel of the same ongoing phenomenon packaged and repackaged in countless ways: the mass prejudicing of a large group of people, and when one group of prejudice is tried and tested enough, it is thrust by the media creators - in the form of a "war" or "police action" or what-have-you - in the direction they wish?

In other words, is our constant battle against these so-called Nazis and Jesuits also a form of prejudice that is used to direct our actions in hysterical numbers?

Now, Tsu's research is bar-none some of the most interesting history I've ever read. And it fits perfectly within the traditions of Empire's various forms of mass hysteria - the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, et cetera.

Yet, when there is a common enemy drawn up - there is also a common hero. So I am waiting for some head to come along and declare themselves the 'anti-Jesuits' or .... let's say ... the "New Boston Tea Party" or some other crowd ... when in truth what it seems we are after above all else is not a neo-Nazi or a Heathen or a drug dealer or any other David Bowie costume. It's those who would create any singular, centralized culture that doesn't include adequate wariness of arrogant attitudes about itself.

This, I think, is why the Mafia and the Bush gangs and intelligence crowd followers of these gangs who are getting a cut of their profits, are so secretive. Because they are human. And if they are exposed and humiliated like any arrogant human would be in a scandal, they lose the arrogance and auto-superiority that enables their culture to perform horrendous crimes. This would also explain why they play specifically in the blind spots, and why they wave their glyphs and symbols in our face in those blind spots - because they have to emphasize to themselves that they are laughably "unnoticed" and particularly even when they flail. It also explains why paranoids pick up on their antics more than non-paranoids because flinchy people tend to envy this arrogant power and if people believe they are powerful, then they continue to feel powerful.

All this has been said before, but I want to relate it back to this Nazi thread and why I think it matters that we find out who these people are and were. Pinpointing someone as a "Jesuit" or "Nazi" and/or especially a self-proclaimed, illusive one, is not necessarily a bad indicator. It's like someone calling themselves a "Jedi" - it comes with unique power trips.
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Postby fbenario on March 10th, 2010, 3:02 am

hoi.polloi 4 Mar 9 2010, 09:17 AM wrote:One thing that has almost consistently shocked me when I come across it - such that I was in denial of it for a long time - was the extreme levels of arrogance promoted in the general population of Germany (as well as Italy and Japan and the USA to name just a few) about the horrors of being certain ethnicities.






America, aka 'War Criminals R US'.

200 years of racist superiority toward the 'enemy of the day'.


Equally essential, we must recognize and resist the racism pervading U.S. foreign policy. The Pentagon’s current military adventures ? whether in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia -- were foreshadowed, in the 19th century, by relentless Indian wars and by U.S. invasions of Mexico and the Philippines.

Financed by federal income taxes, this generations-old war machine has never had much use for the lives of peoples of color. It’s no accident that its numerous invasions and interventions invariably target non-white people.
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Many of us eagerly -- or obliviously -- float along the mainstream that invalidates the lives of people of color. Their labor and their living conditions, their needs and their pain, their gifts and their rights, are systematically negated, rendered invisible, rendered mute.

White solipsism helps explain the foreign policy double standard which regards only political violence aimed at whites as “terrorism.” Since World War II few whites have been victims of aerial warfare: no wonder few here see such warfare as the cowardly terrorism it is.

Although the pundits glibly link “terrorism” to Islam, they never call Congress or Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama terrorist when they squander billions invading Islamic oil lands or when (say) U.S. drone aircraft assassinate those resisting the invasion and occupation. Or when those unmanned drones kill civilians willy-nilly.

In the moral calculus of white America the tens -- maybe hundreds -- of thousands of slain Iraqis or Afghans barely exist. Even we who actively oppose U.S. militarism in West Asia and the Mid East often ignore the racism at its heart.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e24953.htm



One million dead CIVILIANS in Iraq/Afghanistan since 2001, and every one of these deaths a war crime. Few Americans seem to care - what horrendous evil.
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Re: Successful Nazis

Postby warriorhun on September 20th, 2011, 10:49 pm

"When I came to power, our Reich was a democracy. It seems the whole wide world would come to the aid of the German people and would give us everything - if only we remained a democracy.
Yes, the German people lived in a democracy, and were plundered and squeezed dry!
No, what do the international hyenas care about democracy or authoriter state?
They are interested in neither! They are interested in only one thing:
Are they letting themselves being plundred, yes or no?
Are they stupid enough to keep quiet in the process, yes or no?
And when a democracy is stupid enough to keep quiet in the process, then that is good. And when an authoriter state declares: "You will not plunder our people any more, neither from the outside nor from the inside!"-now, that is bad.
If we, the so-called authoriter state-which differs from the democracies in having the people behind it...if we, the so-called authoriter state, also complied with the sacrifices with which the international plutocracy burdened us...If I had said in 1933: "Dear Sirs...Esteemed Sirs of Geneva, what would you have us do? Aha, lets immediately write it on the slate: 6 billions for 1933, 1934, 1935, good, we will deliver! Is there anything else you would like? Yes, of course we will also deliver that, too!
Then, they would have said: "At last, a sensible regime in Germany..."

Adolf Hitler, 1940.
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