Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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There are certain events you know you should comment and even investigate, but you try not to because it will be such an ungrateful messy job to patiently separate truth from lies.

This, is undoubtedly one of these cases. Yet it is interesting in its own way because it has turned into a diplomatic incident furthering the already wide gap between Britain and Italy or, possibly, the EU. Like the Concordia shipwreck, it involves "Cameron" and the italians who "do not count" on the international scenario.

Let's recap.

So we are told that, during a special rescue bid directed by the British secret service to free two hostages in the hands of Nigerian terrorists "linked to al-quaeda" (the usual completely unfounded statement), both hostages were killed.

The italian government protested, because, they said, they weren't even aware that the rescue bid was taking place. In other words, Britain left them out of the loop.

The british hostage, Chris McManus -- and the italian one, Franco Lamolinara:

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From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17308416

"McManus", where did I read that funny name just recently? Uh, I remember: it is a fictional character in the TV show "Oz": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McManus, "the idealistic manager of Emerald City". But I digress...

Assuming for the time being that this story is more or less real, the linked BBC article explains well enough the differences between italians and UK. But the crucial part comes toward the end -- and could be the key to understand this whole thing:
The BBC's diplomatic correspondent James Robbins said the Italian government tended to be in favour of negotiating in hostage situations, while Britain was absolutely against formal government negotiations.
It is a known fact that Italy in general is in favor of negotiating to free hostages and have been criticized for it. The impression is that the real subject of disagreement between the two nations is not, at the moment, whether Italy was warned of the imminent rescue operation. But rather that Italy did not want to use the option at all, but still focus on some sort of negotiation or ransom payment -- and that over this disagreement the UK went and did what they wanted anyway -- maybe just in time to stop the italians from "buying" the hostages freedom.

Which is possibly what had happened back in 2005 in Iraq with Giuliana Sgrena, allegedly kidnapped by some terrorist jihadist organization, and later freed thanks to the mediation of the italian secret service (which means: with an exchange of favors or money). As the story goes, just as Sgrena was being brought to safety, her convoy fell under fire at an american checkpoint, and the Italian official responsible for the operation was killed. Which, if the story is in any way true, could simply mean that this was a way to punish the italians for having used diplomatic methods not allowed in the israelo-anglo-american theater of operations.

Since I remember that this issue of the italians paying to free hostages has been raised in the past in international circles many other times (I still have to find precise references on the internet but I'm sure they are there), it seems that this operation in Nigeria might be serving as an excuse to send to Italy another message: certain initiatives, a certain residual independence in foreign policy will not be tolerated anymore.

i don't know what is real of this story and I personally can't tell yet. But I cannot avoid to feel a certain staged air about it, possibly intended as a lesson to Italy -- possibly as the weak link in the EU that has to be "put in its place".
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Re: Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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This is the video released by AFP labeled as the "last one" with the hostages alive.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE1nKZ4ZTyI

1) why are the faces out of focus?

2) why is there no audio (in any version available of this video)?

3) why are we seeing this video only now?

This is supposedly a zoomed out frame from the video above (but not present in the video above):

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From http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16185201

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We are told the italian engineer and british construction worker worked for a company called B. Stabilini, a Nigerian based company of italian origins.
Here is their home page with picture and memorial message:
http://bstabilini.com/s/cc_images/cache ... 1331279986
In Loving Memory of Chris & Franco

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RIP from all your friends at B.Stabilini & Co. Ltd
That's it for the memorial. These guys have allegedly been kidnapped for almost a year, but whatever.

Is it credible that this company had to use the same out of focus ugly picture of Lamolinara that is being used by every every news website in the world? didn't they have something original and of their own to use? And how photoshopped is McManus on that green foliage background?

Another uncropped version of that Lamolinara picture can be found on the web, but it is of fantastically bad quality, for no apparent reason:

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From http://notizie.tiscali.it/articoli/este ... geria.html

At first it looked like a webcam pic, and now is starting to look like an absurd self-shot sitting at a table. :huh: Is this really an image that anyone would pick to feed to the news or to add to a memorial page?

According to Panorama, Lamolinara had been in Nigeria for 11 years. <_<

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Chairman of the board at B. Stabilini:
"Prince Bola Ajibola"
http://www.bolaajibolaandco.com/Bola%20Ajibola.html
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"He is married and blessed with five children, all lawyers." From http://www.bolaajibolaandco.com/Bola%20Ajibola.html
He was also a Judge of the World Bank Administrative Tribunal; Constitutional Court of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina; Arbitrator for the Boundary Dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea and one of the Commissioners empanelled by the United Nations Compensation Commission to decide on the compensation claims filed by Kuwait against Iraq as a result of the Gulf War.
...I take back my previous ideas about this story being a UK vs. Italy kind of thing. It is rather starting to sound like a "Nigerian scam" to me. :lol: :P
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Re: Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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It is interesting to note about the same photo being reused.
With Nigeria being very 'dangerous' for westerners, security is/should be 'tight' and photo-ID should be very common [I am working in Qatar and the company has already taken my photo and posted on line to indicate who the 'newcomer' is], so I can only imagine the same being the case in Nigeria with a western/Italian company.
But that would be presupposing too much...
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Re: Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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Thanks for pointing this out pov603. Besides we are told the kidnapping took place last May, but i never heard the name of the two people involved or seen their pictures anywhere in the media since then. Do they belong to reality?

... and does "B. Stabilini" even exists? Is it even a real company?

According to whois, bstabilini.com was created on the 20th of February 2012!

In theory registered on that date by this guy "Matthew Hulme": http://ng.linkedin.com/pub/matthew-hulm ... /8/650/241

Add to this that the website is quite badly designed and lame, especially considering it is supposed to be a corporate website, and that, as mentioned, it features an absurdly short and sloppy memorial of the two victims...

I smell complete fakery...
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Re: Killing of hostages in Nigeria, 9 March 2012

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Italy is frequently tagged as 'changing sides' by British tv/media types.
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