Oak Tree Sikh Temple shooting, August 5th 2012

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Winston'sMyth
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Oak Tree Sikh Temple shooting, August 5th 2012

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Dear All,

I live an hour away from the site of this breaking news story about a mass shooting at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Not sure what to think of it yet. Conflicting reports abound.


I found this line in the article suspicious...
"Police also have been asking media to not broadcast any photo, video or tactical developments at temple"
http://oakcreek.patch.com/articles/seve ... o-10914229
Here are two photos from the above link... Expect the best, the best what exactly? Fakery?
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This gentleman (I call him Mr. Warrior baseball) occurs in another photo shown later in this post
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other news links...
http://www.wkow.com/story/19199314/shoo ... eek-temple
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/165061026.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/0 ... 8#liveblog

Is it me or does this officer look like he is "floating"?
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http://www.620wtmj.com/multimedia/photo ... tml?page=1
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I'm not sure how to interpret the ELA.
Mr. Warrior baseball shows up again in the above 620wtmj article
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I just came to the forum to post this exact "news". More drama to come I suppose.
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No surprise how many fake fatalities. I also get the feeling that cover photo was intentionally chosen for its one eye symbolism. The perps clearly want us to know they are responsible and in an almost taunting way.

"Gunman opens fire at Sikh temple in Wisconsin; 7 dead"
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... -dead?lite

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I was hoping Google streetview would be of assistance on analysing the photograph above with the lone Cop. Unfortunately, it would appear that since the last image was taken (July 2007), they have added a major intersection just a few hundred yards from the junction of South Howell Ave & East Rowson Ave, Oak Creek. Check it out and use the telegraph wires as your datum point. ;)

Oh, and they have added the lower sections to the street lights.
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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ADMIN NOTICE (simon) : I have moved the Oak Creek posts into this dedicated thread - in the General World Affairs section" - for the time being...
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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What is the perps' obsession with all these "shootings"? More gun control? Make all domestic weapons eventually a black market commodity (like drugs) so that a better price can be obtained through various back channels (e.g. the so-called "war" on drugs)? I doubt the perps are concerned with the state of mental health care :P... although they should, as they themselves are in dire need of it.
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Winston'sMyth wrote:Dear All,

I live an hour away from the site of this breaking news story about a mass shooting at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Not sure what to think of it yet. Conflicting reports abound.
In Toronto, we had a recent event at a major shopping centre involving a person who used a gun to kill and injure people. I believe there were many south Asians among the injured and passers-by. If these are faked events, is it possible that some people are involved in both locations?

I mean to suggest that, if "agents" are involved, they might be a small mobile group. They need to control the scenery and get their story into the media quickly. They could be identified.
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SmokingGunII wrote:I was hoping Google streetview would be of assistance on analysing the photograph above with the lone Cop. Unfortunately, it would appear that since the last image was taken (July 2007), they have added a major intersection just a few hundred yards from the junction of South Howell Ave & East Rowson Ave, Oak Creek. Check it out and use the telegraph wires as your datum point. ;)

Oh, and they have added the lower sections to the street lights.
Thanks for the help SGII

in reference to the lone officer photo from the article
http://www.620wtmj.com/multimedia/photo ... tml?page=1
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Here is Google street view from Temple address 7512 S. Howell Ave looking towards Rawson Ave. we can see the water tower in the distance to the left.
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from the intersection of S. Howell Ave. and E. Rawson Ave. looking towards the Temple and we see the water tower in the distance to the right
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at the base of the "hill", tower is far off
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using the water tower as reference here is an approximation of the officer's location
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While there are probably distortions in Google's street view, the lettering on the water tower is in the wrong place, there is no incline in the road.

I need to make a road trip once things settle down to take my own photographs.
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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Makkonen wrote:What is the perps' obsession with all these "shootings"? More gun control? Make all domestic weapons eventually a black market commodity (like drugs) so that a better price can be obtained through various back channels (e.g. the so-called "war" on drugs)? I doubt the perps are concerned with the state of mental health care :P... although they should, as they themselves are in dire need of it.
lol, yes they are psychopaths!
If I may speculate here...
Once guns are illegal there will be no way to resist tyranny and the confiscated guns will come at no cost to the perps. I think mental health is on their mind as in everyone forced to take a Brave New World like Soma.
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JanB wrote:Dear All,

I live an hour away from the site of this breaking news story about a mass shooting at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Not sure what to think of it yet. Conflicting reports abound.
=quote]

In Toronto, we had a recent event at a major shopping centre involving a person who used a gun to kill and injure people. I believe there were many south Asians among the injured and passers-by. If these are faked events, is it possible that some people are involved in both locations?

I mean to suggest that, if "agents" are involved, they might be a small mobile group. They need to control the scenery and get their story into the media quickly. They could be identified.
Sounds like you are hinting at a DallasGoldbug theory? All that needs to be proven is a few fake photos or videos, how the events are created seems extraneous to me.
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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Some of the photos from the alleged event look modified. This one as an example I attempted to zoom in some and blow up the size to show all the blurriness, especially around the heads of the individuals. Maybe these images of people were pasted in?

Original:

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Zoomed in:

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Reference, http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/ ... FP20120805

If you zoom in on this one there is lots of blurriness around the cops in the middle of this picture. Either there is cut and paste going on or intentional blurring.

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There is a glare type line that goes through the cops head into the car. Maybe its just a really poorly taken picture? I found another picture below of the area and it appears there are lots of power lines that go horizontally through the picture.

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Winston'sMyth wrote:
Makkonen wrote:What is the perps' obsession with all these "shootings"? More gun control? Make all domestic weapons eventually a black market commodity (like drugs) so that a better price can be obtained through various back channels (e.g. the so-called "war" on drugs)? I doubt the perps are concerned with the state of mental health care :P... although they should, as they themselves are in dire need of it.
lol, yes they are psychopaths!
If I may speculate here...
Once guns are illegal there will be no way to resist tyranny and the confiscated guns will come at no cost to the perps. I think mental health is on their mind as in everyone forced to take a Brave New World like Soma.
Also an atrocity garners the Gummint an audience. The Apparatus gets to tighten its grip on the public's mind.. The populus tunes in to get the latest, to be told by Authority what to do, what to think, etc.. And why wait for a real atrocity to happen when you can manufacture one, with a little help from your crooked media friends like Mr Murdoch, et al.
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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To raise the level of FUD (fear, uncertainty, and despair)

According to the article, neighbors reported that Milwaukee County Sheriffs and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms entered a home in Cudahy. Yet in the following paragraph, authorities instructed residents not to talk to the media. Makes sense, right? :huh:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/05/w ... -shooting/

addendum:
more detailed info
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/repo ... 59506.html
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Re: OAK CREEK shootings

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I saw this image banner and just wanted to yell to the cop on the left "go get'em tiger"! Anyone else ever notice that the perps must put big budget into their productions but why do they always buy store brand bottled water? Sorry, just some levity ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

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TrutherInTX wrote:I saw this image banner and just wanted to yell to the cop on the left "go get'em tiger"! Anyone else ever notice that the perps must put big budget into their productions but why do they always buy store brand bottled water? Sorry, just some levity ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

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I think it was terence.drew who pointer out... Evian = Naiv[e] Not suggesting there's any merit to that, it could be a simple photographic trick to "push back" the shooped in subjects!
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