hoi.polloi @ Dec 3 2009, 12:40 PM wrote: Also, if we study the Hunts, and the "E. Howard Hunt" informant plugged on C2C, or might we begin to call it Hoax to Hoax AM, we have the existence of enormous wealth, monetary connections and similar social circles of the power-hungry.
How can they point out the "madness" of LBJ's "lust for power" when he was working so closely with similar types all around him? It seems the Hunts want to depict LBJ as a singularly insane exception to the power game, a man like Stalin who was able to magically claim power just by killing the competition?
Who - exactly - wanted the Kennedys out of the picture? Was it the Kennedys themselves? It seems so unclear but I am too young to understand the Kent State massacre, the Martin Luther King murder. When did we start getting hocussed, and does our 9/11 research penetrate deeper into true politics than other generations?
clemmie71 @ Dec 12 2009, 06:53 PM wrote: Someone will have fun chasing the truth down on this case. It’s obvious that Oswald was not JFK’s killer and the guilty party couldn’t afford to give him time to tell his story.
I spent a few minutes looking at Jack Ruby references online. Didn’t have time to download the Warren Commission report, but if someone has it, maybe they could look for JR’s SSN.
Jack Ruby was reported variously to have been born on 25 March 1911, or 25 April 1910, or 25 April 1911. Reportedly he was named Jacob Leon Rubenstein at birth. Reportedly he died on 3 January 1967. Some sources say he died in prison, some say he died in a hospital. Many sources ask the question, who was he, really?
The Ask.com search results page shows a Wikipedia link followed by a few words stating his birth name to be Jacob Rubenstein, but on the Wikipedia page itself his birth name is stated as Jack Leon Rubenstein. So, sometime after Ask.com’s robot last crawled over the Wikipedia page, the page was revised. Wonder why.
There is no SSDI record for a Jack Ruby, Jacob Rubenstein or Jack Rubenstein who died in 1967 or in Texas. Curiously, one Jacob Rubenstein born 1 July 0000 (year of birth unknown) died in March 1963 in an unspecified location per report issued from the District of Columbia.
Two different mug shots of Jack Ruby, one from the police and one from the sheriff, had the eyes subtly obscured or blurred.
In the late 1960’s, European newspapers printed an interview with an employee of the prison where JR was supposedly incarcerated (I realize this is anecdotal evidence and I don’t have a citation, sorry). He stated that JR didn’t actually serve his time in prison and that he was freed under a different name. This tallies with the story told by former CIA employee Frank Sneppes, author of Decent Interval, who said that Jack Ruby did not die in 1967 and that he had been given a new identity by the CIA (cited from the Covert History blog).
clemmie71 4 Dec 14 2009, 02:39 PM wrote:Andy,
I don’t pretend to know anything of what happened to JFK, LHO or JR. But the mystery is fascinating. What I posted above was the result of a few minutes’ searching online by myself (a damp-behind-the-ears newbie). It is a job for someone much smarter than me to chase it down. I respect the fact that there are people who have researched this case for years. Good luck and hats off to you!
I have asked myself the same question. It would be good to know just how far back the Great American Psy-Op really goes. Could LHO have been the first sim?But maybe the trail is too cold.
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