Engineering 'disease'

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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby simonshack on July 28th, 2017, 11:18 pm

agraposo » July 28th, 2017, 8:15 pm wrote:Thanks, Simon.

On the other hand, Sweden bans mandatory vaccinations:

Woah! I'm no 'nationalist' by any means - nor do I ever brag of being a crossbreed (Norwegian/Swedish) Scandinavian - but in this case I'm rather pleased and proud of my fellow countrymen!

Could a vaccine-war break out between Sweden and the rest of Europe?

Hey, we could ask Big Pharma to finance it! :P

(And if Sweden wins, they will get to inoculate an ebola-'vaccine' into the butts of the Big Pharma clowns!)
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby kickstones on July 29th, 2017, 11:40 am

simonshack » July 28th, 2017, 6:35 pm wrote:
agraposo » July 28th, 2017, 2:19 pm wrote:Simon, you live in Italy.

What do you think of this?

Italy makes 12 vaccinations compulsory for children

Are there really protests in Italy against that law?

Dear Agraposo,

I think it sucks & stinks to utter high heaven. To force people to vaccinate their kids is - uh well - undemocratic (to put it as mildly as possible)... Yes, of course people are protesting - I personally don't know anyone who is supportive of this sham. As it is, I have (mild) hopes that the whole thing is going to implode on itself - when too many parents won't comply. As ever the optimist I remain...

Jon Rappoport has this insight...

Measles outbreak in Europe: convenient lies

The World Health Organization is now touting a measles epidemic in Europe. And of course, they’re explaining it with propaganda—it’s the fault of people who refuse to allow their children to take the measles vaccination.

The focus is on Italy, where, “coincidently,” protesters are outraged at a new law mandating vaccination for children. Perfect. “You see? Don’t take the shot and this is what you get. A massive outbreak.”

Well, here is an official report. In Italy, there are 3300 case of measles and two deaths. ... -in-europe

That’s the classic and traditional and age-old picture of measles. 3298 children have survived. Kids get measles, they recover, and thereafter they’re immune.

As for the two children who died, you would have to do a very careful independent investigation, to determine what health problems they may have had before they contracted measles. And “health problems” would include prior toxic medical treatment. The actual cause of death isn’t always what health authorities say it is. ... ient-lies/
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby agraposo on July 29th, 2017, 7:57 pm

Regarding the measles virus, which virologist Stefan Lanka says doesn't exist, I would like to update the case, discussed here in February 2016 by Seneca and others:

Anti-Vaxxer Biologist Stefan Lanka Bets Over $100K Measles Isn’t A Virus; He Wins In German Federal Supreme Court
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby Kham on July 30th, 2017, 5:29 pm


What an astounding article! No one in that German court could prove the measles virus actually exists. I hope that anti vaxers in the U.S. take note of this win and start their own lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers. At this point in my research on the existence of viruses, I don't think any researcher can prove any virus exists as they are too small for pictures and thus rely on Petrie dish blooms for proof of existence. Come on anti-Vaxer groups, let's take all vaccine makers to the American courts and make them all prove those other viruses exist as well and clean house.

Conclusion from the court:

The Supreme Court judgment in the measles virus trial and the results of the genetic tests have consequences: Any national and international statements on the alleged measles virus, the infectivity of measles, and on the benefit and safety of vaccination against measles, are since then of no scientific character and have thus been deprived of their legal basis.

The measles vaccine has no scientific character and thus no legal basis. Wow. That feels like such good news. The fight is on. I'm curious to know how the German courts will use this ruling.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby pov603 on July 31st, 2017, 8:23 am

If one reads the comments in the article it seems that there is disparity between peoples understandings as to whether the latest/last "verdict" was based upon a legal technicality or actual scientific "proof".
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby patrix on October 2nd, 2017, 1:04 pm

Dear Cluesforumers,

Some of you might think this is stretching too far and I know many of you have different views on how medicine and nutrition are being distorted by the Nutwork. And I respect different views but also hope you respect mine which are the results of many years of looking into medicine.

In my view, Statins and cholesterol lowering drugs is a medical hoax that has been carefully designed through the decades. Statins are not only ineffective, but a slow acting poison that can induce the very thing it’s supposed to cure – heart disease (among many other problems like cancer, dementia and diabetes). The way this works is that Statins impairs one of our most crucial bodily functions – The ability to produce cholesterol. Cholesterol is needed for cell repair and hormone production, and without it we will suffer all kinds of problems.
The cholesterol hoax was introduced in two steps by the Nutwork that began in the sixties:
1. Establish a false connection between cholesterol and heart disease in the medical community and public mind.
2. Introduce Statins, and show via studies that it (correctly) lowers serum (blood) cholesterol and because of step one they can be assumed to be effective against heart disease.

But as you may have understood, the Nutwork are very skilled in the business of lies and hoaxes and are often cleverly bringing down their own hoaxes and uses the credibility they gain from that to sell other lies - “The best lies are the ones that are 80% true”, and that is what I would like to bring attention to here:
Here we have an astronaut ( astronot to Cluesforumers :-) that was righteously fighting the Statin and cholesterol hoax. A real American hero. How could anyone dare claim we did not go to the moon?
Of course this could be a false accusation on my behalf. Dr. Duane Graveline did not participate very long in the Apollo program and might have been unaware it was a hoax or might have chosen to leave it because of it. But it's notable, at least to me, that he chose to advertise his criticism of Statins as “Spacedoc”.
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