Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

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Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

Postby nonhocapito on July 28th, 2016, 10:57 am

Story: Bad ISIS kids enter church, slit priest's throat, get killed by police.

At this point I think discarded Hollywood scripts are actually sold to news media to make news.

Documented on wickedpedia here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentat_ ... du-Rouvray and in numerous PR articles such as this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... du-rouvray

So, nothing in this story makes much sense. Starting from the fact that these ISIS kids decided to attack the church on a Tuesday, rather than on a Sunday. At 9:25, 5 hostages were taken, we are told. "A couple of parishioners and three nuns" says wickedpedia.

You can immediately see how this was a very controlled, closed environment with no risk of unwanted witnesses.

One of the nuns is interviewed here: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/26/europ ... index.html (sorry I cannot embed this for some reason)

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In her deadpan report, Delafosse ("from the pit") says that the priest had just celebrated mass. However wicked and other sources state that it all happened before or during mass...

There's one unnamed parishioner among the victims, apparently, but the relevant victim is supposed to be one 86 yo Jacques Hamel (Jacques, what better name?), who appears to actually be a retired priest substituting the actual curate of the church, one "Auguste Moanda-Phuati", who "was on holiday". Jack Ham can actually be seen in a few videos around the media and on youtube.

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from http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2 ... _3224.html

Here's a profile by France 24:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmrRH7bKpM

The thing to notice is that such videos appear to be all very recent, despite the fact that the guy was retired and had a long history as a priest. So why all this late attention? Frankly I would expect much more material about a priest from Africa, who instead leaves only feeble traces of himself before this event.

On the church page Auguste Moanda-Phuati is indicated as a "redeemer". The redimeers are a religious order, that's all I find out... Here he is in a video giving interviews about the events:

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from http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/27/it-should ... d-6033730/

As to the ISIS kids, pictured below, as usually they were "killed by police" at the end of the event. This is SO ridiculous as it is convenient!

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from http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/27/it-should ... d-6033730/

Serious police and a serious government would make sure the the assailants are taken alive, for the obvious reasons that...

1) you don't want to make martyrs out of them and

2) you want to actually interrogate these people and learn about this theoretical network they rely on. Besides,

3) a trial by the rule of law would only enhance the image of "civilization" as opposed to the barbaric methods of the "terrorists".

Of course none of the above happens or can be even applied since these events are staged and largely or entirely faked: but noting this serves to show how the response of the police is yet another hollywodesque element which does not belong to reality. The same goes for the idotic marches the french politicians subject the country to. In the real world, Hollande would already have been replaced by a more effective leader, and nobody would march around broadcasting the message of the "terrorists" large and wide, which at the end of the day seems to be the only purpose everyone agrees on.
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Re: Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

Postby brianv on July 28th, 2016, 1:30 pm

At this point I think discarded Hollywood scripts are actually sold to news media to make news.


That's an interesting thought, I think you are bang on. Again it has to be asked, what is the purpose of all these idiotic stories being fed to the public? Is it to make us believe that they are hiding something or are they hiding something? Or is it simply another Empire of Clowns collapsing?
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Re: Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

Postby nonhocapito on July 28th, 2016, 8:08 pm

It's probably not relevant but... This event happens 1 year, 1 month, and 11 days after the Charleston church shooting, attributed to the artificial identity of "Dylann Roof", aka "Fanny Drool".

Here's some promotional rhetoric in commemoration of the joyous occasion (from CNN):



This Saint-Etienne deed is instead attributed to one "Kermiche Adel", aka "Leaked Chimer". (Sorry for the anagrams, I better stop doing this. :rolleyes:)

Meanwhile, you can see Leaked Chimer's pledge video here: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1512534/t ... ror-group/ (the propaganda cannot be stopped). I don't know who's who... We are told that the other guy's identity responds to one "Nabil Abdel-Malik Petitjean". (No, too many letters, won't waste a trip to the Internet Anagram Server.)
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Re: Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

Postby Kham on August 5th, 2016, 7:08 am

With the help of my Arabic-speaking and hard-of-hearing husband we have somewhat translated this video. It must be noted first that this man is not a native arabic speaker.

Notice how the man bows his head and grabs the other guys hand when he starts the prayer.
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When Muslims make prayers they open their hands like a book.
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These fellows are holding hands for prayers like Christians and bowing their heads. Big give away this faked video is meant for Christians to view.
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Getting on with the translation to English, the first few words that are spoken is a name: Amir Abu Bakr Al Badgadi Al Huesseini Al Koraysh.

The next bunch of dozen words are mumbled. They kind of sound Arabic but the words are not clear or obvious so no translation can be given.

The next dozen words spoken are singular words that are being strung together: outside, non believers, God is great, martyr.

Then a few more incomprehensible words.

The final few dozen words are very clear and precise and can be exactly translated: All praises be to God, lord of the universe, praise God, God is great, praise God, God is great, praise God, God is great, all praises be to God, lord of the universe.

Let's recap, thesun.co.uk article where this video was found stated that this was a video of fanatics swearing loyalty to a terror group.

The loose translation of the arabic in the video is:
Mumble, Amir Abu Bakr Al Badgadi Al Husseini Al Koraysh, mumble, mumble, mumble, outside, non believers, God is great, martyr, mumble, mumble, All praises be to God, lord of the universe, praise God, God is great, praise God, God is great, praise God, God is great, all praises be to God, lord of the universe.

Sorry, but that is a really lame oath of allegiance. ISIS should start watching some Game of Thrones, they swear some really bad ass oaths on that show.
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Re: Rouen Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray church attack, 26-7-2016

Postby hoi.polloi on August 5th, 2016, 3:56 pm

Meant for Christians to view, created by Jews, and frustrating intelligent Muslims who will try to explain it. What a carousel! Thanks for this, K!
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