The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby nonhocapito on June 17th, 2017, 11:57 am

mnew9 » Yesterday, 20:46 wrote:
So unlucky Mohammad, overcome by smoke while escaping, decided to give up and go back to his flat....where he was trapped for two hours (I thought it was supposed to be a fast moving inferno!?!)...in which time he had no thoughts of escaping but decided to phone everyone he knew including relatives in Syria. His final words reportedly being "The fire is here now, goodbye". :wacko:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/came-better-life-first-victim-grenfell-fire-syrian-refugeemohammad/


Almost identical to the bullshit story of the "perfect" italian couple trapped in their apartment and getting busy texting everyone in their family that they were about to die.

Londra ha saputo offrire a mia figlia ciò che meritava per le sue capacità artistiche, oltre che tecniche». Emanuela Disarò ha la voce rotta. «Sono sconvolta», ammette. Però vuole far capire che, se sua figlia ha trovato la morte a 1.500 chilometri da casa, è solo perché nel suo Paese non aveva alcuna possibilità di mantenersi senza gravare su mamma e papà. «Era una ragazza matura, responsabile. E noi, come genitori, non abbiamo potuto far altro che accettare la sua scelta. Ora mi chiedo se avrei dovuto impedirglielo, trattenerla qui con noi, a Camposampiero. Ma il destino ha voluto così». La madre della ragazza morta nel rogo di Londra, parlando al Corriere del Veneto pesa attentamente ogni frase. Poche ore prima, invece, suo marito Loris si era lasciato andare a un duro sfogo di fronte ai giornalisti: «È colpa dello Stato che costringe i nostri figli a scappare all’estero per cercare un lavoro. Gloria era partita per cercare delle opportunità. E le aveva trovate. Si era appena sistemata e aveva tutta la vita davanti. Ora, invece, è tutto finito».


According to the above, both the mother and the father of "Gloria" have already found time to talk to the press about their dead daughter."The destiny wanted it", said the mother, while the father was the one blaming the government for not providing job opportunities. Which is so nonsensical, as if going to London meant risking to die in a fire whereas staying in Italy meant having a safe life!

http://corrieredelveneto.corriere.it/tr ... 4914.shtml

So, this is how it works: events that have international repercussions are "sold" to local agencies which tailor them for their own political/ propaganda needs targeted to the local public. This is why all terror events, especially in Europe where the rhetoric of immigration is rampant, always include "victims" of multiple nationalities.
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby Prescient on June 17th, 2017, 8:55 pm

So, this is how it works: events that have international repercussions are "sold" to local agencies which tailor them for their own political/ propaganda needs targeted to the local public.


The blanket media coverage of these media circus (especially "terror") events also serves the purpose of masking or burying real news too: so the real stories of real people facing real difficulties at the business end of the TPTB social cleansing and so called austerity (aka theft) policies go unreported.. :(
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby brianv on June 18th, 2017, 2:29 pm

Prescient » June 17th, 2017, 8:55 pm wrote:
So, this is how it works: events that have international repercussions are "sold" to local agencies which tailor them for their own political/ propaganda needs targeted to the local public.


The blanket media coverage of these media circus (especially "terror") events also serves the purpose of masking or burying real news too: so the real stories of real people facing real difficulties at the business end of the TPTB social cleansing and so called austerity (aka theft) policies go unreported.. :(


Yes, but more than that. Has there been any "suicide bombers" at Royal Garden parties or Cricket Matches or The Covent Garden Opera House or Chelsea Flower Show or The Royal Horse Show, etc.? Why not? Joe Public is always the target, never the "aristocracy".

Hence my disgust for seemingly intelligent people like Jon Snow - who in fact, is the worst piece of shit on the planet. Equaled only by Jeremy PaxoMan.
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby Prescient on June 18th, 2017, 9:21 pm

seemingly intelligent people like Jon Snow


I would say more intelligence but agreed he's the very definition of slime.

Also on the subject of tewwowists - never understood why theme parks haven't been targeted - zero security - hundreds of people in those lines and you would hardly stick out with a backpack.
Maybe Disney could be a future one (Newton Jones Burkett might be filming for it as I write this) but it might hurt the bottom line too much.

Back on topic - latest death count is at least 58 and police have just released new images for your delectation.

Daily Heil : INSIDE HELL'S TOWER :puke:

Here come the vicsims. For the moment I am assuming they are all fake unless proven otherwise.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eased.html

I note that all religions seem to be covered so that donations via all faith channels will pour in.
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby Serik on June 20th, 2017, 7:04 pm

Crisis actors in front of the text "Use your head".


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQ4UWMrnOI


The movie The Towering inferno came out in 1974, the same year the Grenfell tower was built. Coincidence or not ?

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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby pov603 on June 21st, 2017, 12:12 pm

Someone on youtube has pointed out that there was a UK TV programme called London's Burning set in a fictitious London firestation [Blackwall] which, in episodes #10.3 & #10.4 [aired in 05 & 12/Oct'97] featured a character whose name was...drumroll..."Grenfell".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123355/?ref_=nv_sr_1
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0894314/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby brianv on June 21st, 2017, 12:47 pm

Towering Inferno my ass. A 20 year old TV series? WTF? Grenfell is not an uncommon name. Sorry, but the last two posts are entirely meaningless.

A crappy 60's tower block built by friends of politician gangs (possibly used for vote rigging and gerrymandering), set on fire by the same, and will be refurbished by the same. And once again the scum known as the "media" drive the getaway car, then several internet posters try to shroud it in mystery. :rolleyes:
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby antipodean on June 22nd, 2017, 1:14 am

Towering Inferno my ass. A 20 year old TV series? WTF? Grenfell is not an uncommon name. Sorry, but the last two posts are entirely meaningless.

As soon as I heard the name Grenfell I thought of Joyce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Grenfell


Here we go again . Insurance changed a few months before to maximise pay out.
http://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/ ... c.facebook


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulVLH3sZ5s
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby brianv on June 22nd, 2017, 10:24 am

antipodean » June 22nd, 2017, 1:14 am wrote:
Towering Inferno my ass. A 20 year old TV series? WTF? Grenfell is not an uncommon name. Sorry, but the last two posts are entirely meaningless.

As soon as I heard the name Grenfell I thought of Joyce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Grenfell


Ditto. I even looked her up. :P
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby antipodean on June 22nd, 2017, 11:18 am

brianv » June 22nd, 2017, 9:24 pm wrote:
antipodean » June 22nd, 2017, 1:14 am wrote:
Towering Inferno my ass. A 20 year old TV series? WTF? Grenfell is not an uncommon name. Sorry, but the last two posts are entirely meaningless.

As soon as I heard the name Grenfell I thought of Joyce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Grenfell


Ditto. I even looked her up. :P


On another video put up by the same user as the one I posted above. Someone comments that Joyce is to blame.

Grenfell is famous for the actor Joyce Grenfell. Her Aunt was illiminati Lady (Nancy) Astor.
They both belonged to the same Christian sect and neither of them liked Jews.
They refused to have Jews working for them.
Pay back in the form of a 666 burnt offering?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozIwddkEDTw
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby brianv on June 22nd, 2017, 12:13 pm

antipodean » June 22nd, 2017, 11:18 am wrote:
brianv » June 22nd, 2017, 9:24 pm wrote:
antipodean » June 22nd, 2017, 1:14 am wrote:
Towering Inferno my ass. A 20 year old TV series? WTF? Grenfell is not an uncommon name. Sorry, but the last two posts are entirely meaningless.

As soon as I heard the name Grenfell I thought of Joyce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Grenfell


Ditto. I even looked her up. :P


On another video put up by the same user as the one I posted above. Someone comments that Joyce is to blame.

Grenfell is famous for the actor Joyce Grenfell. Her Aunt was illiminati Lady (Nancy) Astor.
They both belonged to the same Christian sect and neither of them liked Jews.
They refused to have Jews working for them.
Pay back in the form of a 666 burnt offering?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozIwddkEDTw


According to wiki,
Like her maternal aunt, Lady Astor, Grenfell was a member of the Church of Christ, Scientist, a religious organisation based on Christianity and spiritual healing.


There aren't many "anti-jews" buried in Golder's Green Cemetery, and celebrated "Jewess" Maureen Lipman fancies herself as a Latter Day Grenfell
Maureen Lipman has often toured with the one-woman show Re: Joyce!, which she co-wrote with James Roose-Evans. In it she recreates some of Grenfell's best-known sketches. Lipman also presented the radio programme Choice Grenfell, compiled from Grenfell's writings


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Grenfell

Fascinating reading about some of the UK's actors, did you know that the Prince of Dorkness himself, Christopher Lee, was born in *Belgravia, his mother a Countess of the Holy Roman Empire. Talk about Eliminati !!

Quiz: How many WW2 bombs fell in Belgravia?

This might answer all the questions - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grosvenor_Group
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby antipodean on June 23rd, 2017, 8:15 am

Quiz: How many WW2 bombs fell in Belgravia?

It is interesting how during WW2 no bombs appeared to have rained down on western parts of London. It's as though there was a demarcation line North of the Thames and west of the East end,with the odd stray bomb landing in the City.

Next to North Kensington the location of Grenfell Tower, is White City. An area of social housing with tenement blocks developed early last century, the street names comprising of countries and areas of the Commonwealth such as South Africa road etc.

Joyce Grenfell's husband does have some impressive military lineage, achieving the rank of Lt. Colonel and lived in North Kensington, at the time of his death.
His father is a well decorated Lt. Colonel, & his Grand Father a Vice Admiral http://www.thepeerage.com/p1980.htm#i19797

It wouldn't surprise me if the Grenfell tower's address of Grenfell road was named after this prominent military family. It's looking to me as though the real agenda here is Social Cleansing, with the other close by Tower blocks up for demolition as part of a Gentrification process.
The quoted comment I posted above doesn't now look so wacky after all.
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby brianv on June 23rd, 2017, 11:06 am

is White City. An area of social housing with tenement blocks developed early last century, the street names comprising of countries and areas of the Commonwealth such as South Africa road etc


Indeed. Been there, saw it. Yeuch! Do you think it's possible that the "Military" own parts of West London? Hmm.

t's looking to me as though the real agenda here is Social Cleansing, with the other close by Tower blocks up for demolition as part of a Gentrification process.


This is what I meant by vote-rigging and gerrymandering, and they have history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homes_for_votes_scandal

edit/ Round and round we go... Maureen Lipman was linked with the lead role in "Shirleymander" a "BBC comedy" (isn't it all comedy?) about the above scandal.
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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby mnew9 on June 23rd, 2017, 4:40 pm

Police say they may never find all the victims and the search of the scene could take until the end of the year
- yet amazingly the authorities have already identified the cause of the fire as being an old Hotpoint Fridge Freezer FF175BP model – made between March 2006 and July 2009! :o

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3867137/grenfell-tower-fire-was-started-by-a-hotpoint-faulty-fridge-investigators-confirm/

And already Hotpoint are asking customers to call them if they have the same model of fridge-freezer that started the blaze, which killed at least 79 people - FF175BP or FF175BG.
I would have thought the warranty would have ended on those models long ago. :D Seriously though, how can a fridge/freezer model that is 8 to 11 years old suddenly be deemed a fire hazard? The listed models have apparently had no previous history of fire issues.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grenfell-hotpoint-recall-fridge-fire-10674377

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Re: The Grenfell tower fire "inferno", 14-06-17

Postby antipodean on June 24th, 2017, 9:20 am

In this video below the alleged Grenfell Tower survivor who stated that the fire was started by a faulty fridge, is someone who owns their own media company and lives at a leafy Notting Hill address.
The video appears to have been put up by a new Youtube user named Annie Logical who's suddenly appeared as an expert, at researching the Grenfell Tower Fire.
I'm a bit dubious about any one who goes along with the it's the 'Ritual Jewish Sacrifice ' meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_D7PyYhrE&t=185s

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_D7PyYhrE
https://www.gofundme.com/mahad-egal-grenfell-disaster

Do you think it's possible that the "Military" own parts of West London? Hmm.


This is what I meant by vote-rigging and gerrymandering, and they have history.

I always thought the selling off of Council Houses under Thatcherism was nothing more than a Tory vote catcher. The lowering of Council Housing stock is what has triggered the affordable housing crisis in the UK today.

I can remember a mate of mine who had no money in 1988 being able to buy a council flat in Paddington. He'd managed to use the life long Westminster address of his parents to qualify.

The one decent thing Blair attempted to achieve when in Government was to try giving the Lease Holders of London Property, an avenue into being able to obtain the Free Hold of their property.
But the biggest hurdle would have been trying to unravel the Trusts of the Free Holders, many of which could have been tied up with military establishments etc., peerages and families such as the Grenfells

Then after cynical Gerry Mandering was the Poll Tax. The ultimate Tory weapon. Get off the electoral roll (which you would do if you rented in the private sector) to avoid paying the tax.
But it's interesting how in the recent election the Tories lost the seat of where the Grenfell Tower is located to the Labour party, run by a self styled maverick Socialist. Maybe the fire was a result of some sort of sour grapes.
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