The Banks' War Against Us

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The Banks' War Against Us

Postby hoi.polloi on October 19th, 2009, 12:19 pm

Technology and the Banking Movement

9/11 and 7/7 appear to be attempts by the criminal cowards to fulfill their wish to destroy all local communities and subjugate them to their "world government." Looking at the present state of their simulation technologies reveals a disturbing pattern:

1. THE DESIRE TO SUBJUGATE HUMAN WILL - The banking movement practices and tests anti-human technology under long periods and secret conditions before releasing weaker commercial versions to sell to the public. These weaker versions are viewed as the "highest advancement" of human will, even while more advanced and deadly versions are kept for themselves. They often develop this technology under the auspices of humanism, even while performing inhumane experiments that are later exposed as the crimes they are - e.g.; MKultra

Possible solution: The banking movement must be dismantled and its organizers captured. We as a species have been trying to oust our parasitic brethren for ages now. The time has come to finish the job.


2. THEIR DOUBLE-EDGED RESPONSE - In order to prevent us from organizing their dismantlement, the banking movement must perform two operations at once - which are often disjointed. On the one hand, they must appear benevolent to those watching communities get ripped asunder. On the other hand, they must actively accelerate their program to destroy communities faster than we are organizing against them. To address the latter problem, they are scrambling to develop as massive a number of technologies to weaponize as they can, including: cloning, propulsion systems, nanotechnology, robots, injections, drugs, etc.

e.g.; public technology reveals the Nazi-type cloning and grafting programs have become advanced enough for the criminal cowards to have much more than "Dolly" the cloned sheep. The public record widely declared in the 90's that cloning was unstable, unreliable and produced only retarded offspring. We can assume, like most fake "weak new technology" news, that this is to cover up the expert cloning abilities they've likely mastered. This kind of reporting likely applies to flight capabilities, future combat systems and anti-human weaponry

Possible solution: Train people to recognize when their neighbors are being destroyed in open - and do not accept the "benevolent" explanations for such destruction. If under attack by the banking movement, create alliances between your community and others' in order to oust the problem. Capture them, embarrass them publicly, sue and arrest them, and otherwise disempower them as much as possible.


3. THEIR GREATEST WEAPON: ARTIFICIAL BLINDSPOTS - Since a community that recognizes it is under attack by the banking movement is a community that can defend itself, there is ongoing public innoculation against our ability to detect such control dynamics. We can see that the blind-spots they mean to impose on us are introduced just as "softly" as their weaponry. For instance, through obnoxious subliminal messages in entertainment media or blurry and undiscussed background images of symbols they mean to communicate, we "absorb" acceptance of their weapon or their imposed blind-spot.

e.g.; In regards to computerized audio-visual experiences that appear human-like, but are 100% computer-animated actors, such systems have signs of weakness which reveal their origin. In order to combat jarring errors that are publicly exposed, the errors are left undiscussed in the open, combatted in private and promptly incorporated into children's entertainment, cartoons and popular media as unspoken convention. This way, attention is never focused on the obvious "seams".

Possible solution: Their mistake often seems to be the inability to catch their own errors before they make them. If we can learn to pay attention to early warnings that are later attacked en masse (e.g.; Simon Shack's September Clues ) we might learn about their weaknesses by what they seem to ignore, backstab and - finally - openly fear.


This thread was created as a place for people to discuss NEW and PREVIOUSLY UNDETECTED control mechanisms which you have noticed in your community but which not enough people give a voice to. Here is a place to openly discuss and warn your brothers and sisters of NEW SIMULATION TECHNOLOGIES which you feel may be used by the larger banking movement in attempts to fool your community.

Please note: Due to the large subject, this topic has already gone through some evolution. Let's try to focus on simulation technologies and deceptive system dynamics rather than UFOs, etc.
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Postby carcdr on October 24th, 2009, 4:49 am

(merged thread)

If you wish to explore the field of computer graphics, start with ACM and IEEE.

ACM TOG (Transactions On Graphics).

In the '80's, a leading researcher in CGI realism was Alain Fournier at the University of Toronto. Google his name and for his students.

Here's one

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~poulin/fou ... ff.phd.pdf

search for the phrase "synthe" in this paper.

here are some more links

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~poulin/fou ... .fund.html

These people are sincere scientists - doing science for science' sake. They have no clue how their product was put to use. (Militarization of computer graphics??? How preposterous!).
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Postby hoi.polloi on October 24th, 2009, 8:35 pm

(merged thread)


We are often told when Peter Jackson's weta workshop or LucasArts or Pixar is involved or some movie with new special effects comes out that we should be bowled over by the "fascinating" or "incredible" or "magic" special effects.

Rockwell Collins - which NORAD chief Ralph E. "Ed" Eberhart was involved with on 9/11 - claims to be the "LEADER" in computer graphics for 30+ years.

Now, that is quite a bold statement. Why don't we see Rockwell Collins or huge military computer groups attached to the end of any movie adaptions of a Tom Clancy novel?

It seems to me that the true leaders in special effects aren't necessarily who we think they are, and they aren't showing off their capabilities in huge public venues the way we may assume.

IBM Federal and Oracle computers are involved with our government, and they are also involved with the military technocracy barbarians in control of the globalists. (Blackwater aka Xe)

Is the "10 years ahead" quip about the state of military technology true?

Is post-1990's London the only place where these sim-people are emerging from or have we been immersed in the simulation longer than we'd like to believe?
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Postby carcdr on November 1st, 2009, 7:38 am

I suggest that we begin by discussing the terminology.

Precise terminology will help cut through the issues.

What is a "bank"?

Is an "investment bank" really a "bank"?

The government regulates the use of certain terms applied to certain professions - e.g. Engineer, Lawyer, Doctor, etc. The regulations applied to these professions have legal (incl. tort law) implications.

Should the terms "banker" and "insurer" be applied to such exacting legal standards?

If Engineers produced buildings and bridges that collapsed as regularly as Economies, they would be sued into oblivion.

It is time to regulate the financial "industries" with the same rigor that honest productive industries are regulated.

"Free market", "globalism", "New World Order", et al, are double-speak for the concept of unregulated opportunism, rape of fellow man, ponzi schemes, money-for-nothing, etc.


The "people" who perpetrate such schemes are in a lower phyla than the majority of humans on the planet.

They have not evolved to the level of modern humanity.

They know/sense/intuit that they are incapable of competing with more-evolved humans, hence, they resort to criminal activities to perpetuate their existence.

Extortion and "fire insurance" scams, racism, etc.

Communication Theory shows us that people project their own "personalities" onto their opponents. E.G. if they don't trust someone, it's mostly because they themselves cannot be trusted. They project their own possible (re)actions onto the opponent. If they think that the target person cannot be trusted, it is because they, themselves, cannot be trusted. "He's going to rip me off" comes from "I would rip him off in this particular situation".

When people point out racists, it is most likely that they themselves are racist (they know how racists "think" and so they apply this "logic" to their targets).

When people point to terrorists, it is most likely that they themselves are the actual terrorists. They "know" how terrorists "think". IED's, insurgence, whatever. They dreamed this shit up, and then imposed these dreams onto their opponents.

Communication Theory.

You expect people to act like you - yourself - would act.

Embellish the expectation.

If your "opponent" doesn't act like you expect, then create the action (cause it to happen).
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Postby hoi.polloi on November 3rd, 2009, 11:19 pm

Yeah, economic practice these days seems to be some sort of distorted-reality notion that people are gummy but they can be forced into a clay-like substance if you mash them up enough. It's stupid and insane. People don't work that way physically or mentally.

Everyone is in the process of transforming the world around them - co-creating - all that silly sounding stuff - but it's true. And I think it begins with communication. If we are really going to see change, it means informing and helping speak truth - which is what we're after at this forum. It's a strange new dialogue for people because the CFR types listed in D.Duck's post don't really create culture that sees the value in telling the truth - they encourage distortion and worship in primacy their "ability" at deception.

Wow. Great accomplishment. You can do what a 3-year old does.

They are overly proud of their fearful, manipulative and at time self-ascribed "dark" behavior - when they certainly should not represent the human race. Maybe human beings are not evil, but maybe what passes for "good" these days removes all truthful meaning from the word.

You're right carcdr - it all starts with words. Bankers can be cool, and banks can be great conceptually. Yet, what passes for "bankers" or "banks" these days removes all truthful meaning from the word. Our mission - if we have one - is to help one another give words true meaning instead of superficial emotional values.

We want to imbue words - and the way people use them - with the power to expose and eject false people.
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Postby b"+" on November 7th, 2009, 4:07 pm

Great thread folks,

Some people have made good headway along this path. You can hurt them were it counts.
This is not the latest video of Rockerchic4God but it made a huge initial impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGC1mCS4OVo



Catherine Austin Fitts of http://www.solari.com/ has been advocating localized money and barter programs replacing the banking system for years - I believe it's in progress in places.

The only question seems to be one of time to achieve a turn around in perception to avoid maximum pain.

I too hope we can all maintain contact throughout,
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Postby hoi.polloi on November 9th, 2009, 12:34 am

I understand the banks really really really dislike when we do that.

Apparently there was something in the 20's in Spain that they squashed, involving even U.S. troops?

Then, of course we have the ongoing Jackson, Lincoln, etc. "war against bankers" with U.S. presidents.

Not saying it shouldn't be a goal, just saying an "inconvenient truth" ... it's exactly what we want and exactly what they hate. There must be a peaceful way to reconcile this difference in philosophy.
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Postby b"+" on November 9th, 2009, 10:00 am

Hey hoi.polloi
I don't know about the Spanish connection, but LA has been handing out worthless IOU's to it's public servants for some time because there is no cash (also worthless) in the system. That obviously can't continue without something breaking and perhaps soon. Because the market indices are rising people are soothed into believing financially things are getting better. It's even tempting to convince me they can pull a rabbit out of a hat. Of course it'll still be a CGI rabbit and a CGI hat. *I lend an ear to Max Keiser in this regard.

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Postby hoi.polloi on December 1st, 2009, 12:55 am

So what of local currencies? What has been tried?

How can we break free of the banks - besides the obvious "stop giving them our paychecks" ...?

Can we create an American version of the Signoraggio movement in Italy? http://primit.it/
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Postby hoi.polloi on December 9th, 2009, 5:45 pm

Here is an organization which may reflect - at least on a surface level - the sorts of thoughts I sometimes find refreshing about our money dialogue. It is kind of an American "PRIMIT" (Project to reform the monetary system of Italy): http://www.monetary.org/

Instead of crying out "kill the Fed!" they talk about the possibility of doing away with centralized money altogether. Among many other possibilites. You start to get a pretty good picture of how BAD a deal we have right now.

From their 'about' page:


Monetary realities usually affect the citizen’s daily life far more than the Congress, President, or Supreme Court. AMI’s research shows that a main arena of human struggle has been over the monetary control of societies. This control is exercised through monetary theory - in obscure doctrines about the nature of money. If it had to be summarized in one sentence it is that by mis-defining the nature of money, special interests have often been able to control a society’s monetary system, and in turn, the society itself. Describing how this has been done historically, makes these concepts clear and vital and sweeps aside the mystification in which money has been purposely shrouded.



Yes, it is endorsed/pushed by a politician. Although Kucinich is from Ohio, he seems genuinely concerned about real issues, sometimes. I know nothing about Zarlenga, but wow the fellow can write - Although, I am waiting for the other shoe to drop, the concept of "cooperative individualism" seems to be flying now. I'd like to think that defeating criminalism indeed starts with people like us and forums where this kind of dialogue is allowed air.

http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org ... ience.html
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Postby SimonJCP on April 5th, 2010, 4:17 pm

The VicSims evidence establishes the role of the banking community in 9/11 for reasons both obvious and unobvious.

Obvious: Many banks were involved in providing "employment" for VicSims and other sim-characters/actors/perps such as Stanley Praimnath, an employee of Fuji Bank ("Lost 15 employees").

Unobvious: The powers-that-be have shown time and time again that they care absolutely nothing for human life. Therefore, one must wonder -- why go to all the trouble of evacuating the Towers and then demolishing them, creating over 2000 non-existent "people"? That question can be answered when one poses another question -- why was the New York Stock Exchange able to re-open days after the attack? Obviously, if the Twin Towers had really collapsed while full of real, flesh-and-blood financial wizards, there would have been a huge economic crisis, and Wall Street would have taken a huger-than-huge hit.

Furthermore -- remember the United-Airlines "insider trading" stories?

This story, promoted by the mainstream-media/mainstream-truth-movement, appears to be another red-herring designed to lead back to "airplanes" and "LIHOP" -- in other words, "insider trading" is a contrived angle designed/floated for "damage-control" purposes -- just like "Prior Warnings" and "NORAD Stand-Down".

The important fact here, however, is that a bank put it's name on the story, and was thus involved in floating it -- 3,150 put options were placed on United Airlines stock exactly one week before 9/11 (9/6/2001) -- this was four times the daily average (787.5) of put-options on UAL stock. Two days later (9/8/2001) put-options exploded to 25 times the daily average -- 19,687.5.

Now, which firm managed these UAL "put-options"? Deutsche Bank, which acquired Banker's Trust-A.B. Brown, a bank which Carl Levin accused of laundering drug money. Until 1997, the Chairman of A.B. Brown was A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, who, after the merge between A.B. Brown and Banker's Trust, became Vice Chairman. At the bank, he oversaw "private client relations". In 1998, Krongard, an ex-Marine who had studied at the US-Intelligence hotbed of Princeton University, joined the CIA and resigned in 2004. He was the third-in-command (Executive Director) at the CIA and was also linked to Blackwater.

So, a bank with CIA connections was used as the "heart" of the put-options story. Another connection between the attacks/simulation and the banking community.

This brings us to the involvement of foreign & domestic military/intelligence operations working within the financial world -- there is, indeed, quite a lot of evidence of it. One of Citigroup's directors, for example, was one of the Clinton-era CIA chiefs (John M. Deutch).

Another banking connection to the simulation/attacks is Standard Chartered Bank. Standard Chartered Bank provided an account to "Fayez Ahmed", one of the UA175 simmads. That same bank occupied four floors of Building 7.

Another bank that provided an account for simmads was SunTrust Banks, Inc. -- most of the "hijacker" simmads had Suntrust accounts. Whose behind Suntrust? Warren Buffet -- the "world's richest man" and a 9/11 perp.

The banking community appeared to be very much involved in the 9/11 simulation.
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Postby hoi.polloi on April 5th, 2010, 4:39 pm

Unobvious: The powers-that-be have shown time and time again that they care absolutely nothing for human life. Therefore, one must wonder -- why go to all the trouble of evacuating the Towers and then demolishing them, creating over 2000 non-existent "people"? That question can be answered when one poses another question -- why was the New York Stock Exchange able to re-open days after the attack? Obviously, if the Twin Towers had really collapsed while full of real, flesh-and-blood financial wizards, there would have been a huge economic crisis, and Wall Street would have taken a huger-than-huge hit.



Great points and great questions. Thanks for reminding us of the horrific truth behind those with such few scruples about taking life for kicks and bucks. Spooky but necessary to understand the kinds of personalities trying to snuff out our communities.

Even if these (bank) accounts are simulated, the company must know about it and therefore must be culpable for 9/11.

The fact that Suntrust would fess up to simmad (sim-villain or invented terrorist) accounts says something about how confident they are in their role as story-keeper. The villains of the fairy tale are the most important aspects of their psychological success against us.

I would classify this kind of fake bank account as an "anti-personnel weapon of mass destruction" by maritime law, but I guess I don't make the laws.
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Postby SimonJCP on April 5th, 2010, 7:16 pm

Even if these (bank) accounts are simulated, the company must know about it and therefore must be culpable for 9/11.



Exactly. Say you ran a country club -- what if a federal building got bombed and the military/newsmedia created a fictional terrorist, then claimed that he was a regular at your club? Wouldn't you deny it?

Every company/agency that uses itself to lend credence to the simulation ("He's real, he worked for me!") is part of the 9/11 crime ring.



The fact that Suntrust would fess up to simmad (sim-villain or invented terrorist) accounts says something about how confident they are in their role as story-keeper. The villains of the fairy tale are the most important aspects of their psychological success against us.



The Chairman/CEO of SunTrust is James M. Wells III. His background is documented on BusinessWeek, and contains this interesting fact:


He serves as a Director of Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

http://investing.businessweek.com/busin ... ker=STI:US



NNDB documents his GOP political connections:


Bush-Cheney '04
McCain-Palin Victory 2008

http://www.nndb.com/people/121/000169611/



Most of SunTrust's directors have GOP connections. Another one of their directors supported Rudy Giuliani in the 2008 presidential election:
http://www.nndb.com/people/300/000125922/

Some of these men may have government-hugging "patriots" who were convinced that the 9/11 simulation was "good for the country" and would "make liberals get behind Bush". If they were told that no one (or not many) were to die, then I can easily see them signing on.
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Postby hoi.polloi on April 5th, 2010, 7:54 pm

He serves as a Director of Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

http://investing.businessweek.com/busin ... ker=STI:US





Interesting how CNN is based in Atlanta as well. CNN produced the unmodified morphs that I point out in the vicsim list. If they are also responsible for the fabrication of the al-Qaeda terrorists' official appearances, we may have nailed one of the key cities of this "south'rn boyz" operation.

Can we find out if the "CNN Center" building is connected in any way to the corporation of the City of Atlanta?

For now, check out this virtual tour of the CNN Center: http://www.cnn.com/tour/atlanta/atl.tour.home.html

The pictures are interesting.
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Re: The Banks' War Against Us

Postby warriorhun on July 13th, 2011, 7:46 am

Dear All,

Probably all of you learned micro and macroeconomics in uni of high school. Fretting before exams, trying to remember the finer points if the keynesian doctrine, or the different ratios.
But all through learning that voodoo mumbo-jumbo, nobody was talking about the basics.
Let old warriorhun explain the monetary system and capitalism in two easy points. Needless to say, the result will be: we are all fucked over, or just simply fucked.

1. Monetary system.
First of all, you remember the assignatas, and later the gold standard. The money of old was IOU-notes (I owe you, like in the film Dumb and Dumber)-the bank owed you something of value if you had the note. The backing of the money was the value the bank collected. The bank owed you. Today's money is credit money. This is not IOU, this is "you owe us"-note, NOT backed by something the bank has, but by the GBP-so the concept is, somebody will give you something for it, hopefully.

The banks are private institutions with monopoly to create money-as you saw, without backing (GDP!) and to lend it to everybody with an interest. All money is credit money, every dollar carries an obligation to pay interest on it.

Lets say, the banks put into the economy USD 100 total. That is the total amount of money in the economy.
The interest of USD 100 is lets say 10%, USD 10.
Lets say, all this credit is paid back, all USD 100.
Now, there is USD 0 in the economy, zero, nada-but still, USD 10 should be paid as interest. Where will the USD 10 come from (nowhere), what will be given instead (the real estates, whatever, everything of value), who will own everything at the end (the banks).
Easy.

2. Capitalism
In the US, they say if you are poor it is your fault, you should have tried harder. We'll see.

Lets say, the banks put into the economy USD 100 total.
The participants of the ecomomy, company A, B, C, and D each gets USD 25, credit money so there is interest on it, lets say 20%. So all of them have to pay back USD 30. All are working hard, professionals. They set up their businesses from the loans, so the USD 100 starts circulating in the economy.
But they all have to earn 25 USD to pay back the credit, plus USD 5 to pay the interest, plus they havo to create profit!
Company A gets lucky, they manage to earn the USD 25, plus the USD 5, plus USD 20 profit, USD 50 in total.
Company B gets kind of lucky, earns the USD 25 plus the USD 5, USD 30 in total.
So, Company A and B has USD 80.
Company C and D are fucked, no matter how hard they try: they can compete for USD 20 only, which will not cover their obligations.
This is the so-called free competition of capitalism.
Easy.

Basic maths, and we are all fucked.
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