Was J.F.K. murdered?

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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby Libero on November 22nd, 2013, 8:08 pm

Lee Harvey Oswald... reported to be taken out by Jack Ruby on Nov. 24, 1963 and then buried the very next day on the 25th. But, who were the pallbearers for this event scheduled so hastily you ask? Members of the media, of course.

I arrived to discover dozens of police and federal agents, writers and photographers, but no mourners waiting to bid Oswald goodbye or good riddance.

...if we're gonna write a story about the burial of Lee Harvey Oswald, we're gonna have to bury the son of a bitch ourselves.


So much for the legal right of "innocent until proven guilty" in this reporter's writings.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ed-up.html

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From the photos it looks like the funeral may have been closed casket; understandable with Oswald having taken a shot to the gut and all. Equally understandable as to the contrasting decision for the future MLK open casket funeral with the gun shot reportedly occurring to his apparently unscathed face. And surely, the more modern day Bin Laden kill-to DNA verify-to plop into the sea in 24 hours funeral arrangement team must have understood the secrets to burial efficiency taken from the Oswald experience. <_<


Edit 11/26 -- Additionally, prior to the shooting of Oswald, how is it that this police lieutenant could be allowed to handle a piece of evidence so carelessly, especially when related to a presidential assassination investigation?

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... 63/354783/
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby simonshack on November 22nd, 2013, 9:14 pm

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WALTER CRONKITE ANNOUNCES "JFK DEAD"

Has anyone seen this? (Please note Cronkite's "totally unconfirmed" quote at 1:56)


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-TCzIHrLI

I will refrain right now from commenting on this short historical news media clip - and simply ask all readers what you make of it.



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Here's a shorter extract of the above broadcast, featuring only Cronkite's FINAL confirmation of JFK's alleged death. His words are:

"From Dallas Texas, the flash, apparently official, president Kennedy died at 1pm CST - 2 o'clock EST, some 38 minutes ago. Vice president Johnson has left the hospital in Dallas but we do not know to where he has proceeded, presumably he will be taking the oath of office shortly and become the 36th president of the United States."


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBMs8JlYcgQ

Now, just one thought of mine here (apart from the 'numb numbers' [3+8=11 and 3+6=9] in Cronkite's historical sentence). HOW could Cronkite pass so quickly from those "totally unconfirmed reports of JFK's death" to announcing Johnson taking oath as the new US president? This thought of mine, of course, is assuming that the first video above is an unedited / uncut CBS broadcast clip. Does this sound like a scripted newsflash - or is it just me?



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More historical media material ... enjoy - and look out for the similarities with our modern-day psyops - Dan Rather and all !


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E_GahgHy-o
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby Flabbergasted on November 23rd, 2013, 4:25 pm

simonshack wrote:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E_GahgHy-o


Lovely shirt at 1:50. Presidents come and go, but stripes are never out of date!

Edit: by the way, can someone help me understand what we see at 9:38?
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby Evil Edna on November 24th, 2013, 7:28 pm

As much is revealed by the narrator of the JFK hoax as by the dreadful '60s video fakery. :rolleyes:

"We now go live to Andrews Airforce Base...

The enclosed ramp contains the remains of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And a gray US Navy ambulance has pulled into sight and is now directly in front of the ramp.

There is some confusion here at the moment which is understandable. This tragic day could not be rehearsed."


Suuuuuure! :lol:

And what's with (ex) First Lady Jackie Kennedy and her undignified exit from the plane?! Supposedly she leaps from the cargo loading ramp!! How unladylike! And when she jumps onto the tarmac, the ramp is supposedly still five feet in the air! Wouldn't fancy insuring her ankles!

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And yet moments later, newly sworn-in LBJ makes a fittingly presidential exit from Airforce One. Gliding genteelly down a flight of metal steps which appeared out of nowhere! :blink:

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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby Evil Edna on November 24th, 2013, 10:59 pm

In the equally implausible next video from that series, the supposed assassin, L.H.Oswald, is led from his holding cell and presented to the world's media for questioning! :rolleyes:

Prior to the JFK PSYOP, has that ever happened, especially in such heinous cases as murder?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSxsD07e6i8#t=2m34s

OSWALD: I really don't know what the situation is about. Nobody's told me anything. Except that I'm accused of murdering a policeman. I know nothing more than that. I do request that someone come forward to give me legal assistance.

PRESS: Did you kill the President?

OSWALD: No, I've not been charged with that. In fact nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.


Plumbing the depths of credibility, the idea this was an impromptu media appearance by LHO. Back in the day did people really believe it was unscripted?
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby bostonterrierowner on November 25th, 2013, 10:03 am

Evil Edna wrote:Plumbing the depths of credibility, the idea this was an impromptu media appearance by LHO. Back in the day did people really believe it was unscripted?


Thank goodness things are different now :lol:
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby lux on November 25th, 2013, 1:30 pm

Evil Edna wrote:Plumbing the depths of credibility, the idea this was an impromptu media appearance by LHO. Back in the day did people really believe it was unscripted?


That's a good point. I don't recall an occasion where an accused murderer was actually presented, more or less formally, to the press for questioning as was done with Oswald either before or since.

It's been said many times that all Americans of my generation remember when they heard that “JFK was shot” and there is probably much truth to that. I remember it well. I was in school and I first heard about JFK “being shot” as I entered a class and some students were huddled around a radio listening to the news. Later that morning the school called an assembly of all students and we were told that he was dead and we were all sent home early.

For quite a long time afterward (don't remember how many days exactly) the only thing on the 3 big TV networks at that time was coverage of the “assassination,” the funeral, Oswald, Ruby, etc., etc. The TV news coverage was without break (even for commercials) around the clock. All regular TV programming was suspended. It was a hugely shocking event for the American public who swallowed it all hook, line and sinker.
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby bostonterrierowner on November 25th, 2013, 5:34 pm

lux wrote:
1.That's a good point. I don't recall an occasion where an accused murderer was actually presented, more or less formally, to the press for questioning as was done with Oswald either before or since.
It's been said many times that all Americans of my generation remember when they heard that “JFK was shot” and there is probably much truth to that. I remember it well. I was in school and I first heard about JFK “being shot” as I entered a class and some students were huddled around a radio listening to the news. Later that morning the school called an assembly of all students and we were told that he was dead and we were all sent home early.

2.For quite a long time afterward (don't remember how many days exactly) the only thing on the 3 big TV networks at that time was coverage of the “assassination,” the funeral, Oswald, Ruby, etc., etc. The TV news coverage was without break (even for commercials) around the clock. All regular TV programming was suspended. It was a hugely shocking event for the American public who swallowed it all hook, line and sinker.



full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeB--3N0jIE

1, Not exactly "Oswald"-like but something very similar happened in 2010 when a lonely killer allegedy shot 2 people ( one terminally ) in PiS's ( Polish political party , the one of Kaczynski bros ) regional office in Lodz . What you can see above is cops making sure that journalists have their moment with the shooter so he is able in a terrible acting performance to say to them : "I wanted to kill Kaczynski but my gun wasn't big enough " .
The whole thing was a sloppy psyop, the screenplay beyond ridiculous and the main actor most probably recruited somewhere in the slums of Lodz while wandering around "sparechanging" for a bottle of beer or cheap wine :)

2. The same mass mind-fuck torture was brought on Polish populace after 2010 "crash"
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby pov603 on December 10th, 2015, 11:03 am

Not sure if this is the most appropriate thread so please feel free to move if so desired.
I noticed in a recent BBC article on 'Alternative Realities' [more like an advert for the US series Man in the High Castle] the following comment:
Look first, unsurprisingly, to the original Twilight Zone, which aired an episode in early 1963 called The Parallel, in which an astronaut in orbit inexplicably finds himself on an alternate Earth. The changes around him are mostly minute (a white picket fence where one never was), with the most epochal variation being that John F Kennedy never became president.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20151126-the-man-in-the-high-castle-what-if-the-nazis-had-won
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740299/?ref_=nv_sr_1

When looking at the imdb page about the Twilight Zone it seems that the episode was aired in March 1963, 8 months before the JFK 'incident'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734670/?ref_=ttep_ep11

Seems an amazingly prophetic coincidence.
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby aa5 on May 9th, 2016, 9:19 am

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/08/the-medical-ordeals-of-jfk/309469/

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....Using personal letters, Navy records, and oral histories, biographers and historians over the past 20 years have begun to fill in a picture of Jack Kennedy as ill and ailment-ridden for his entire life—a far cry from the paragon of vigor (or “vigah,” in the family’s distinctive Massachusetts accent) that the Kennedys presented. After a sickly childhood he spent significant periods during his prep-school and college years in the hospital for severe intestinal ailments, infections, and what doctors thought for a time was leukemia. He suffered from ulcers and colitis as well as Addison’s disease, which necessitated the administration of regular steroid treatments. And it has been known for some time that Kennedy endured terrible back trouble. He wrote his book Profiles in Courage while recovering from back surgery in 1954 that almost killed him....



I read this article in the Atlantic recently. I wondered if Kennedy simply died of severe health problems. According to this article, he had serious health issues, of which he almost died several times as a young man. He somewhat recovered after long bed rests, and what were at the time experimental drug treatments for the underlying illness that the doctors speculated he had.

I also question how a guy with a broken back, Addison's disease & colitis could be any sort of stud, banging a bunch of women on the side. I suspect the 'player' image of him, was completely fake, a way to make him appear an alpha male to the voters, especially to women. And we are not talking about a guy who at one point in his life was a paragon of health, but who through aging and a hard life, was going downhill. The man was like in his 30's and had debilitating illness. In his teens and twenties his illnesses meant he had to drop out of schools to spend months bedridden.


What got me on this speculation, was someone said maybe Bill Clinton was never a player of women, instead asexual or homosexual. But at least Bill Clinton in his prime was a stallion of health and mental energy.

Something to realize is that men simply look at a woman to determine her sexual attractiveness - and the markers we look at subconsciously are mainly about fertility and health. But women's sexual attraction to men is mainly based on context. They try to find winners to mate with, but since the game changes through time, what traits give advantage to winners also change. In the gym the alpha male is the muscle bound guy lifting the biggest weights, with other men in awe of him and trying to learn from him. Whereas at a chess tournament the alpha male is the guy forcing other men to surrender on the chess board.

When you go to a club with 2 attractive women, all the other women are checking you out. Its a reason women are attracted to married men, if you have it together enough that you've landed another woman, you have already proven yourself.

With television they control all stories and images people see - something that most people are not smart enough to conceptualize what that really means. So the Beatles can have videos of women swarming around them and stories of their wild sexual escapades, which create in women's mind the idea that these guys are super studs. The men behind the camera can also hire songwriters, beat makers, music editors, talented singers for dubbing in the vocals, focus groups of people with an ear for engaging music and so on, to give the illusion that these guys have transcendent musical talent and genius.

I read about accounts of the Beatles actual romantic lives, from people who knew them, and it seemed very underwhelming. You can create the attraction in women's minds, and have an image of a super stud through controlling imagery, but when women spend time in person with the guy, his true nature is revealed rapidly to women. And what we have is average looking guys, probably with average sexual desire, and a collection of weaknesses and strengths like other men. At this point women are not so eager to sleep with the guy and receive the 'super stud' seed they thought they were going to get.

Imagine a woman is spellbound watching Kennedy giving a speech(written by a speechwriter), and seeing thousands of partisans going crazy for him. He invites her into his limo and she jumps in. But then she has to jump out, to help him with his crutches getting into the car. In the car he has to ask to pull over as his ulcerative collitis is acting up again and he has to spend 10 minutes in a gas station bathroom.

From google search this description came up of Addison's disease:

Ad·di·son's dis·ease
noun
a disease characterized by progressive anemia, low blood pressure, great weakness, and bronze discoloration of the skin. It is caused by inadequate secretion of hormones by the adrenal cortex.


Does this sound like a guy who is going to have a rock hard erection and dispense with another awestruck starlet?
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Re: Was J.F.K. murdered?

Postby Seneca on May 9th, 2016, 10:25 am

That is possible but we should also consider the possibility that the stories about his bad health are fake. The photograph you posted could be fake. Tineye found only 9 matches. That is very few for an official photo that appears to give some meaningful info.
To me it appears as if his head was pasted on another photo. I find it too large for his body and the lighting is different than on his hands. But maybe that is because of his diseases.
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